Cid wrote:
Well if they say that nothing but those certain items can beat him then, that means that Goku can’t beat him. That’s it, and FYI Goku ain’t that tough, I can name several characters that could beat him.
Excuse me, did you just say Goku isn’t that tough; His power could easliy wipe out planets in a matter of seconds, yet he keeps getting stronger. There is no limit to a saiyan’s power, that you should know. Also in GT, he cannot die. He’s become an immortal, just like Sephiroth.
If you didn’t know, Dragon Ball GT isn’t even Cannon, it wasn’t made by Akira Toriyama... so basically anything done is GT technically doesn’t even count. So, Goku isn’t immortal, he can’t go stage 4 super saiyan, and Vegeta never did the fusion dance to become Gogeta.
It is only considered non-canon because it has a few contradictions. Not to mention it is only considered non-canon by some fans of the series. It was in fact, made by Toriyama, genius. He just didn’t have full contribution to it.
Cid wrote:
Goku isn’t that tough, Sephiroth could beat him, Naruto could beat him, Sesshoumaru could beat him, and Trogdor could beat him.
Goku would own Sephiroth 1,000,000,000 times over, Naruto isn’t at all a threat to Goku, Sesshoumaru couldn’t touch him, let alone harm him. As for Trogdor, he’d lose to pretty much anyone.
Yeah, its like if I made a topic called ummm.... “Who can kill the Tin Foil Monster!!" Except, This was made because everyone knows Trogdor is awesome.
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spartan 076 wrote:
Yeah, its like if I made a topic called ummm.... “Who can kill the Tin Foil Monster!!" Except, This was made because everyone knows Trogdor is awesome.
The thing is, people know a lot about Ryu. He has a limit to his power. Not enough is known about Trogdor for you to assume that Ryu could beat him. All we know is that he is unbeatable, and unless Ryu can defy the laws of nature, he’s screwed. Hell, even if he could Trogdor would pwn his ass.
Cid wrote:
Well if they say that nothing but those certain items can beat him then, that means that Goku can’t beat him. That’s it, and FYI Goku ain’t that tough, I can name several characters that could beat him.
Excuse me, did you just say Goku isn’t that tough; His power could easliy wipe out planets in a matter of seconds, yet he keeps getting stronger. There is no limit to a saiyan’s power, that you should know. Also in GT, he cannot die. He’s become an immortal, just like Sephiroth.
If you didn’t know, Dragon Ball GT isn’t even Cannon, it wasn’t made by Akira Toriyama... so basically anything done is GT technically doesn’t even count. So, Goku isn’t immortal, he can’t go stage 4 super saiyan, and Vegeta never did the fusion dance to become Gogeta.
It is only considered non-canon because it has a few insignificant contradictions. Not to mention it is only considered non-canon by some fans of the series. It was in fact, made by Toriyama, genius. He just didn’t have full contribution to it.
Cid wrote:
Goku isn’t that tough, Sephiroth could beat him, Naruto could beat him, Sesshoumaru could beat him, and Trogdor could beat him.
Goku would own Sephiroth 1,000,000,000 times over, Naruto isn’t at all a threat to Goku, Sesshoumaru woudn’t touch him, let alone harm him, and Trogdor would lose to just about anyone.
Akira Toriyama did the drawings for SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta, he took no other part in GT what so ever, he was done with Dragonball after Buu. Toei wrote the stories and came up with the new characters for GT, creating so many damn plotholes, it’s not even funny.
I dunno about Sephiroth, but Naruto and Sesshomaru would be lucky to even get a hit on Goku, and that hit probably wouldn’t even scratch him.
^ at least you seem to know your backstory behind Dragonball.
The only reason I think that Sesshoumaru could win is beause Sesshoumaru could send Goku to hell, but then again I forgot about the Instant Transmission.. so scratch that.
Naruto’s level 9 Kyuubi form is probably on Par with SS4 Gogeta as far as power is concerned, His level 4 Kyuubi form is probably at the level of a Mystic SS2 form. Naruto is very powerful when he relies on the Kyuubi’s power.
Cid wrote:
I found a VG character than can beat Trogdor
That is Palmer, he is unkillable, the only thing that can even remotely harm him is a truck with the ShinRa logo on it... he’s pure evil and as ugly as hell too
Atresac wrote:
The thing is, people know a lot about Ryu. He has a limit to his power. Not enough is known about Trogdor for you to assume that Ryu could beat him. All we know is that he is unbeatable.
Um no.
Atresac wrote:
and unless Ryu can defy the laws of nature, he’s screwed.
Ryu could easily kill Trogdor, it’s not even funny.
Atresac wrote:
Hell, even if he could Trogdor would pwn his ass.
EB V3 wrote:
Akira Toriyama did the drawings for SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta, he took no other part in GT what so ever, he was done with Dragonball after Buu. Toei wrote the stories and came up with the new characters for GT, creating so many damn plotholes, it’s not even funny.
Seems it doesn’t matter, since a link was posted earlier showing GT was officially canon and that it’s only considered non-canon by some fans of the series.
EB V3 wrote:
I dunno about Sephiroth, but Naruto and Sesshomaru would be lucky to even get a hit on Goku, and that hit probably wouldn’t even scratch him.
Cid wrote:
^ at least you seem to know your backstory behind Dragonball.
So do i.
Cid wrote:
The only reason I think that Sesshoumaru could win is beause Sesshoumaru could send Goku to hell, but then again I forgot about the Instant Transmission.. so scratch that.
There are also other reasons why he couldn’t do that.
Cid wrote:
Naruto’s level 9 Kyuubi form is probably on Par with SS4 Gogeta
Um no; i’ve seen Naruto in this form and he doesn’t do anything near as impressive as what SS4 Gogeta can do.
Cid wrote:
as far as power is concerned, His level 4 Kyuubi form is probably at the level of a Mystic SS2 form.
Again, this is wrong. And Mystic Form has nothing to do with Super Saiyan levels.
Cid wrote:
Naruto is very powerful when he relies on the Kyuubi’s power.
Though, is nowhere near the power of Goku in any Super Saiyan form.
