Cid wrote:
Naruto’s level 9 Kyuubi form is probably on Par with SS4 Gogeta
Um no; i’ve seen Naruto in this form and he doesn’t do anything near as impressive as what SS4 Gogeta could do.
Actually you haven’t seen Naruto in that forum, it hasn’t appeared yet, but there is specualtion about about powerful it will be. His level 4 form is 8 times more powerful that his level 0 form (level Zero is what he did against Haku) this leaves to belive that he’ll double in power everytime he gains a tail, so this means that bu the time he gets 8 tails he’ll be 16 times more powerful than his normal state. When he hits level 9 his Chakra is unlimited. Their Chakra is about the same thing as Ki, it’s their inner energy. So if he has infinite Chakra than he’s got more Ki than Goku. Further more, Naruto’s speed doubles everytime he upgrades a level. at Level 2 when fighting Sasuke he was on the verge of being unseeable by the naked eye, so at level 9 he’d be just as fast if not faster than Goku. His phyiscal strength is unknown, but when going into his level 0 form his punch cracked and broke in half, Haku’s Hunter nin mask, so if the trend continues he’ll be 18 times more powerful than that, if his strength doesn’t grow tremendously like his Chakra.
yusif2k wrote:
Cid wrote:
as far as power is concerned, His level 4 Kyuubi form is probably at the level of a Mystic SS2 form.
Again, this is wrong. And Mystic Form has nothing to do with Super Saiyan levels.
Mystic SS2 was the form that Gohan got after the old Kai unlocked his power.
yusif2k wrote:
Cid wrote:
Naruto is very powerful when he relies on the Kyuubi’s power.
Though, is nowhere near the power of Goku in any Super Saiyan form.
I’ve only seen the show. If I lived in the Naruto universe, I wouldn’t even learn jutsus. I’d just focus my chakra towards my hands, head, and feet, and then pound on my enemy.
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Trogdor is INVINCIBLE!!! What is so hard to grasp about that? The very MEANING of invincible is he canno die or be killed! Next time the laws of nature stop applying let me know.
that’s the only dude who can even stand a chance against trogdor, he’s practically immortal because of his lardified body. He’d annoy Trogdor so much that Tragdor would have to kill himself in order to stop from being driven insane by Palmer.
Atresac wrote:
Trogdor is INVINCIBLE!!! What is so hard to grasp about that? The very MEANING of invincible is he canno die or be killed! Next time the laws of nature stop applying let me know.
that’s the only dude who can even stand a chance against trogdor, he’s practically immortal because of his lardified body. He’d annoy Trogdor so much that Tragdor would have to kill himself in order to stop from being driven insane by Palmer.
Cid wrote:
Actually you haven’t seen Naruto in that forum. it hasn’t appeared yet, but there is specualtion about about powerful it will be.
If you’re talking about 9 tailed fox demon; yes i have.
Cid wrote:
His level 4 form is 8 times more powerful that his level 0 form (level Zero is what he did against Haku) this leaves to belive that he’ll double in power everytime he gains a tail, so this means that bu the time he gets 8 tails he’ll be 16 times more powerful than his normal state. When he hits level 9 his Chakra is unlimited. Their Chakra is about the same thing as Ki, it’s their inner energy. So if he has infinite Chakra than he’s got more Ki than Goku.
You’re forgetting Goku became immortal at the end of GT. So, it’s obvious he doesn’t run out of Ki. Quantity Ki isn’t an important factor BTW. Naruto’s power is limited; that’s when he achieves a maximum of 9 tails. Also from what i’ve read, Naruto’s body can’t quite handle the power in his 9 tailed form. Goku’s Ki power definitley surpasses Naruto’s. And, unlike Naruto, Goku ascends constantly and has no limit to his power; that’s a fact about Saiyans. Some time ago, Goku had enough power to wipe out a galaxy, now he’s even stronger. Correct me if i’m wrong, but Naruto has nothing that could destroy even a planet.
Cid wrote:
Further more, Naruto’s speed doubles everytime he upgrades a level. at Level 2 when fighting Sasuke he was on the verge of being unseeable by the naked eye, so at level 9 he’d be just as fast if not faster than Goku.
1. Goku has been invisible to the naked eye. 2. In the fight against the saiyans, Yamcha was invisible when fighting one of the saibamen. The only way to detect his movements was by sensing him. His speed is pathetic to Goku’s. On Namek, two of the Ginyu fighters couldn’t land a hit on Goku. It seemed to everyone inluding Gohan and Krillin all Goku was doing was standing there. Though Goku was actually dodging every one of their attacks, while no one was able to notice it. Goku is at least 10x faster than he was on Namek and that’s definitely an understatement. Not to mention there’s no limit to Saiyans' stats. Meaning their strength, defense, and speed do not have a limit.
Cid wrote:
His phyiscal strength is unknown, but when going into his level 0 form his punch cracked and broke in half, Haku’s Hunter nin mask, so if the trend continues he’ll be 18 times more powerful than that if his strength doesn’t grow tremendously like his Chakra
Great but how does this prove his power is anywhere close to Goku’s;
Cid wrote:
Mystic SS2 was the form that Gohan got after the old Kai unlocked his power.
Incorrect; SS levels is different than Mystic Form. Mystic Form unlocks true potential. After that, SS levels aren’t needed. Well, at least for Gohan.
Cid wrote:
yusif2k wrote:
Though, is nowhere near the power of Goku in any Super Saiyan form.
Yusif, Naruto hasn’t even came close to his 9 tailed form in the manga, and in his level 4 form he would have been able to easily kill Orochimaru, and Orochimaru is supposed to be the srongest person alive. As always all you’re doing is posting what you think, of course it is the same with me in this case, but do to the fact that the 9 Tailed Naruto hasn’t even been shown, it can’t be helped.
And quit talking about Dragonball GT, it shouldn’t be considered cannon, there are too many inconsistancies
Naruto wouldn’t even be able to beat Roshi let alone an SSJ. I mean come, this is a guy who blew up the friggin moon. Even though he’d have to charge up to blow up the moon he could easily blow Naruto away. Okay an ordinary Kunai is a dangerous weapon in Naruto, though not as effective before the time jump, if any Naruto character pulls out a Kunai Chazou would laugh at his or her ass. Freeza was still on Namek after it blew up, and he was severely injured(He was in 3 pieces and then took another Ki Blast from Goku, then Namek exploded) and Freeza survived. Trunks came along and slaughtered Freeza in a matter of seconds. No one in Naruto has that power.
In the Naruto universe Jiraiya and Itachi are stronger than Orichimaru. Orichimaru was afraid of Itachi, and Itachi had to retreat while fighting Jiraiya with help from Kisame.
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