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Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

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Deviant Kal wrote: Post that have no time frame.



The time frame was in the scans, you know... Where Ichigo says his blade disappeared. How is that not considered a timeframe? He was looking at his blade then suddenly it disappeared. ALSO he was in the middle of an attack, about to slash downward at Renji, so there’s a timeframe as well.


Yep. It’s just not a concrete timeframe. There isn’t one in the Naruto scan either.



There is one, just look at the water.

And read this topic.

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=461035


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Deviant Kal wrote:

Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote: Post that have no time frame.



The time frame was in the scans, you know... Where Ichigo says his blade disappeared. How is that not considered a timeframe? He was looking at his blade then suddenly it disappeared. ALSO he was in the middle of an attack, about to slash downward at Renji, so there’s a timeframe as well.


Yep. It’s just not a concrete timeframe. There isn’t one in the Naruto scan either.



There is one, just look at the water.

And read this topic.

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=461035



How is the water a better timeframe then the blink of an eye?


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Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote: It is not at all thats just artist’s style



How is a technique artists style, would you mind explaining that?



Speed can be roughly tiered across verses

But it’s redundant when speed is also factored by plot and stylistic choices. The character will be as fast as he has to be for the plot to move.

Hence Sasuke escaping Deidara etc etc.


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Deviant Kal wrote:

Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote: It is not at all thats just artist’s style



How is a technique artists style, would you mind explaining that?



Speed can be roughly tiered across verses

But it’s redundant when speed is also factored by plot and stylistic choices. The character will be as fast as he has to be for the plot to move.

Hence Sasuke escaping Deidara etc etc.


That does not take away from the speed feats though. Unless there is ridiculous inconsistancy afterwards.


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Deviant Kal wrote:

Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote: It is not at all thats just artist’s style



How is a technique artists style, would you mind explaining that?



Speed can be roughly tiered across verses

But it’s redundant when speed is also factored by plot and stylistic choices. The character will be as fast as he has to be for the plot to move.

Hence Sasuke escaping Deidara etc etc.



That would make sense if it wasn’t done over and over.

Flash step has been used multiple times, and it always works the same way.

And not to mention that it is a technique. There’s little difference between it and the Instant Transmission from DBZ. They’re stated to be instantaneous movement.

So is the Instant Transmission also artists style?


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Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote:

Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote: It is not at all thats just artist’s style



How is a technique artists style, would you mind explaining that?



Speed can be roughly tiered across verses

But it’s redundant when speed is also factored by plot and stylistic choices. The character will be as fast as he has to be for the plot to move.

Hence Sasuke escaping Deidara etc etc.


That does not take away from the speed feats though. Unless there is ridiculous inconsistancy afterwards.



And as I mentioned, it’s repeated several times throughout the series. Right off the top of my head I can rememebr Yoruichi, Grimjow, and Ichigo mimicking it.


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Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote:

Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote: It is not at all thats just artist’s style



How is a technique artists style, would you mind explaining that?



Speed can be roughly tiered across verses

But it’s redundant when speed is also factored by plot and stylistic choices. The character will be as fast as he has to be for the plot to move.

Hence Sasuke escaping Deidara etc etc.



That would make sense if it wasn’t done over and over.

Flash step has been used multiple times, and it always works the same way.

And not to mention that it is a technique. There’s little difference between it and the Instant Transmission from DBZ. They’re stated to be instantaneous movement.

So is the Instant Transmission also artists style?



IT is not speed.


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Deviant Kal wrote:

Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote:

Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote: It is not at all thats just artist’s style



How is a technique artists style, would you mind explaining that?



Speed can be roughly tiered across verses

But it’s redundant when speed is also factored by plot and stylistic choices. The character will be as fast as he has to be for the plot to move.

Hence Sasuke escaping Deidara etc etc.



That would make sense if it wasn’t done over and over.

Flash step has been used multiple times, and it always works the same way.

And not to mention that it is a technique. There’s little difference between it and the Instant Transmission from DBZ. They’re stated to be instantaneous movement.

So is the Instant Transmission also artists style?



IT is not speed.


Actually teleportation can be considered a type of speed. By defenition, speed is the rate of change between point a to point b. Teleportation is an instaneious movement, or in the case of rate of change, it would be an instant rate of change. Infinite rate of change basically. The moment you leave is the moment you moment you arrive.


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Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote:

Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote:

Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote: It is not at all thats just artist’s style



How is a technique artists style, would you mind explaining that?



Speed can be roughly tiered across verses

But it’s redundant when speed is also factored by plot and stylistic choices. The character will be as fast as he has to be for the plot to move.

Hence Sasuke escaping Deidara etc etc.



That would make sense if it wasn’t done over and over.

Flash step has been used multiple times, and it always works the same way.

And not to mention that it is a technique. There’s little difference between it and the Instant Transmission from DBZ. They’re stated to be instantaneous movement.

So is the Instant Transmission also artists style?



IT is not speed.


Actually teleportation can be considered a type of speed. By defenition, speed is the rate of change between point a to point b. Teleportation is an instaneious movement, or in the case of rate of change, it would be an instant rate of change. Infinite rate of change basically. The moment you leave is the moment you moment you arrive.



Which is what the Flash Step is. Except it’s not teleportation because they take a step.


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Cid Highwind wrote:

Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote:

Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote:

Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote: It is not at all thats just artist’s style



How is a technique artists style, would you mind explaining that?



Speed can be roughly tiered across verses

But it’s redundant when speed is also factored by plot and stylistic choices. The character will be as fast as he has to be for the plot to move.

Hence Sasuke escaping Deidara etc etc.



That would make sense if it wasn’t done over and over.

Flash step has been used multiple times, and it always works the same way.

And not to mention that it is a technique. There’s little difference between it and the Instant Transmission from DBZ. They’re stated to be instantaneous movement.

So is the Instant Transmission also artists style?



IT is not speed.


Actually teleportation can be considered a type of speed. By defenition, speed is the rate of change between point a to point b. Teleportation is an instaneious movement, or in the case of rate of change, it would be an instant rate of change. Infinite rate of change basically. The moment you leave is the moment you moment you arrive.



Which is what the Flash Step is. Except it’s not teleportation because they take a step.


I know, just saying.


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Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

Cid Highwind wrote:

Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote:

Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote:

Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote: It is not at all thats just artist’s style



How is a technique artists style, would you mind explaining that?



Speed can be roughly tiered across verses

But it’s redundant when speed is also factored by plot and stylistic choices. The character will be as fast as he has to be for the plot to move.

Hence Sasuke escaping Deidara etc etc.



That would make sense if it wasn’t done over and over.

Flash step has been used multiple times, and it always works the same way.

And not to mention that it is a technique. There’s little difference between it and the Instant Transmission from DBZ. They’re stated to be instantaneous movement.

So is the Instant Transmission also artists style?



IT is not speed.


Actually teleportation can be considered a type of speed. By defenition, speed is the rate of change between point a to point b. Teleportation is an instaneious movement, or in the case of rate of change, it would be an instant rate of change. Infinite rate of change basically. The moment you leave is the moment you moment you arrive.



Which is what the Flash Step is. Except it’s not teleportation because they take a step.


I know, just saying.



Kal is seriously beginning to annoy me though. Think I’ll just leave it at this, the math proves that Bleach is at least supersonic. By how much is unknown, but they have to be supersonic to pull off the things they do. Amirite?


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From the looks of it yes, and when he brought this up to me through pm, I figured it was flash step.


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Kurt Donald Cobain wrote: From the looks of it yes, and when he brought this up to me through pm, I figured it was flash step.



Not sure what the Bleach speed is outside of flashstep. Most of the time it’s extremely difficult to even determine when they’re using it or not. For example, Chaos Theory says Kenpachi never used shunpo, however he was beside Ichigo and said something, Ichigo turns around and Kenpachi is on top of a building over a dozen meters away (it seems)

So that would be in normal speed.

I believe Yoruichi takes down like 12 guys before the first person falls without flashstep.


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Crimson_Blade wrote: fap fap fap fap


^sums up this thread


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Crimson_Blade wrote:

Crimson_Blade wrote: fap fap fap fap


^sums up this thread



You have some cream on your face.


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Cid Highwind wrote:

Crimson_Blade wrote:

Crimson_Blade wrote: fap fap fap fap


^sums up this thread



You have some cream on your face.


Would you get it for me? My tongue isn’t long enough. o.o


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Kurt Donald Cobain wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote:

Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote:

Cid Highwind wrote:

Deviant Kal wrote: It is not at all thats just artist’s style



How is a technique artists style, would you mind explaining that?



Speed can be roughly tiered across verses

But it’s redundant when speed is also factored by plot and stylistic choices. The character will be as fast as he has to be for the plot to move.

Hence Sasuke escaping Deidara etc etc.



That would make sense if it wasn’t done over and over.

Flash step has been used multiple times, and it always works the same way.

And not to mention that it is a technique. There’s little difference between it and the Instant Transmission from DBZ. They’re stated to be instantaneous movement.

So is the Instant Transmission also artists style?



IT is not speed.


Actually teleportation can be considered a type of speed. By defenition, speed is the rate of change between point a to point b. Teleportation is an instaneious movement, or in the case of rate of change, it would be an instant rate of change. Infinite rate of change basically. The moment you leave is the moment you moment you arrive.



It isn’t considered at all

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inb4 Sonido

And stop posting links to Narutofantardforum.com, please. It’s annoying.


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LordMarluxia wrote: inb4 Sonido

And stop posting links to Narutofantardforum.com, please. It’s annoying.



haha


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