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“Suspect in PlayStation 3 robbery killed Mon Dec 4

A teenager accused of robbing a student of two new Playstation 3s on the day the popular game consoles were introduced was shot to death by police sent to arrest him.

Peyton Strickland, 18, was killed Friday at a house he shared with three roommates, New Hanover County Sheriff Sid Causey said.

“If this boy would’ve come to the door, opened the door, we probably wouldn’t be talking," the sheriff said Sunday.

Roommate Mike Rhoton said Strickland was unarmed, but may have been holding a video game controller when he went to the door as it was bashed in by officers.

Authorities promised Monday to fully investigate the fatal shooting. “No one is above the law and no one is beneath its protection," District Attorney Ben David said. He declined to discuss details of the case.

The State Bureau of Investigation is examining the case and three deputies on the team were placed on paid leave, normal practice whenever officers fire their weapons, Causey said.

Arrest warrants alleged that Strickland, a student at Cape Fear Community College, and a University of North Carolina-Wilmington student stole two PlayStation units from another UNC-Wilmington student that day.

The sheriff said the robbery victim had waited three days in line to buy two Playstation 3 units for $641 each at a Wal-Mart. He was unloading the units at his campus apartment when one man beat him to the ground while another took the PlayStations, Causey said.

The sheriff said Strickland was shot by members of a a special police unit who went to help university officers serve warrants. He would not say why the special team was assisting.

Strickland’s dog, a German shepherd, also was shot to death.

The second man named in the warrants was arrested at another address and was released on bail on Saturday, authorities said.

The nationwide introduction of the Sony game system on Nov. 17 was marked by rowdy crowds and store stampedes. One buyer waiting in line at a Connecticut store was shot by armed robbers."

-Maybe it is just me but death for stealing a video game console seems a bit extreme to me... even if it was an expensive one.... as usual the courts are left out of this... no right to a fair trial in this country anymore it seems... besides when did the word SUSPECT become equivalent with GUILTY without a jury or trial even?


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i just read about that on yahoo


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that’s messed up.


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yeah, well killing the dog too was just mean....

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What fit he dog was hostile, if it was he can shoot it under law.

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That is fucked up. i’m sure there is more to the story but still!


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This is kind of pathetic, it just goes to show what kind of people we have in law enforcement these days.


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Police are people, they do things they shouldn’t sometimes.

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Yeah, but shooting a person because they mistook a PS3 controller for a gun?


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Cid wrote: Yeah, but shooting a person because they mistook a PS3 controller for a gun?



Come on people lets look at it through the police' eyes

These are not my words, but from another on this subject

“As someone in Law Enforcement myself, let me assure you that I’ve never met one person in my life that ever wants to shoot someone. It’s the hardest thing you’d ever have to do.

But when you’re serving a warrant on someone that’s wanted for armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon, etc. you’ve already got an air of caution above your head. The guy is a felon and you never know what they’ll do — and if your intelligence shows hes probably got guns in the house, you have to worry.

That article is kind of lame since it gives absolutely no info or reasons surrounding the incident, but I have a feeling there is a lot more to it than you’d think.


And so you know, if a dog comes at an officer — and I don’t know why people seem to laugh at the thought of it being a german shepherd, but keep in mind that is what all of our K9 dogs are, and they’re vicious fuckers — you shoot it. You don’t wait for it to latch onto your leg and blow some arteries open, you just drop it there. It’s terrible and no one wants to have to do it, but you can’t exactly tell a dog what to do and expect it to listen.“

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You’re supposed to keep your gun pointed at the suspect, and if they show signs of hostility you can use force, a police officer is not supposed to assume that something that is in someone’s hand is a gun and shoot them there.

Now if the guy actually had a gun and not a controller I wouldn’t disagree with it. But it was a controller, and even if the guy tried to physically assault the officer it’s no reason to kill him.

maybe the entire story isn’t there, but unless the entire story involves the suspect having a deadly weapon then it still isn’t right.


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NEREVAR117 wrote: Police are people, they do things they shouldn’t sometimes.



yea like puting 52 bullets in an unarmed man or beating a black person for drinking and driveing is all a accident


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Cid wrote: You’re supposed to keep your gun pointed at the suspect, and if they show signs of hostility you can use force, a police officer is not supposed to assume that something that is in someone’s hand is a gun and shoot them there.

Now if the guy actually had a gun and not a controller I wouldn’t disagree with it. But it was a controller, and even if the guy tried to physically assault the officer it’s no reason to kill him.

maybe the entire story isn’t there, but unless the entire story involves the suspect having a deadly weapon then it still isn’t right.



Not my words, but again it’s about the subject

“It sounds stupid to everyone I’m sure, but you have to think about it. Most warrants are served by surrounding the residence and using a PA to announce for them to come out... at least, they should be. Part of this announcement is explaining to have nothing in your hands.

Dude comes out with a black thing in his hand, that is of a very similar size to a handgun ... a guy wanted for multiple felony charges ... after you asked him to come out with nothing in his hands?

You don’t get two chances as a cop. So you hesitate, you sit there examining this black object trying to figure out what it is, and then you realize — yes, it’s a gun, because he just shot you in the neck with it.

No chances there. Everyone can sit here analyzing police work all day, but I’d love to see most of you sit out there with the uniform on. Be the target, be the one that all the crooks want to harm and kill because they don’t want to get back in jail. Get shot at a few times, and then have a felon come out when he knows hes being served a warrant with a nice black thing in his hand — and see if you want to sit around and wait to find out what it is. See if you’d like to take that chance and maybe never come home to see your kids again because you got shot in the face.

Cops don’t get two chances to make decisions, they get a split second to do what needs to be done to save their own lives, that comes first and foremost. Same shit as people that “reach into their waistband or jacket” or whatever and get shot and end up having nothing, and everyone freaks out — are you going to sit there and wait to see what he pulls out? No.

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Cid wrote: You’re supposed to keep your gun pointed at the suspect, and if they show signs of hostility you can use force, a police officer is not supposed to assume that something that is in someone’s hand is a gun and shoot them there.


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Cid wrote:

Cid wrote: You’re supposed to keep your gun pointed at the suspect, and if they show signs of hostility you can use force, a police officer is not supposed to assume that something that is in someone’s hand is a gun and shoot them there.



Dude comes out with a black thing in his hand, that is of a very similar size to a handgun ... a guy wanted for multiple felony charges ... after you asked him to come out with nothing in his hands?

You don’t get two chances as a cop. So you hesitate, you sit there examining this black object trying to figure out what it is, and then you realize — yes, it’s a gun, because he just shot you in the neck with it.

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If you keep your gun aimed at the suspect it give you enough time to verify what that object is. Not to mention telling the person to drop the item and put his hands up, I’ll bet the guy didn’t even get a chance to prove it wasn’t a gun. He probably raised his hand a bit and got shot, I understand that an officer has to protect themselves but they also need not be trigger happy with a gun.


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Indeed.

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I’m bouncing back between being an idiot in Off Topic to being serious here. It’s not working that well so I’m gone for today.


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Cid wrote: [b]If you keep your gun aimed at the suspect it give you enough time to verify what that object is[b/]. Not to mention telling the person to drop the item and put his hands up, I’ll bet the guy didn’t even get a chance to prove it wasn’t a gun. He probably raised his hand a bit and got shot, I understand that an officer has to protect themselves but they also need not be trigger happy with a gun.



If they asked him to have nothing in his hands why would they take that chance? This guy assulted someone over the head with a blunt object. They knew he was dangerous. But like you said, not all the information has been released.

Anways, I was just really responding to what you said here. Felt I had to put in both views.

This is kind of pathetic, it just goes to show what kind of people we have in law enforcement these days.

EDIT: Wow not talking about video games......feels weird :P

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