@ Maggot Face - If a spelling mistake the reason I lost your vote, then I don’t want it to begin with, it seems to shallow of a reason not to accept somebody. Not that this is a democracy or anything.
@ Chilly man - That’s the problem with the current titles. What we call Moderators are actually Subforum Moderators. What we call Administrators are actually Moderators and what we call a Webmaster is actually an Administrator. As for usurping, you obviously misunderstood... basically everything this thread is about. I don’t want to replace Bjarne, I want to help him run the site. Most website this size have multiple Administrators and this site desperately needs somebody else.
@ Maggot Face Again - Technically this could be considered a job application, considering the fact that Co-Administrators on other websites of this size are typically paid. So please excuse me if it looks like I’m self promoting, but that’s exactly what an application for a position is. Besides, there have been hundreds of similar threads like this over MVC’s history, it should be noted that I didn’t take the panzy way out and use an alt to self-promote. As far as anybody else with qualifications, over the time I’ve spent here and the many conversations I have had, there is nobody other than Nazi Spy who seems even remotely qualified. There are a great many people who can write in high level coding languages like HTML, but thus far I have found that only Nazi and myself can program in Java and CSS which is what the site uses..
Red_Calibur9 - Most people on this site have done far worse than I. From the top all the way down to the most infrequent of posters we are all the cause of some scandal on this infamous site, some were just lucky enough to get away with it without consequences. I happen to be brave enough to promote the fact that I screwed up in the past, most people seem to lack the balls to do that. “Let whomever has not sinned hurl the first stone."
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derdev789 wrote:
@ Maggot Face - If a spelling mistake the reason I lost your vote, then I don’t want it to begin with, it seems to shallow of a reason not to accept somebody. Not that this is a democracy or anything.
@ Maggot Face Again - Technically this could be considered a job application, considering the fact that Co-Administrators on other websites of this size are typically paid. So please excuse me if it looks like I’m self promoting, but that’s exactly what an application for a position is. Besides, there have been hundreds of similar threads like this over MVC’s history, it should be noted that I didn’t take the panzy way out and use an alt to self-promote. As far as anybody else with qualifications, over the time I’ve spent here and the many conversations I have had, there is nobody other than Nazi Spy who seems even remotely qualified. There are a great many people who can write in high level coding languages like HTML, but thus far I have found that only Nazi and myself can program in Java and CSS which is what the site uses..
The spelling mistake post was a joke.
And I have no problem with you apply for the job, but making a topic in the forum like this is more of a “Hey everyone! Look at me! I can do this, and you can’t!" thing to do. Just e-mail Bjarne your qualifications and leave it at that. No need to broadcast it to the world. He usually returns all his emails pretty promptly, as far as I’ve seen in the past. I also don’t doubt your qualification for the position. I personally have experience as a webmaster (yes, for real. Not a free hosted forum thing, but an actual site that I had to manage on my own), but I don’t have half the experience you do. My knowledge on anything outside of HTML is minimal, because I am only a high school student and haven’t had any reason to learn it. Everything I know is simply stuff I learned on my own. So I don’t doubt you’d be better for the position than me. Point is, this topic is basically rubbing it in people’s faces.
tl;dr
This topic is self-promoting, as an email to Bjarne would have sufficed.
derdev789 wrote:
@ Maggot Face - If a spelling mistake the reason I lost your vote, then I don’t want it to begin with, it seems to shallow of a reason not to accept somebody. Not that this is a democracy or anything.
@ Maggot Face Again - Technically this could be considered a job application, considering the fact that Co-Administrators on other websites of this size are typically paid. So please excuse me if it looks like I’m self promoting, but that’s exactly what an application for a position is. Besides, there have been hundreds of similar threads like this over MVC’s history, it should be noted that I didn’t take the panzy way out and use an alt to self-promote. As far as anybody else with qualifications, over the time I’ve spent here and the many conversations I have had, there is nobody other than Nazi Spy who seems even remotely qualified. There are a great many people who can write in high level coding languages like HTML, but thus far I have found that only Nazi and myself can program in Java and CSS which is what the site uses..
The spelling mistake post was a joke.
And I have no problem with you apply for the job, but making a topic in the forum like this is more of a “Hey everyone! Look at me! I can do this, and you can’t!" thing to do. Just e-mail Bjarne your qualifications and leave it at that. No need to broadcast it to the world. He usually returns all his emails pretty promptly, as far as I’ve seen in the past. I also don’t doubt your qualification for the position. I personally have experience as a webmaster (yes, for real. Not a free hosted forum thing, but an actual site that I had to manage on my own), but I don’t have half the experience you do. My knowledge on anything outside of HTML is minimal, because I am only a high school student and haven’t had any reason to learn it. Everything I know is simply stuff I learned on my own. So I don’t doubt you’d be better for the position than me. Point is, this topic is basically rubbing it in people’s faces.
tl;dr
This topic is self-promoting, as an email to Bjarne would have sufficed.
I talked to Tyreous about doing that, but he told me it was best to let the denizens of Moviecodec think they were part of the process. People on this site have a habit of automatically rejecting everything new, especially if they aren’t presented the idea in advance. I will be sending this in an email to Bjarne once enough people have read the thread and understand the situation.
It’s good to see that you can write in HTML. Do you like the language? Computer Science is a great major to go into and I’d definitely help you learn some of the basics if you want.
derdev789 wrote:
@ Maggot Face - If a spelling mistake the reason I lost your vote, then I don’t want it to begin with, it seems to shallow of a reason not to accept somebody. Not that this is a democracy or anything.
@ Maggot Face Again - Technically this could be considered a job application, considering the fact that Co-Administrators on other websites of this size are typically paid. So please excuse me if it looks like I’m self promoting, but that’s exactly what an application for a position is. Besides, there have been hundreds of similar threads like this over MVC’s history, it should be noted that I didn’t take the panzy way out and use an alt to self-promote. As far as anybody else with qualifications, over the time I’ve spent here and the many conversations I have had, there is nobody other than Nazi Spy who seems even remotely qualified. There are a great many people who can write in high level coding languages like HTML, but thus far I have found that only Nazi and myself can program in Java and CSS which is what the site uses..
The spelling mistake post was a joke.
And I have no problem with you apply for the job, but making a topic in the forum like this is more of a “Hey everyone! Look at me! I can do this, and you can’t!" thing to do. Just e-mail Bjarne your qualifications and leave it at that. No need to broadcast it to the world. He usually returns all his emails pretty promptly, as far as I’ve seen in the past. I also don’t doubt your qualification for the position. I personally have experience as a webmaster (yes, for real. Not a free hosted forum thing, but an actual site that I had to manage on my own), but I don’t have half the experience you do. My knowledge on anything outside of HTML is minimal, because I am only a high school student and haven’t had any reason to learn it. Everything I know is simply stuff I learned on my own. So I don’t doubt you’d be better for the position than me. Point is, this topic is basically rubbing it in people’s faces.
tl;dr
This topic is self-promoting, as an email to Bjarne would have sufficed.
I talked to Tyreous about doing that, but he told me it was best to let the denizens of Moviecodec think they were part of the process. People on this site have a habit of automatically rejecting everything new, especially if they aren’t presented the idea in advance. I will be sending this in an email to Bjarne once enough people have read the thread and understand the situation.
It’s good to see that you can write in HTML. Do you like the language? Computer Science is a great major to go into and I’d definitely help you learn some of the basics if you want.
I see. Good point. Sad thing is that a lot of people view becoming moderator as a popularity contest or a post count contest. I honestly don’t know Bjarne’s criterion for moderators, but it’s his site. Whoever he chooses to be mod, I’ll respect his choice. Same goes for an administrator position.
I do like HTML. I plan on learning PHP next, since I figure it’ll make my life easier with site construction. I almost was going to try learning python, but I realized that I don’t really have any reason to do it. =P
goldenraptor wrote:
Topics like these should be addressed directly to Bjarne.
EARLIER wrote:
People on this site have a habit of automatically rejecting everything new, especially if they aren’t presented the idea in advance. I will be sending this in an email to Bjarne once enough people have read the thread and understand the situation.
I already answered this concern.
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Derdev789 actively participated in spamming either this site or another site (on behalf of this site) a while back, one quality not admirable for a future 'webmaster.'
IIRC:
When Cid appointed Kev360 as a Moderator in 2007, he took his brother’s account and used it to permanently ban Skittles666. Another quality not admirable for a future 'webmaster.'
IIRC:
When Cid’s account was hacked, Derdev789 took full responsibility for what happened. Although it was shown to have been a lie, it was still a lie about a very serious matter. Once again, another quality not admirable for a future 'webmaster.'
IIRC:
Derdev789 has been banned on several occasions for harassing other members of the site, namely Skittles666. Yet another quality not admirable for a future 'webmaster.'
Final verdict is that Derdev789, whereas possessing the knowledge to do the job, has a very shaky background of rule breaking and underhanded things.
Derdev789 should not even be considered as a webmaster.
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
NLINLI: I have to ask, if you had to, who would you suggest instead?
I don’t think anybody on this forum is suited for the job. I believe I recall Hijacc mentioning another Administrator on A Lonely Life... So Bjarne has other people outside of Moviecodec. It’d be best if he brought in somebody like that, maybe somebody he knows IRL.
But nobody on this site that would do the title good is capable of the coding... It seems.
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
NLINLI: I have to ask, if you had to, who would you suggest instead?
I don’t think anybody on this forum is suited for the job. I believe I recall Hijacc mentioning another Administrator on A Lonely Life... So Bjarne has other people outside of Moviecodec. It’d be best if he brought in somebody like that, maybe somebody he knows IRL.
But nobody on this site that would do the title good is capable of the coding... It seems.
It’s what I was initially thinking as well. I had the idea once, while talking with Dev, about possibly having two “admins” working side-by-side, one to deal with administrator stuff and actual programming shit that Bjarne does behind the scenes, and one to worry about assigning mods, admins, the stuff Bjarne does ON the site.
But, after going through it, I realized how stupid it would be to implement lol.
I thought I remembered Bjarne saying something, at one time or another, about another admin and how he would be looking at someone he knows IRL.
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
I thought I remembered Bjarne saying something, at one time or another, about another admin and how he would be looking at someone he knows IRL.
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
NLINLI: I have to ask, if you had to, who would you suggest instead?
I don’t think anybody on this forum is suited for the job. I believe I recall Hijacc mentioning another Administrator on A Lonely Life... So Bjarne has other people outside of Moviecodec. It’d be best if he brought in somebody like that, maybe somebody he knows IRL.
But nobody on this site that would do the title good is capable of the coding... It seems.
It’s what I was initially thinking as well. I had the idea once, while talking with Dev, about possibly having two “admins” working side-by-side, one to deal with administrator stuff and actual programming shit that Bjarne does behind the scenes, and one to worry about assigning mods, admins, the stuff Bjarne does ON the site.
But, after going through it, I realized how stupid it would be to implement lol.
I thought I remembered Bjarne saying something, at one time or another, about another admin and how he would be looking at someone he knows IRL.
It’d be the safest bet. In all honesty I would trust Derdev as far as I can throw him, and I can barely toss a baseball.
But your idea does seem somewhat redundant... I don’t think it takes more then 5 minutes for Bjarne to make somebody an admin. All he has to do is look up their ID number and slightly alter the code to have it with the corresponding class of members that 'admins' are.
Bjarne just needs somebody who’s as gifted in coding as he is to help handle things when Bjarne is too busy to do so himself.
More like a part time Webmaster then a co-webmaster.
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
NLINLI: I have to ask, if you had to, who would you suggest instead?
I don’t think anybody on this forum is suited for the job. I believe I recall Hijacc mentioning another Administrator on A Lonely Life... So Bjarne has other people outside of Moviecodec. It’d be best if he brought in somebody like that, maybe somebody he knows IRL.
But nobody on this site that would do the title good is capable of the coding... It seems.
It’s what I was initially thinking as well. I had the idea once, while talking with Dev, about possibly having two “admins” working side-by-side, one to deal with administrator stuff and actual programming shit that Bjarne does behind the scenes, and one to worry about assigning mods, admins, the stuff Bjarne does ON the site.
But, after going through it, I realized how stupid it would be to implement lol.
I thought I remembered Bjarne saying something, at one time or another, about another admin and how he would be looking at someone he knows IRL.
It’d be the safest bet. In all honesty I would trust Derdev as far as I can throw him, and I can barely toss a baseball.
But your idea does seem somewhat redundant... I don’t think it takes more then 5 minutes for Bjarne to make somebody an admin. All he has to do is look up their ID number and slightly alter the code to have it with the corresponding class of members that 'admins' are.
Bjarne just needs somebody who’s as gifted in coding as he is to help handle things when Bjarne is too busy to do so himself.
More like a part time Webmaster then a co-webmaster.
I was thinking admin as in what Bjarne does outside of the core coding; assigning the moderators (Global, admins as they’re called now, and section mods), taking care of organizing the rules, general things to do with the social side of the site that we can “see” him take care of.
Maybe have someone else helping with the actual coding in the back to improve the site that way as well, that he knows in real life.
The first one would at least quell some people who say he can’t run the site, and it’d take off some pressure of having to be here so often, giving him time to deal with the programming end more and putting in improvements and whatnot.
derdev789 wrote:
@ Maggot Face - If a spelling mistake the reason I lost your vote, then I don’t want it to begin with, it seems to shallow of a reason not to accept somebody. Not that this is a democracy or anything.
@ Chilly man - That’s the problem with the current titles. What we call Moderators are actually Subforum Moderators. What we call Administrators are actually Moderators and what we call a Webmaster is actually an Administrator. As for usurping, you obviously misunderstood... basically everything this thread is about. I don’t want to replace Bjarne, I want to help him run the site. Most website this size have multiple Administrators and this site desperately needs somebody else.
@ Maggot Face Again - Technically this could be considered a job application, considering the fact that Co-Administrators on other websites of this size are typically paid. So please excuse me if it looks like I’m self promoting, but that’s exactly what an application for a position is. Besides, there have been hundreds of similar threads like this over MVC’s history, it should be noted that I didn’t take the panzy way out and use an alt to self-promote. As far as anybody else with qualifications, over the time I’ve spent here and the many conversations I have had, there is nobody other than Nazi Spy who seems even remotely qualified. There are a great many people who can write in high level coding languages like HTML, but thus far I have found that only Nazi and myself can program in Java and CSS which is what the site uses..
Red_Calibur9 - Most people on this site have done far worse than I. From the top all the way down to the most infrequent of posters we are all the cause of some scandal on this infamous site, some were just lucky enough to get away with it without consequences. I happen to be brave enough to promote the fact that I screwed up in the past, most people seem to lack the balls to do that. “Let whomever has not sinned hurl the first stone.“
Derdev, thank you for explaining the to me, I learn something new every day here. I agree with you about the need for two administrators, since you’re not plotting a coup. What I’d like to know is who owns this website?
Derdev789 actively participated in spamming either this site or another site (on behalf of this site) a while back, one quality not admirable for a future 'webmaster.'
IIRC:
When Cid appointed Kev360 as a Moderator in 2007, he took his brother’s account and used it to permanently ban Skittles666. Another quality not admirable for a future 'webmaster.'
IIRC:
When Cid’s account was hacked, Derdev789 took full responsibility for what happened. Although it was shown to have been a lie, it was still a lie about a very serious matter. Once again, another quality not admirable for a future 'webmaster.'
IIRC:
Derdev789 has been banned on several occasions for harassing other members of the site, namely Skittles666. Yet another quality not admirable for a future 'webmaster.'
Final verdict is that Derdev789, whereas possessing the knowledge to do the job, has a very shaky background of rule breaking and underhanded things.
Derdev789 should not even be considered as a webmaster.
Let me refute these statements one by one as they are almost all based on a lack of knowledge:
1. The spamming you are talking about occurred on MarioManiac’s forum on which I was a moderator. I was not spamming on the site, in fact I was the moderator responsible for deleting the spam that occurred there. It got so bad that the people started making photo-shopped images to try and scare me away from stopping there trolling, resulting ultimately in a picture of myself, with my arms folded across my chest and the word “Zucas Out” written in Italicized text (a picture which latter was used as a T-shirt advertising the site). So what you take as an attack preformed from me is not only wildly exaggerated, but completely devoid of fact.
2. Cid did not appoint anybody to be a moderator anywhere, it was a decision made by Bjarne under the suggestion of Cid along with several other moderators at the time. As far as the incident is concerned, that was addressed in not only the first, but many of my subsequent posts in this thread. I’m sorry if you don’t have the time to read my side of the story, but since I have given it so many times, there really is no reason for me to try to debate it with you as history dictates you won’t bother to read my response to you.
3. Bjarne and myself worked out that situation in order to give him additional time to figure out who hacked Cid’s account. It was actually a favor done by me in order to help return the site to a state of 'balance' so that Bjarne could do his work in peace without being bombarded by PM’s. I’m sorry that I couldn’t come clean about that, but obviously it would have invalidated the entire point of what I did if I told you guys why I was doing it. “No favor goes unpunished” as they say.
4. I have been banned a grand total of two times from this site. One was the half year ban that I received for #2 and the other was a one day ban that the moderator (I won’t give names) admitted was unjust which lasted a day. The thing about that ban is that I specifically PM’ed the moderator in question and requested a ban, not trusting myself to post on the site for a bit. There have been several instances where I purposely left the site for 2-3 days in order to stop myself from doing the very actions you are accusing me of. I know my limits and have learned that separating myself from the situation is the best way to deal with anger problems that I might have.
Learn your facts before you go around accusing people of things you have little to no knowledge about. I am actually a little insulted by your faulty analysis of myself and my actions.
Chilly man wrote:
Derdev, thank you for explaining the to me, I learn something new every day here. I agree with you about the need for two administrators, since you’re not plotting a coup. What I’d like to know is who owns this website?
Anything I can do to help. The person who owns the website is also our currently Webmaster Bjarne Lundgren. Typically the 'head' Webmaster is also the owner of a website but with bigger sites there are 'co' Webmasters who help the owner take care of coding and things of that nature.
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