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05 May 2009 03:15 am
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Probably wouldn’t guess it, but it’s Shuckle.

1. Have someone on your team use trick room (slower pokemon attacks first).
2. As soon as the other person sends out a SP Atk Sweeper, switch in Shuckle. (Or if your already against a SP Atk sweeper, Shuckle can use trick room)
3. Then have Shuckle use power trick (switches Atk and Def, NOT SP Atk/Def)
4. Kill the SP Atk sweeper with your now 612 attack (while still having 612 SP Def.) Shuckle.
5. Dominate for as long as you can with trick room, as at this point you can one hit Blissey no problem with EQ/Rock Edge/any attack thats 80 damage or up, but note that if you get hit by one Physical attack your finished, as his defense is now about 80.

Oh, and for this I’d recommend the standard 252 Def. EV’s, 252 SP Def. Ev’s, and 4 HP EV’s, and relaxed nature works really well with this combo (Speed down and Defense up).

Note: I saw it mentioned on armorgames that Garchomp (who has a max attack of 394) with one swords dance has an attack of 788, beating Shuckle. This is ridiculously false, thats a 394 boost to attack * and would mean that me using swords dance on a level 5 of any kind would give it an attack that would stomp a Level 50 Rypherior who was maxed for his level. Just... no.

One more thing lol. For those who would argue that this is not the most efficient way to achieve an attack of 600 or up, I’d like to point out that the highest starting attack of a lvl 99 pokemon with an attack boosting nature and maxed EV’s is 504, being Attack Mode Deoxys. This Shuckle combo takes two assist moves, while retaining a SP Def. Of 612, making it a special wall to the max and an absolute rape offender, while an Attack Mode Deoxys would need three Swords Dances to reach that level, and then only have a SP Def. of around 300 if I’m not mistaken. And in addition to all of this, Shuckle is guaranteed to go first with trick room, having a SPD of 80 or lower if you have a Relaxed nature and no EV’s, making it the slowest of any pokemon. Deoxys still has a speed of around 300, so trick room wouldn’t benefit it and it’s not nearly fast enough to outclass everything.

* I have seen sites that say it increases your attack by it’s original value, such as http://www.math.miami.edu/~jam/azure/attacks/s/swords_dance.html, this is false as far as the tests I’ve done go, my attack did nowhere near double the damage after used it with Rypherior, and Bulbapedia confirms what I believed here
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Swords_Dance_(move).


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Last edited 05 May 2009 04:04 am by Trogdor_the_Burninator

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07 Aug 2009 08:18 am
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Note: I saw it mentioned on armorgames that Garchomp (who has a max attack of 394) with one swords dance has an attack of 788, beating Shuckle. This is ridiculously false,

trogdor the burninator, this is true, swords dance gives a two stat stage attack increase, one stat stage increase equals a 50% bonus to a stat, basically adding half the original stat onto the stat, so swords dance basically doubles the user' attack stat, a snorlax can raise it’s attack stat from 202(lowest for snorlax) to 808 (enough to kill most things) using “belly drum” , a 6 stat stage increase, but it loses half of it’s hp

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I’m sure 99% of the Pokemon Gaming community knows this.

Why did you have sudden urge to post it on MvC where hardly anyone cares about Pokemon?


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07 Aug 2009 09:55 am
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Pandora wrote: I’m sure 99% of the Pokemon Gaming community knows this.

Why did you have sudden urge to post it on MvC where hardly anyone cares about Pokemon?



True.


And it’s the easiest thing to poke a hole in since you can see it coming a mile away.

Also: trogdor, you have no idea what you’re talking about with Swords Dance. Swords dance raises your attack stat by two stages (ie: doubles it). So a Garchomp using swords dance with a maxed out attack stat WOULD have an attack of 788. It doesn’t just add x points to your stat, it multiplies it (one stage is x1.5, two is x2, etc etc).

Not to mention anyone who uses Belly Drum maxes out their attack completely. So a Snorlax with max attack (350) using belly drum (x4) would give you an attack stat of 1400, far more than Shuckle, and his high HP makes the cut almost a moot point.

tl;dr: trogor you have no idea what you are talking about

/nerd.

edit: didn’t even notice that this was from may, or that the guest pretty much said everything I did verbatim. OH WELL.


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