Tippership Commander wrote:
if you count that supes to be “more perfect” than Pre/crisis/prime ..... i guess so..
GOku...when i think of him, i don’t think"HERO” in the traditional sense...and not just caz he’s not wearing a cape....
He’s.....his style.......
PErhap’s that’s it.....
Now, i must admit, i am a big fan of Goku....
i know u guys are going to ramp on me for this, but i believe , contradictons, akira, everything else included, that SS3 GOku is the strongest....( although, i DO acknowledge GOtenks and Mystic Gohan)...
HOwever, it’s also abotu the ideal image of a hero....and the great saiyaman...it perhaps TOO traditional...
but, when he turn’s Super Saiyan, you know it’s departed from traditional cape-hero tactics, and poses....caz we know he;s going kick some$&% when he does that..
SS3 GOku........seems a symbol of HOPE to me...
now, GT.....is FUNNY....
Idk where to place SS4 GOgeta.....a HERO? he is, .....
He’s the ultimate power....but...
....my conclusion is...AKira knows how to deviate from the norm for heroes
Ya I guess and there is no traditional superhero that probably started because of supes he’s the first famous heroes other being detectives in novels in such. A hero to me is a person with control because we all know that villains could be heroes if just written differently goku never dealt with he just perfect.
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1outofDAinfinite wrote:
To me Goku is just not the ultimate hero he’s already better then everybody else he never struggles with anything he’s like Superman in the 30’s perfect sun of god perfect.
I understand. I like Spiderman too I read a few comics of him. I know what u mean he struggles a lot in life from ur post above. He struggle in a different way Goku does.
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
To me Goku is just not the ultimate hero he’s already better then everybody else he never struggles with anything he’s like Superman in the 30’s perfect sun of god perfect.
I understand. I like Spiderman too I read a few comics of him. I know what u mean he struggles a lot in life from ur post above. He struggle in a different way Goku does.
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
To me Goku is just not the ultimate hero he’s already better then everybody else he never struggles with anything he’s like Superman in the 30’s perfect sun of god perfect.
I understand. I like Spiderman too I read a few comics of him. I know what u mean he struggles a lot in life from ur post above. He struggle in a different way Goku does.
true.....
Struggled ha.. Goku never met his parents they and almost his whole race was destroyed. His only family was his adoptive grandfather and he died leaving goku to live on his own for years at the age of i would say 9-12. Gokus brother tryed to kill him. Goku learned he was supossed to kill everyone on the planet. Goku also learned he was the one that killed his grandfather. goku had to DIE!!!!! to kill his BROTHER!!!!!. Goku has to watch his best friend BLOW UP INTO NOTHING. And non of this effected goku mentaly That is what i call not being a little weak mineded biatch like emo spiderman
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
To me Goku is just not the ultimate hero he’s already better then everybody else he never struggles with anything he’s like Superman in the 30’s perfect sun of god perfect.
I understand. I like Spiderman too I read a few comics of him. I know what u mean he struggles a lot in life from ur post above. He struggle in a different way Goku does.
true.....
Struggled ha.. Goku never met his parents they and almost his whole race was destroyed. His only family was his adoptive grandfather and he died leaving goku to live on his own for years at the age of i would say 9-12. Gokus brother tryed to kill him. Goku learned he was supossed to kill everyone on the planet. Goku also learned he was the one that killed his grandfather. goku had to DIE!!!!! to kill his BROTHER!!!!!. Goku has to watch his best friend BLOW UP INTO NOTHING. And non of this effected goku mentaly That is what i call not being a little weak mineded biatch like emo spiderman
it did affect him mentally, ....that’s hence the SUper Saiyan transformation...
and don’t forget, there is a sadistic darker restlessness side to SUpersaiyans..... SS2 GOhan TEEN is a good example...
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
To me Goku is just not the ultimate hero he’s already better then everybody else he never struggles with anything he’s like Superman in the 30’s perfect sun of god perfect.
I understand. I like Spiderman too I read a few comics of him. I know what u mean he struggles a lot in life from ur post above. He struggle in a different way Goku does.
true.....
Struggled ha.. Goku never met his parents they and almost his whole race was destroyed. His only family was his adoptive grandfather and he died leaving goku to live on his own for years at the age of i would say 9-12. Gokus brother tryed to kill him. Goku learned he was supossed to kill everyone on the planet. Goku also learned he was the one that killed his grandfather. goku had to DIE!!!!! to kill his BROTHER!!!!!. Goku has to watch his best friend BLOW UP INTO NOTHING. And non of this effected goku mentaly That is what i call not being a little weak mineded biatch like emo spiderman
O go fuckyourself you posted your opinion i posted mind he didn’t fight his brother all he sw was a challenge he doesn’t care about his own race he didn’t know he was fucking alien the whole thing could be sai for Superman.
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1outofDAinfinite wrote:
To me Goku is just not the ultimate hero he’s already better then everybody else he never struggles with anything he’s like Superman in the 30’s perfect sun of god perfect.
I understand. I like Spiderman too I read a few comics of him. I know what u mean he struggles a lot in life from ur post above. He struggle in a different way Goku does.
true.....
Struggled ha.. Goku never met his parents they and almost his whole race was destroyed. His only family was his adoptive grandfather and he died leaving goku to live on his own for years at the age of i would say 9-12. Gokus brother tryed to kill him. Goku learned he was supossed to kill everyone on the planet. Goku also learned he was the one that killed his grandfather. goku had to DIE!!!!! to kill his BROTHER!!!!!. Goku has to watch his best friend BLOW UP INTO NOTHING. And non of this effected goku mentaly That is what i call not being a little weak mineded biatch like emo spiderman
Spidey actually takes the death of his girlfriend(which he caused) quite well... but then again when Aunt May died he made a deal with Mephisto. lol
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
To me Goku is just not the ultimate hero he’s already better then everybody else he never struggles with anything he’s like Superman in the 30’s perfect sun of god perfect.
I understand. I like Spiderman too I read a few comics of him. I know what u mean he struggles a lot in life from ur post above. He struggle in a different way Goku does.
true.....
Struggled ha.. Goku never met his parents they and almost his whole race was destroyed. His only family was his adoptive grandfather and he died leaving goku to live on his own for years at the age of i would say 9-12. Gokus brother tryed to kill him. Goku learned he was supossed to kill everyone on the planet. Goku also learned he was the one that killed his grandfather. goku had to DIE!!!!! to kill his BROTHER!!!!!. Goku has to watch his best friend BLOW UP INTO NOTHING. And non of this effected goku mentaly That is what i call not being a little weak mineded biatch like emo spiderman
Spidey actually takes the death of his girlfriend(which he caused) quite well... but then again when Aunt May died he made a deal with Mephisto. lol
Death of his family
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A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.
-Agent Kay
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
To me Goku is just not the ultimate hero he’s already better then everybody else he never struggles with anything he’s like Superman in the 30’s perfect sun of god perfect.
I understand. I like Spiderman too I read a few comics of him. I know what u mean he struggles a lot in life from ur post above. He struggle in a different way Goku does.
true.....
Struggled ha.. Goku never met his parents they and almost his whole race was destroyed. His only family was his adoptive grandfather and he died leaving goku to live on his own for years at the age of i would say 9-12. Gokus brother tryed to kill him. Goku learned he was supossed to kill everyone on the planet. Goku also learned he was the one that killed his grandfather. goku had to DIE!!!!! to kill his BROTHER!!!!!. Goku has to watch his best friend BLOW UP INTO NOTHING. And non of this effected goku mentaly That is what i call not being a little weak mineded biatch like emo spiderman
O go fuckyourself you posted your opinion i posted mind he didn’t fight his brother all he sw was a challenge he doesn’t care about his own race he didn’t know he was fucking alien the whole thing could be sai for Superman.
Thats exactly what im trying to tell you. He isnt a little mental bitch like everyone else. Hell he doesnt even fight to kill he just wants to be the best. And when someone does come around what does he do stands up for everyone that cant fight
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
To me Goku is just not the ultimate hero he’s already better then everybody else he never struggles with anything he’s like Superman in the 30’s perfect sun of god perfect.
I understand. I like Spiderman too I read a few comics of him. I know what u mean he struggles a lot in life from ur post above. He struggle in a different way Goku does.
true.....
Struggled ha.. Goku never met his parents they and almost his whole race was destroyed. His only family was his adoptive grandfather and he died leaving goku to live on his own for years at the age of i would say 9-12. Gokus brother tryed to kill him. Goku learned he was supossed to kill everyone on the planet. Goku also learned he was the one that killed his grandfather. goku had to DIE!!!!! to kill his BROTHER!!!!!. Goku has to watch his best friend BLOW UP INTO NOTHING. And non of this effected goku mentaly That is what i call not being a little weak mineded biatch like emo spiderman
O go fuckyourself you posted your opinion i posted mind he didn’t fight his brother all he sw was a challenge he doesn’t care about his own race he didn’t know he was fucking alien the whole thing could be sai for Superman.
Thats exactly what im trying to tell you. He isnt a little mental bitch like everyone else. Hell he doesnt even fight to kill he just wants to be the best. And when someone does come around what does he do stands up for everyone that cant fight
How come you couldn’t say that instead of sounding like an ignorant fanboy.
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But Mystic Gohan pawned Buu! SSJ3 Goku had a tought time. You remember that episode when Gohan came back wearing his fathers clothing as a sign of respect? He was WAAAAYYY stronger than Buu, of course Buu did absorb him...so, I guess ssj3 goku is a better fighter and stronger. lol
I guess a guy’s ultimate hero is based on how much a person can relate to the character. It doesnt matter how strong the character is, its what the person see in the character and what he fights for.
But Mystic Gohan pawned Buu! SSJ3 Goku had a tought time. You remember that episode when Gohan came back wearing his fathers clothing as a sign of respect? He was WAAAAYYY stronger than Buu, of course Buu did absorb him...so, I guess ssj3 goku is a better fighter and stronger. lol
you know, whenther oen agrees with my view of SSj3 Goku beign strongest , or the one that GOhan mystic, or GOTENKS SS3 is strongest, it DOESN’t matter..
looking at all 3 of them, i see GOku as the iconic “hero” of it, because ...that’s the light he was put in...
if akira wanted otherwise, he would have done so... i mean ,he would have made a definite thing or other somehow makign GOtenks the “hero type thru and thru” if he’d wanted...
a better fighter, and stronger??
maybe...
i doubt it makes him a better hero, but in some ideals, it might....