Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 44,207 OFFLINE Darth Banemein intronet Rep: 126 Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
Honestly, hate to be an ass or something...but if you can’t ignore people online yourself, how is one to deal with it in real life? Or anything like that?
On the programming end of it, I have no idea how it would work, but it sounds really complex to be honest...on the PM end, I could kind of see it, but public messages...to account for IP’s and user accounts and whatnot just for that specific person, which then has to be indexed differently for every person...when one could just ignore the person themselves and not reply...
As for dealing with a lot of reports, I REALLY doubt any of the mods have ever thought that as a problem, except for the spam-searcher thing that was implemented that reported a lot of non-rulebreaking posts.
I’ve seen it done before, but as to if it would work on a Phpbb forum, I don’t know exactly. It works on a Vbulletin forum, though.
It works, and the only thing that you would see is " This message hidden because [insert member name here] is on your ignore list. __________________ Zero Gravity Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 9,218 HijaccLovable Mod. Rep: 53 Cid wrote:
Count Bleck wrote:
Okay I got two suggestions:
Favorite topic list. Where users can basically subscribe to a topic and can come back to it whenever they want and don’t have to dig it up.
Ignore list. Self explanatory. Some times people flame other, with this it would save the trouble of having lots of reports to deal with when people can just ignore.
lulz. Aren’t those both... Well... My ideas? XD
Yep... __________________ “To sing when you hurt,and to sing when you cry,to sing when you live and to sing when you die”
 Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 52,873 ONLINE Tyreaus DreaconKnight of Vermilion Rep: 71 Cid wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
Honestly, hate to be an ass or something...but if you can’t ignore people online yourself, how is one to deal with it in real life? Or anything like that?
On the programming end of it, I have no idea how it would work, but it sounds really complex to be honest...on the PM end, I could kind of see it, but public messages...to account for IP’s and user accounts and whatnot just for that specific person, which then has to be indexed differently for every person...when one could just ignore the person themselves and not reply...
As for dealing with a lot of reports, I REALLY doubt any of the mods have ever thought that as a problem, except for the spam-searcher thing that was implemented that reported a lot of non-rulebreaking posts.
The way Bjarne has the site set up, it shouldn’t be that complicated. A code can auto recognize what posts to phase out depending on a person’s account number. Every member is designated a specific join number.
Admins at this point are able to appoint topic moderators by imputing that account number into a box.
This system can be similar to that. Click an ignore button that appears automatically on every post and it searches that post maker’s account number and automatically registers it to be hidden from another account number.
I do believe it’d end up taking Bjarne a few hours to encode it... But it doesn’t seem all that complicated.
It’s one thing if it’s from the site like that, and posts overall, but actually being able to change how another person views the site, and not just changing how the entire site is viewed, seems far more complex than just a few codes. That isn’t even counting guests, which are very numerous as well. The importance, to me, is especially questionable when there is always the natural option to simply not reply or read the person’s posts yourself, similar to how you were saying that PM’s are always available instead of private topics. __________________

Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 49,513 OFFLINE CidHOLY SHIT IT WAS LUPUS! Rep: 112 Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
Cid wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
Honestly, hate to be an ass or something...but if you can’t ignore people online yourself, how is one to deal with it in real life? Or anything like that?
On the programming end of it, I have no idea how it would work, but it sounds really complex to be honest...on the PM end, I could kind of see it, but public messages...to account for IP’s and user accounts and whatnot just for that specific person, which then has to be indexed differently for every person...when one could just ignore the person themselves and not reply...
As for dealing with a lot of reports, I REALLY doubt any of the mods have ever thought that as a problem, except for the spam-searcher thing that was implemented that reported a lot of non-rulebreaking posts.
The way Bjarne has the site set up, it shouldn’t be that complicated. A code can auto recognize what posts to phase out depending on a person’s account number. Every member is designated a specific join number.
Admins at this point are able to appoint topic moderators by imputing that account number into a box.
This system can be similar to that. Click an ignore button that appears automatically on every post and it searches that post maker’s account number and automatically registers it to be hidden from another account number.
I do believe it’d end up taking Bjarne a few hours to encode it... But it doesn’t seem all that complicated.
It’s one thing if it’s from the site like that, and posts overall, but actually being able to change how another person views the site, and not just changing how the entire site is viewed, seems far more complex than just a few codes. That isn’t even counting guests, which are very numerous as well. The importance, to me, is especially questionable when there is always the natural option to simply not reply or read the person’s posts yourself, similar to how you were saying that PM’s are always available instead of private topics.
Uh, ok. How many people simply ignore others? Not many, if any at all.
And no, it wouldn’t be hard. Like I said, account numbers would simply not show up. Bjarne allows us to do PMs to a specific person, right? Same idea except instead of sending a message it hides a message.
It’s... Pretty simple. __________________
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Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,237 OFFLINE KagrenacUBER 1337 Poster Rep: 27 Yep, very simple actually. Command lines are relatively easy to write. It’s just the testing that takes a while. __________________ I am, Forever Gone.
“I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds” Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 52,873 ONLINE Tyreaus DreaconKnight of Vermilion Rep: 71 Cid wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
Cid wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
Honestly, hate to be an ass or something...but if you can’t ignore people online yourself, how is one to deal with it in real life? Or anything like that?
On the programming end of it, I have no idea how it would work, but it sounds really complex to be honest...on the PM end, I could kind of see it, but public messages...to account for IP’s and user accounts and whatnot just for that specific person, which then has to be indexed differently for every person...when one could just ignore the person themselves and not reply...
As for dealing with a lot of reports, I REALLY doubt any of the mods have ever thought that as a problem, except for the spam-searcher thing that was implemented that reported a lot of non-rulebreaking posts.
The way Bjarne has the site set up, it shouldn’t be that complicated. A code can auto recognize what posts to phase out depending on a person’s account number. Every member is designated a specific join number.
Admins at this point are able to appoint topic moderators by imputing that account number into a box.
This system can be similar to that. Click an ignore button that appears automatically on every post and it searches that post maker’s account number and automatically registers it to be hidden from another account number.
I do believe it’d end up taking Bjarne a few hours to encode it... But it doesn’t seem all that complicated.
It’s one thing if it’s from the site like that, and posts overall, but actually being able to change how another person views the site, and not just changing how the entire site is viewed, seems far more complex than just a few codes. That isn’t even counting guests, which are very numerous as well. The importance, to me, is especially questionable when there is always the natural option to simply not reply or read the person’s posts yourself, similar to how you were saying that PM’s are always available instead of private topics.
Uh, ok. How many people simply ignore others? Not many, if any at all.
And no, it wouldn’t be hard. Like I said, account numbers would simply not show up. Bjarne allows us to do PMs to a specific person, right? Same idea except instead of sending a message it hides a message.
It’s... Pretty simple.
Because they don’t chose to. Ignoring people is not an impossible thing to do, especially online, and is much easier than having Bjarne try and figure out how to code that, which would likely be difficult regardless of how simple it may seem. I’ve worked with a tiny bit of programming and know how some of the simplest things can turn out to take the longest. It’s also on a public scale, and not private messages, which is localized between people.
But, honestly, if you can’t ignore people online, it’s perhaps something you should work on. (not just to you, to those that would apply to in general) __________________

You guys don’t even comprehend how difficult this would be to code, let alone the time it will take for Bjarne to do it. You think him putting things like a PM system took a while? You haven’t seen ANYTHING. This stuff is far and above all that pithy little crap. Knowing how much coding this takes and seeing some of the other functions, I’d say that for these two suggestions to be implemented, the sites coding would have to be doubled, if not tripled. Run times on MVC would hit the toilet in an instant, forget trying to log in to check out a few choice topics, you’ll end up spending most of your day on the site and hardly do a damn thing. The problem is that Bjarne is reaching the end of his server space and it’s just a matter of time before it fills up. What you guys are asking for would KILL the rest of his space almost instantly, so you’d end up losing the entire site for good. Unless of course Bjarner decided to buy up a little extra band-width, which would of course force him to start charging us to use the site in order to make up the extra cost. __________________
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Last edited 06 Apr 2009 07:43 pm by The King of MVC Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 44,207 OFFLINE Darth Banemein intronet Rep: 126 Either that or if he had decided to switch from Phpbb to Vbulletin. __________________ Zero Gravity Language: PHP
Client-side scripting: JavaScript (not much)
Mark up language: X/HTML (like 99% of all websites)
Mark up styling: CSS (like 90+% of all websites)
That’s how the site works. I can write in HTML, CSS and Javascript. With any of the three the sort of problems your asking him to fix are INSANELY difficult. Not on the base PHP level, but on the deeper levels. __________________
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Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,584 OFFLINE Nex CarnifexThinking bout' life Rep: 62 Bjarn has to get off his lazy ass and make these changes! Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 44,207 OFFLINE Darth Banemein intronet Rep: 126 If anything, Bjarne should have members to help him with this sort of thing, since he isn’t on all the time. Tech mods, or something such as that. __________________ Zero Gravity King Boo wrote:
Bjarn has to get off his lazy ass and make these changes!
The amount of coding needed to implement these changes, if he dedicated 2-3 hours a day every single day, would take half a year to a year at the very least. I highly doubt he will spend that much time, so don’t expect this shit from him. Now if he had a dev. team... __________________
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Ice Cube wrote:
If anything, Bjarne should have members to help him with this sort of thing, since he isn’t on all the time. Tech mods, or something such as that.
That would give somebody FAR too much power. Besides, any “tech mod” as you call it, would be a paid position that would require some seriously in-depth code writing knowledge.
On a side note: I’ve actually offered to work for Bjarne in this capacity, he doesn’t seem interested in working with others. __________________
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Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 9,218 HijaccLovable Mod. Rep: 53 derdev789 wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Bjarn has to get off his lazy ass and make these changes!
The amount of coding needed to implement these changes, if he dedicated 2-3 hours a day every single day, would take half a year to a year at the very least. I highly doubt he will spend that much time, so don’t expect this shit from him. Now if he had a dev. team...
It’s what some of us have been telling these nooblets for years.... __________________ “To sing when you hurt,and to sing when you cry,to sing when you live and to sing when you die”
 Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,584 OFFLINE Nex CarnifexThinking bout' life Rep: 62 I said the same thing. These changes arent worth Bjarns time. Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 44,207 OFFLINE Darth Banemein intronet Rep: 126 derdev789 wrote:
That would give somebody FAR too much power. Besides, any “tech mod” as you call it, would be a paid position that would require some seriously in-depth code writing knowledge.
On a side note: I’ve actually offered to work for Bjarne in this capacity, he doesn’t seem interested in working with others.
That and it would have to be someone trustworthy enough to handle the job itself. And if Bjarne isn’t interested in helping others, and isn’t going to do so, then expect this site to stay in the Ghost Town state that it seems to be treading somewhat. __________________ Zero Gravity They aren’t worth Bjarne’s time and they aren’t worth the money it would cost to make it somebody else’s time. I’m sorry kid’s, but this shit just aint gunna happen. __________________
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Ice Cube wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
That would give somebody FAR too much power. Besides, any “tech mod” as you call it, would be a paid position that would require some seriously in-depth code writing knowledge.
On a side note: I’ve actually offered to work for Bjarne in this capacity, he doesn’t seem interested in working with others.
That and it would have to be someone trustworthy enough to handle the job itself. And if Bjarne isn’t interested in helping others, and isn’t going to do so, then expect this site to stay in the Ghost Town state that it seems to be treading somewhat.
This site is doing perfectly fine the way it is and is FAR more popular than most other sites on the web. As I said, I have offered to work on the coding for this site, if he decides to take me up on this offer then MAYBE you lazy bastards will get your wishes granted. __________________
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Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 44,207 OFFLINE Darth Banemein intronet Rep: 126 derdev789 wrote:
Ice Cube wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
That would give somebody FAR too much power. Besides, any “tech mod” as you call it, would be a paid position that would require some seriously in-depth code writing knowledge.
On a side note: I’ve actually offered to work for Bjarne in this capacity, he doesn’t seem interested in working with others.
That and it would have to be someone trustworthy enough to handle the job itself. And if Bjarne isn’t interested in helping others, and isn’t going to do so, then expect this site to stay in the Ghost Town state that it seems to be treading somewhat.
This site is doing perfectly fine the way it is and is FAR more popular than most other sites on the web. As I said, I have offered to work on the coding for this site, if he decides to take me up on this offer then MAYBE you lazy bastards will get your wishes granted.
You’d be surprised, but I see your point. __________________ Zero Gravity Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,556 OFFLINE MarlyA Season in Hell ♥ Rep: 81 Cid wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Wait, WTF am I!
A noob
A scrub, more like. __________________ MvC Chat needz moar people
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