Tactical nukes...as of this post i have 7, going for 10 for the spinning nuke emble(not sure about the other one’s requirements...yet)
Another MVC member , who i didn’t see till aftr i called in one of 2 today, saw one of them.
This topic is for advice for getting Nukes.
My Advice-
Generally Nukes are gotten by killstreaks...not direct kills.
Few people can pull off those types of direct kills, as you’re killng the same people over and over, and they will adapt and do whatever it takes to counter you
Recommended killstreaks..
>_>
THere are MANY ways to do it, but it seems the most common is , harrer(OR predator missile) , Chopper gunner (OR AC 130) , then the Nuke
Me? I tend to use the Harrier and Chopper gunner route..
So, if you look, you’ll see you mainly only have to get 7, and THEN find somewhere to hide, call your killstreaks, and MAYBE get a few more kills...
My analysis? Predator missile has huge potential....but in places like skidrow, its iffy...if you get a good group ..it’ll put you to your next one fast..
Harrier...the airstrike part of it...is helpful...but seems to rarely get kills
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After that, it’ll gun for a little, and grab you some kills...it’s not to hard for it to grab the kills you need..
harrier requires 7 kills, so its harder to get, but , can generally do better than predatr (unless predator gets a GOOD shot in) and the harrier is fire and forget.
Now, choppers , ..they can do it too
precision airstrike? It could, but i hear rumors about the new precision airstrike
Now the PAVELOW...anther chopper, right? Wrong.
I’ve heard a rumor of a glitch
see, if you throw a care package, and get a predator, it will NOT add on to your killstreak. Which means you cannot use the care package to get a predtor or airstrike to get “enough kills” for a chopper gunner.
It’ll give you kills, but they wont add to your streak for your next one
Now, the glitch is that the PAVELOW, glitches and ill not count if earned the normal way, but that care packages and emergency airdrops that give you a pavelow, well, that pavelow will COUNT.
if not already fixed in the 1.06 patch, i bet it will be soon
ANYWAY, ...that covers pavelows..
higher stuff...is really harder to get in ONE life..as a first streak
Stealth bombers? THy’re MY favorite( when everyone on the enemy team OR friendly team sees this, they RUN and GET AWAY no matter what, (they’ll even stop fighting and RUN like HECK)..because once you see it, you know you’re a dead man almost gauranteed unless you’re awfully lucky..
but...it doesndrops in a straight like..on some maps its allright.
Now, thats awfully high for a first killstreak and i dont do it. Next up, your 2nd
CHOPPER GUNNRS
and AC 130
THe AC — well, i havent used it alot, but it’s got 3 guns, has to reload, has the 105 mm cannon that is good at spawnkilling
...some people make the mistake of not switching away from the 105..
and the Chopper gunner...is it just me or did the chopper gunner have it’s abilitity to shoot thru walls nrfed?
chopper gunner lass longer...has ONE flare...after that, some rockets, it can take a hit...after that, it’s GONE
AC 130- bullets WILL NOT reach it. 2 sets of flares....and all the while the gunner is zooming in with his thermal on you ready to give you a 105 shell that makes you have nightmares of the old j(now patched)javelin glitch, LOL
...it depends on how you use it..chopper gunner hs an easier time getting people, doesnt reload, and gasp, what can do that few others realize, is SHOOT, enemies that have cold blooded on. Yes, if i see them, i cna hit them.
Now , the AC has the same factors.
Oh, while using either, DO NOT shoot yourself. Yes ,you can kill yourself using these.
i’ve seen the most skileld AC 130 playrs tear up the battlefield with over 30 kills( I dont understand how they do it with the shrt amount of time, ) , but on average chopper gunners get more kills....
what you need is to get to 25....thats 14 from 11...and if your harrier or a chopper is still in the air, it’ll nab you hopefully a few more
Yes, if enemies have launchers, that first streak is dead the water. You may need to get one or two more kills...or more... if theyshoot your stuff down.
For the later streaks, you can try to shoot enemies before they attempt to shoot you down, but..generally your bst bet is simply racking up the most kills...besides..while the rocket men try to take you down, you’ll be taking out the others who keep respawning and ignoring you, , or trying to shoot your AC down with their primary gun(can’t happen)..
:O
Next, to be covered: weapons, getting that initial killstreak ON the ground.
OOps, sorry about taking your resrved spot.
Well, the closest I got of a killstreak was a 14 streak, WITHOUT chopper gunner OR harriers.
Snipin in that place...with tha chopper n stuff.
I actually went to the MIDDLE and sniped people FROM THE GROUND.
Oddly, no one shot me.
I got beaten down by a enemy harrier, ironically.
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Heh, I guess even Kal-El participated on the Cold War.
I find that that when I feel like going for a nuke it’s best to use Pavelow (it has always counted towards my kill streaks that’s the first time I heard of that glitch) becasue it takes two rockets so it lasts longer then a harrier or attack chopper then that always gets me to Chopper gunner and that almost always gets me to “its all over” and the class I use to pull this off is
Primary: ACR with either Holographic sight or noob tube if I’m in the mood.
Secondary: Akimbo models (yes I’m a whore and I don’t care who knows=)
Equipment: Claymore I always get a kill from it sometimes two or even more (I’m a master claymore setter=)
Perk1: Slight of hand pro for the faster aiming more then the faster reload
Perk2: Stopping power pro (its a must for the ACR)
Perk3: Ninja pro (a must for any class IMO)
I have gotten all 13 of my nukes with this class as long as I can get my Pavelow its usually smooth sailing from there.
Ive only called in 2 nukes, every time i get going on a decent streak, the other team starts camping like fucking crazy and i die.
I absolutely despise camping, its not a tactic, it requires zero skill to sit in a dark corner and wait for someone who isnt a complete noob to walk through a doorway, thats the main reason why i like Halo over CoD, in Halo if you try to camp, you get fucking raped, in CoD you get rewarded with kill streaks.
im yet to see someone call in a nuke legit , the only ppl ive had the misfortune to get nuked by are hackers . closest ive come is a 23 kill streak sniping on wasteland
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Tactical nukes...as of this post i have 7, going for 10 for the spinning nuke emble(not sure about the other one’s requirements...yet)
Another MVC member , who i didn’t see till aftr i called in one of 2 today, saw one of them.
This topic is for advice for getting Nukes.
My Advice-
Generally Nukes are gotten by killstreaks...not direct kills.
Few people can pull off those types of direct kills, as you’re killng the same people over and over, and they will adapt and do whatever it takes to counter you
Recommended killstreaks..
>_>
THere are MANY ways to do it, but it seems the most common is , harrer(OR predator missile) , Chopper gunner (OR AC 130) , then the Nuke
Me? I tend to use the Harrier and Chopper gunner route..
So, if you look, you’ll see you mainly only have to get 7, and THEN find somewhere to hide, call your killstreaks, and MAYBE get a few more kills...
My analysis? Predator missile has huge potential....but in places like skidrow, its iffy...if you get a good group ..it’ll put you to your next one fast..
Harrier...the airstrike part of it...is helpful...but seems to rarely get kills
>
After that, it’ll gun for a little, and grab you some kills...it’s not to hard for it to grab the kills you need..
harrier requires 7 kills, so its harder to get, but , can generally do better than predatr (unless predator gets a GOOD shot in) and the harrier is fire and forget.
Now, choppers , ..they can do it too
precision airstrike? It could, but i hear rumors about the new precision airstrike
Now the PAVELOW...anther chopper, right? Wrong.
I’ve heard a rumor of a glitch
see, if you throw a care package, and get a predator, it will NOT add on to your killstreak. Which means you cannot use the care package to get a predtor or airstrike to get “enough kills” for a chopper gunner.
It’ll give you kills, but they wont add to your streak for your next one
Now, the glitch is that the PAVELOW, glitches and ill not count if earned the normal way, but that care packages and emergency airdrops that give you a pavelow, well, that pavelow will COUNT.
if not already fixed in the 1.06 patch, i bet it will be soon
ANYWAY, ...that covers pavelows..
higher stuff...is really harder to get in ONE life..as a first streak
Stealth bombers? THy’re MY favorite( when everyone on the enemy team OR friendly team sees this, they RUN and GET AWAY no matter what, (they’ll even stop fighting and RUN like HECK)..because once you see it, you know you’re a dead man almost gauranteed unless you’re awfully lucky..
but...it doesndrops in a straight like..on some maps its allright.
Now, thats awfully high for a first killstreak and i dont do it. Next up, your 2nd
CHOPPER GUNNRS
and AC 130
THe AC — well, i havent used it alot, but it’s got 3 guns, has to reload, has the 105 mm cannon that is good at spawnkilling
...some people make the mistake of not switching away from the 105..
and the Chopper gunner...is it just me or did the chopper gunner have it’s abilitity to shoot thru walls nrfed?
chopper gunner lass longer...has ONE flare...after that, some rockets, it can take a hit...after that, it’s GONE
AC 130- bullets WILL NOT reach it. 2 sets of flares....and all the while the gunner is zooming in with his thermal on you ready to give you a 105 shell that makes you have nightmares of the old j(now patched)javelin glitch, LOL
...it depends on how you use it..chopper gunner hs an easier time getting people, doesnt reload, and gasp, what can do that few others realize, is SHOOT, enemies that have cold blooded on. Yes, if i see them, i cna hit them.
Now , the AC has the same factors.
Oh, while using either, DO NOT shoot yourself. Yes ,you can kill yourself using these.
i’ve seen the most skileld AC 130 playrs tear up the battlefield with over 30 kills( I dont understand how they do it with the shrt amount of time, ) , but on average chopper gunners get more kills....
what you need is to get to 25....thats 14 from 11...and if your harrier or a chopper is still in the air, it’ll nab you hopefully a few more
Yes, if enemies have launchers, that first streak is dead the water. You may need to get one or two more kills...or more... if theyshoot your stuff down.
For the later streaks, you can try to shoot enemies before they attempt to shoot you down, but..generally your bst bet is simply racking up the most kills...besides..while the rocket men try to take you down, you’ll be taking out the others who keep respawning and ignoring you, , or trying to shoot your AC down with their primary gun(can’t happen)..
:O
Next, to be covered: weapons, getting that initial killstreak ON the ground.
Feel free to add your own experience.
stfu.
You haven\t even gotten 10 nukes and you are trying to give advice?
it clearly says at the bottom of the screen “kill streaks acquired from care package or emergency airdrop do not go to word to kills streaks”
the best combination is;
9/pavelow
11/chopper gunner
25/nuke
once you get a pavelow, you have around 15 kills (pavelow is awesome) and then you can call in your chopper gunner (which can easily get 10 kills) then you are set for the nuke.
it clearly says at the bottom of the screen “kill streaks acquired from care package or emergency airdrop do not go to word to kills streaks”
the best combination is;
9/pavelow
11/chopper gunner
25/nuke
once you get a pavelow, you have around 15 kills (pavelow is awesome) and then you can call in your chopper gunner (which can easily get 10 kills) then you are set for the nuke.
Did you do the research?
The Pave Low has some strange behavior when adding to existing kills streaks. The logic appears to be as follows:
If the user earns a Pave Low and the Pave Low gets the next kill then Pave Low’s kills will NOT be added to the current kill streak. However, if the user gets a kill before the Pave Low, the Pave Low’s kills will continue the killstreak.
Kills from Pave Lows earned from Care Packages will continue the current kill streak. This appears to be a bug, as Care Packages are not supposed to add to kill streaks.
Numerous IW forums mentons
numerous modernwarfare24/7 forum mentions
More forum mentions from gametrailers to gamespot to neoseeker — -i could go on. Google Pave low glitch and tada.
Solid VIDEO showings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd6_TjLYFzk
stfu.
You haven\t even gotten 10 nukes and you are trying to give advice?
I can gaurantee you that i can give many methods( i haven’t contributed everything i’m planning to add, to this guide yet), that DO have hig hodds of netting you an initial killstreak.
Calling in 3 more nukes gives you some sort of benchmark experience? When there are people who get nukes from boosting?
Odds are those 3 more nukes don’t mean you are better.
Factors such as time , odds, match setup, and sometimes luck in general DO negate your assumption. Or at least, provide a highly effective counter that’s more likely than not.
I would advise you to take note of the Pave Low glitch, and to not discredit a decent entry into a place for advice on acquiring nukes.
Seeing as Nukes are more or less centered around getting those killstreaks without dying, and many different strategies result in that, what angle are you coming from?
When I achive 10 nukes, it’ll be using the same general ideas/ strategies that many others use, and that I have used to net high killstreaks. Bank on it.
And for a few people, such as me-, I prefer to attempt helping out those who haven’t had the fortune of increasing their odds for getting one. Not everyone has the same learning/luck curve, and good solid advice is hard to come by.
here’s my protip. shoot at the cyberdemon until he dies. wait. wrong game.
shoot at the bad guys until they die. do it 25 times without dying. here’s the hard part. press the dpad left.
oh so your one of those pray you never get into a match with me when I’m in the mood for nuking because the second I hear any complaints then that just fuels me to want to keep on nuking =]
Lol that reminds me of these two matches one where my teammates hated me and the other where the other team wanted to kill me they where so mad but my teammates loved me for it
1st one we were rocking and none of us had any deaths and half of my team were going for the ten kills no deaths thing and they all had like 8 or 9 when I threw down the nuke and then they all went crazy trying to get the last couple of kills before the nuke hit and either couldn’t find anyone or got killed because they rushed they were all so pissed at me it was hilarious=]
2nd one we were losing bad it was 3400 to 7100 they only needed 4 more kills and then bam Nuke time they were yelling at me calling me names saying why couldn’t I just take the loss lol it was soooo funny
The pave low glitches only when either you get a kill without a kill streak right after your 9th kill or if you use a kill streak before the pave low (predator missile).
Sorry, but some of you don’t understand that the dude is only trying to help you get along in a game when the skill level rises as you prestige.
I, personally think that this was well thought out and has helped quite a few people. Although some of the things I would do differently, but either way I am new and to be honest I play properly and I don’t act like some of these “MLG Lone Wolf” assholes that think they are completely “LEET”.
In my eyes a tactical approach where one man helps the other often helps. I am sick and tired of matches like domination where I save a guys ass and he looks at this guy who kills me from behind and kills him afterwards. After I saved his ass.
Or if you steal my care package or even try after I help you or I do nothing at all. But you steal my kill.
I also hate when I run in on domination and the likes and capture it or just about and then you watch me die and take the credit for my kill and my capture. Although I do admit that it will help the team but sometimes it is annoying.
What else is annoying is when I cover you but you don’t cover me. Or when in demolition I, a sniper run andplant a bomb but you camp in a building when it is going off or don’t attack when attacking but when defending you attack, what the hell!
All bitching aside, some tactics help when going after a nuke but when trying to get it don’t be an ass please!!!....
Anh if I’m playing with randies I’ll do what I can but I wont go out of my way like in that one situation you described If i saw you about to get shot while capping yea I’ll save you but if I’m already in a fight then I could care less.
Also I don’t steal care packages, but if you died and I come across it or I come across you to late to save you then yeah I’m going to take it.
I have only nuked a game once. It was with Model 1887 in the Terminal, I just camped the shit out of everyone bcuz I wanted to nuke at least ONCE for a change.
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Heh, I guess even Kal-El participated on the Cold War.
played ovr 12 hours today, lol. I dont do that often at all
ALmost got a nuke way earlier, got 25 kills with akimbo 1887s on favela, but then the GAME TIMED OUT
before i could call it...
:/
That coudl have also happened if i had called it, so..thats the disdvantage...it was the host leaving...(no way he knew i had it)
finally at 4 a.m. ( i was really bored and still playing lol) , i went into what i determined would be my last match,
was derail domination.
I have MOST of my classes one man armies(minus two 1887 classes,) , and switched between a stealthed vector and a barett with thermal..
i SHOULD have , before i called n my harrier, switched to my danger close pro class..
anyway, i pulled it off in the final minute
Now, strangely, i did NOT fill the requirement where you have to call in a nuke when your team is losing. enemies had like 156, we were about 87....strange
most of the times before that final battle, I wuld temporarily hang out at places..prob is, once you get a lot of kills ,you;re in a HIGH risk area
oh, i did go 24 on highrise...got to the top of the building and started sniping and alternating to stealted rifles..i dont recall ever getting a nuke up there..maybe once..
anyway, after my harrier, the WHOLE other team started chucking semtexes and flashes up onto the roof trying at ALL costs to kill me...they got me at 24 kills....then they immediate lost after..but they were determined to get a lone sniper who kpt dissapearing off their radar (when i USED OMA to hide from enemykillstreaks)..despite the rest of my team racking up kills.
somethign that is important..MAKE sure you either get your final kill in a low risk area, or do whatever it takes to get somewhere CLEAR..
random tips I’ll add for now:
If on afghan..the poppy fields/ area designated as B in domination...the fields are the best place to hide...
now, if your team does not defend B, you are screwed and won' get too much of any streaks going if sniping or rushing from there..
but, something i do, is plant T.I. in the field, then rush whoever is invading..if they kill me, i spawn, go prone, plant T.I, then suddenly ,the bad guys see a enemy who appars shooing them out of nowhere, making them bash the game’s “spawns” when it’s me. XD
i’m drifting off topic. So anyway, the field is a place you’ll be invisible when calling in killstreaks...
Some maps are hard to even hide in...underpass..there’s one place i’ve noticd to go to hide or retreat after rushing.. first off, if yu know underpass, there’s a bridge...with a canal under it....that bridge? if you are on underpass, and go from the side the bridge is on, go straight across the bridge, keep ging forwards till you get past the pillars, to the end of the map ,then , still facing that wall, turn left- you’ll come across where I find most killstreakers can find respite.
My thoughts regarding rushing..most of the time, you need to be flanking the enemies...dont go straight at them unless you beat them to a good spot, or are with or behind buddies. once you net some kills, then you want to pull back.
Pay attention to your RADAR, note where enemies are..if you have to , push start and take a 2 second look at the minimap to try to note the flow of enemies..stay with the flow of your team...or if stealthed..stay off of main paths.
Sniping..simply get a good visible spot, and make sure to check areas OFTEN for counter snipers. Once they get a good sightline on you, you’re in trouble if you arent' already zoomed in on them shooting. (example: If i am at B on Afghan, and in the bunker closest to that sniping , I have to always quickly, check 3 reas. the area around A, then the CAVE, then the high cliff/sniper mountain.
sometimes i have to head out the door and check towards the mini valley because enemies will charge down that path.)
Something people LOVE to do that will cause you grief, is hunt you down 20 times after you kill the monce..grudges run wild here.. and it’s funny, but you don’t want those deaths.
unrelated note: i’ve now stopped sniping with cold blodded and silencers...because of the damage multiplirs , you cannot, i repeat, cannot get headshots using a silenced cold blooded sniper rifle. Something they need to address.(this is not a issue in hardcore modes naturally)
I would be sniping mainly silenced IF I could add cold blooded and net headshots( i’m a decent sniper) [/end rant]
I tried using a Riot Shield , to get 7 kills- and it doesn’t work out with the difficulty of beating smart opponents in combat.It could, but you’re going to need to be in a situation where the baddies aren’t focused on you too much. Even with throwing knives- heck, the blast shield is almost more useful by far.
Perhaps in hardcore- then again, I dont really go for nukes in hardcore and have never seen a nuke in a hardcore mode.
Now to address some things said above:
Primary: ACR with either Holographic sight or noob tube if I’m in the mood.
Secondary: Akimbo models (yes I’m a whore and I don’t care who knows=)
Equipment: Claymore I always get a kill from it sometimes two or even more (I’m a master claymore setter=)
Perk1: Slight of hand pro for the faster aiming more then the faster reload
Perk2: Stopping power pro (its a must for the ACR)
Perk3: Ninja pro (a must for any class IMO)
lol, my final of 5 classes, is
ACR with thermal scope
one man army
frags or Tactical insertions
OMA
Danger close Pro
steady aim
The acr is really really good when I am forced to shoot automatic through the thermal scope.
OMA is part of my trategy to switch btween a silenced assault rifle, a one shot barrett(XD) and then the above is a simple assault standoff class. I won’t rush with it, i’ll use my AK47 with akimbo models
Now ,the theory in danger close pro. Since it increases killstreak damage, Theoretically i should switch to it before i call in things like a chopper gunner(it’d take out enemies even faster with the damage increace)..
now, if i was usign a AC 130, or any high killstreak, it’d really boost the damage, and ensure I can take out stragglers who are running behind cover.
in actuality, I have to get to a safe place before i do so, and I often call in the harrier quickly, so...i guess its habits.
Oh, and One Man Army solves all my ammo problems for the 3 classes it’s currently on. Better than scavenger in that, if i ,say; used a grenade launcher class on it, and feel like bombarding a place, i can launch 2 , refill without hunting for bodies, then do it again( i know, shoot me, it’s a bit lame even for camping enemies)
and IMO , One Man army is almost vital to sniping from the top of the building on highrise. AMMO is a huge problem. Sure, i’m adept with most guns if not all. but some maps...dictate you need certain weapons.
Sorry, but some of you don’t understand that the dude is only trying to help you get along in a game when the skill level rises as you prestige.
I, personally think that this was well thought out and has helped quite a few people. Although some of the things I would do differently, but either way I am new and to be honest I play properly and I don’t act like some of these “MLG Lone Wolf” assholes that think they are completely “LEET”.
In my eyes a tactical approach where one man helps the other often helps. I am sick and tired of matches like domination where I save a guys ass and he looks at this guy who kills me from behind and kills him afterwards. After I saved his ass.
Or if you steal my care package or even try after I help you or I do nothing at all. But you steal my kill.
I also hate when I run in on domination and the likes and capture it or just about and then you watch me die and take the credit for my kill and my capture. Although I do admit that it will help the team but sometimes it is annoying.
What else is annoying is when I cover you but you don’t cover me. Or when in demolition I, a sniper run andplant a bomb but you camp in a building when it is going off or don’t attack when attacking but when defending you attack, what the hell!
All bitching aside, some tactics help when going after a nuke but when trying to get it don’t be an ass please!!!....
