EB V3 wrote:
I’m guessing Flash is faster than Light, which is about Super Sonic maxium speed, but add Chaos Control to that and he’d be insanely fast Flash would probably outdo one or the other, but I don’k know if he’d be able to outrun both. I don’t see how Vietiful Joe would last against either of them in a race or combat though.
teleporting and chaos control wouldn’t work with joe’s slow down
plus sonic would just fall on the ground if he went in the air
Alphakennyone wrote:
Lol their was a gay sonic X episode where sonic almost lost to a speeding car.IDK who was riding the speeding car prolly chris father idk the new characters like chris r bullshiz i think Flash would win
that wasn’t any regular speding car it had like a million formula’s to make it faster each one like made it a million times faster.
ok look I just figured out something joe isn’t fast just his ability makes everthing faster so the slow thing makes him slow too so it’s left with sonic and flash.
The true Sonic wind wrote:
ok look I just figured out something joe isn’t fast just his ability makes everthing faster so the slow thing makes him slow too so it’s left with sonic and flash.
it gives him an edge
when everything is slowed down he is faster than everyone else
when things are sped up he is faster than everyoen else
OMG lol no one has read the old comics of sonic the heghog in the old comics 1993 sonic in his normal form was 3 times faster then light an flash is only the speed of light an viewfuljoes power of slower down time I higtly dout that it slows it down as fast as light I mean come on the real sonic would pwn flash superman who ever sonic is the fastest super hero ever 3 times the speed of light you dont belive me read the old comics ohh an think what happens if he turned in to super sonic or hyper sonic who knows how fast he could go. OH yeah if any one thinks flash can go faster then the speed of light cause he went throught time well albert eninstein’s thoery to go throught time was that u must exerlrate the speed of light to go throught time time. BY THE WAY MY SPELLING SUCKS
suerves wrote:
OMG lol no one has read the old comics of sonic the heghog in the old comics 1993 sonic in his normal form was 3 times faster then light an flash is only the speed of light an viewfuljoes power of slower down time I higtly dout that it slows it down as fast as light I mean come on the real sonic would pwn flash superman who ever sonic is the fastest super hero ever 3 times the speed of light you dont belive me read the old comics ohh an think what happens if he turned in to super sonic or hyper sonic who knows how fast he could go. OH yeah if any one thinks flash can go faster then the speed of light cause he went throught time well albert eninstein’s thoery to go throught time was that u must exerlrate the speed of light to go throught time time. BY THE WAY MY SPELLING SUCKS
I’ve read the Sonic comics. He’s pathetic.
Flash is so fast that he can turn into energy.
Viewtiful Joe is fast and can slow Sonic down so that Sonic is running in slo-mo while Joe is goign super speed.
Allright, now, Let me- I’ll just address things like this, we need a constructive debate,
#1. Sonic. Yes i am using the archie comics mainly, but LISTEN CLOSELY people.
SOnic’s old speed limit was 800mph..this was way back in the dang day
TOday
Hyper Sonic? THat is false. You have confused Sonic’s old form
If the average reader doesnt follow, let me explain
Sonic in the game Sonic the hedgehog 3, and the add on pack Sonic and Knuckles(making SOnic 3 and Knuckles when plugged in) had an additional form other than his infamous SUper Sonic form. That form was Hyper Sonic and was my avatar for a long time. It’s still on my account page , if you want a visual.
That is the highest superform Sonic has taken, acquired by unlocking the SUPER EMERALDS >I know because i did it on Sonic Mega COllection for the gamecube.
NOW< there is a difference between the definition of Supersonic speed(764 miles per hour at groudn level, closer to 660 35000+ ft altitude upwards- remember im a physics major and know this off the top of my head)
And Hyper Sonic - the CORRECT definition of it-is Mach 5+.
As opposed to Sonic’s Hyper Sonic form, a form which back then was beyong Super Sonic(Hyper Sonic has not appeared since, being phased ut as Super Sonic’s power increased)
K, still following guys? If you’ve managed to follow so far, you get a cookie.
Okay, ROund 2,
Sonic’s true speed.
First, anyone who has played Sonic Adventure, Sonic adventure 2, etc(shadow, Sonic heroes, Sonic 06) will know SOnic is past Mach 7 easily.
Why? The light speed DASH is in all those games. Oh, and in some of them(Sonic adventure/2/DX/Battle) the light speed attack exists. Oh, for those of you who didn’t finish the game like i did, SONIC HEROES has the light speed attack. Not the team attack, the real light speed attack
what does ^ mean? Well, a ligh speed move- ....and you want to tell me that Sonic is only hyper sonic?
Now, i’ll get serious. Sonic’s true top speed. His MAX, okay guys?
As a disclaimer, Chaos COntrol warps time and space, and if he has “stopped time” for himself, he’s moving at infintie speed via moving ANY distance with the timer staying 0. Provided he chooses to do that. Thats not his real max speed.
Sonic’s max speed- This has occured twice, and i have COVERED this before.
As far as i am aware timeline wise, this first occured in the comics. Doesn’t matter
A. In the archie comic Hypersonic #134, Sonic finally revealed his highest speeds. There were two missiles headed in opposite directions on a continent, that he had to stop. He needed to save the day, so he pulled out his True top speed, and ran so fast- Time stopped. He then proceeded to cream one missle , then went all the way to the other and took it out, with a side-effect! Sonic had trouble getting out of this mode. Sonic had to use methods liek trainspotting to help himself get unstuck from this speed.
Sonic X- Sonic had two real races with Chrus’s uncle and Sonic’s first met rival o n the show. Sam Speed.
In the first race, Sonic tapped a bit into his true power, in a race where Sam accelerated ahead of him. Sam mutters” the only way he can beat me now- is if he goes supersonic”
Then, Sonic accelerates, then run FORWARD, using speed on such a sheer level that Sam seems STOPPED to him as he passes by. Sam barely notices sonic, mainly startled by the ridiculous sonic boom.
#2. Their last official 2nd race. it was a whole episode. At the end, Sam is in a special rocket car. What does he do? he activates some sort of power generator, while neck-and neck with sonic and approaching the finishing line, and ZOOMs ahead, supersonically.
Sonic seems him pull away, and then struggles, and ...really strains and pulls his max speed. he seems to dash ahead.
THey seem to hit the finish line at the same time.
WHat was revelaed that really happened? sonic moved so fast, he hopped the finish line, ran into the stadum and bleachers, showed off to slow-mo cameras(he had to wait till they finally took a pic), then hopped back down, onto the racetrack, and INSTANTLY accelerated from that point, and then gave a encore performance and tied the race. And no one saw him until the cameras had shots of him showing off posing in a world no one , including a guy who had just broken the sound barrier and seemingly tied sonic, could see.
Yes i can show episodes. I might do so, but the point is- all 3 of these events were depictions of his real non-cc speed.
And some say he is only hypersonic at best- I could use a commonly touted point on loungmoviecodec about him excaping a black hole that light could not escape, but i wont go there.
So, what does sonic have? a. the power to reach speeds where he covers ANY distance with no time passing. With or without CC. CC is just him doing wat he wants with time. But without it, he can strain himself and use his own power to do thi.
b. cc.''
c. his independent light speed moves. Hence, LIGHT SPEED MOVES..
and that missile time, in Hyper Sonic 134- that was him in his base form, hitting infinite speed. Not Super Sonic. So yes, i was talking about base sonic. Moving WAY , way, way past light speed.
Normal Sonic has slightly more speed feats and sonic is the fastest thing alive and flash is the fastest man alive so am sorry sonic is faster than flash and sonic is the fastest superhero in history