why isn't GT considered canon?

Didn’t Akira approve of the series? And if so, isn’t that all that really matters?

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yes Akira approved it

Poll is misleading. The question is not 'yes or no' answer.

In any case, it’s not canon since the creator didn’t write it. Mere approval does not canon make.

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LordMarluxia wrote: Poll is misleading. The question is not 'yes or no' answer.

In any case, it’s not canon since the creator didn’t write it. Mere approval does not canon make.

How would you have written the Poll? So the original creator always needs to write it for it to be canon? I guess non of the recent superman or batman comics are canon then. I did put “other”

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some one new wrote:

LordMarluxia wrote: Poll is misleading. The question is not 'yes or no' answer.

In any case, it’s not canon since the creator didn’t write it. Mere approval does not canon make.

How would you have written the Poll? So the original creator always needs to write it for it to be canon? I guess non of the recent superman or batman comics are canon then. I did put “other”

It would be 'Is GT canon?' Not 'WHY isn’t GT considered canon?' Considering all the poll choices except 'other' are not matching with the poll question, I say it’s pretty misleading.

And as for your statement about 'so the original creator always needs to write it for it to be canon,' it depends.

Some people might consider Superman or any other typical superhero series as canonical even if they are written by different people since the series is way too long for ONE person to actually finish it. It just goes on forever.

Anime, on the other hand, is much shorter. FMA, for example- Although the creator of Fullmetal Alchemist approved the anime version of it, she is still continuing the manga with completely different storyline than the anime version. In this case, the manga version would be considered canonical.

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LordMarluxia wrote:

some one new wrote:

LordMarluxia wrote: Poll is misleading. The question is not 'yes or no' answer.

In any case, it’s not canon since the creator didn’t write it. Mere approval does not canon make.

How would you have written the Poll? So the original creator always needs to write it for it to be canon? I guess non of the recent superman or batman comics are canon then. I did put “other”

It would be 'Is GT canon?' Not 'WHY isn’t GT considered canon?' Considering all the poll choices except 'other' are not matching with the poll question, I say it’s pretty misleading.

And as for your statement about 'so the original creator always needs to write it for it to be canon,' it depends.

Some people might consider Superman or any other typical superhero series as canonical even if they are written by different people since the series is way too long for ONE person to actually finish it. It just goes on forever.

Anime, on the other hand, is much shorter. FMA, for example- Although the creator of Fullmetal Alchemist approved the anime version of it, she is still continuing the manga with completely different storyline than the anime version. In this case, the manga version would be considered canonical.

Well it still seems more like opinion than fact to classify it in either way. If the creator approved it then why should there be any question? With DBZ the manga and the Anime were supposed to follow a similar story line. Except for the Movies and Filler.

Sound DBZ logic cannot be destroyed; the efforts of the so-called super elite will always be in vain. Have at thee Krom!

It is not cannon because even Toriyama himself denied it.

“Dragon Ball GT was an original sequel series to Dragon Ball Z, based on the manga by Akira Toriyama. Toriyama did contribute some material early on, such as character designs for the leads, their spaceship, and some of the aliens, but for the most part, it was the work of Toei Animation. The author himself stated on an interview in the Perfect File books that he has had no problems with the series and was satisfied with its conclusion. However, he did wish to have had more involvement with the series.
Regardless of the creator’s influence, a number of plot holes make the series difficult to classify as canon. These include, but are not limited to:"
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Canon

Apparently Toriyama-sama wanted it to be canon.

GT can’t simply be considered canon because Toriyama approves it, because it has way too many plot holes to be considered canon.

1. Emperor Pilaf shouldn’t be alive because Vegeta only wished for the good guys to be wished back on earth.

2. Gohan shouldn’t be able to go Super Saiyan because of his mystic powers, and if he did somehow manage it everything around him, including the planet would be destroyed, you can’t ignore such a huge plot element from the canon series.

3. Elder Kai knowing about SSJ4, what the hell?

4. SSJ4 shouldn’t exist, because SSJ3 is hardly a true transformation, it’s a forced transformation made by Goku by finding a new Ki inside him, it wasn’t an original part of the transformation like SSJ2.

Here’s a chart I wrote up to show you the statistics of why SSJ4 shouldn’t exist.

Oozaru

— — -> Super Saiyan 4

Super Saiyan


Now for Super Saiyan 3.


Super Saiyan — — - > Super Saiyan 2 + increased ki capacity = Super Saiyan 3.


Super Saiyan Super Saiyan 2 Super Saiyan 3
Oozaru
Super Saiyan 4

This insane amount of logic clearly speaks for itself, Super Saiyan 4 does NOT come after Super Saiyan 3, and therefore isn’t it’s successor, and shouldn’t be called SSJ4 nor should it exist.

It has a cool means of transforming, but it’s still a major reason why GT isn’t canon.

Approval by the series creator doesn’t make it canon, because if you look in the Super 17 saga, it shows Cooler.. so if GT was canon, that would make all the movie characters canon.

Cooler isn’t canon, and never will be because he put up less of a fight than Freeza for SSJ Goku, and they said Cooler was stronger. His second form makes no sense and isn’t explained.

Broly isn’t canon because the Legendary Super Saiyan is every Super Saiyan, it’s a legendary transformation.. Broly isn’t the one legendary Super Saiyan, Goku, Gohan, Goten, Vegeta, Trunks, Gotenks, Vegito, Gogeta.. they’re ALL legendary.

Those are the only points I need to make with movie villains, there isn’t any need to point anything more out, I hope this reply proves once and for all to you all that GT isn’t canon, but you still have the right to have your opinions.

Hell, even Gogeta isn’t canon.. because he appears stronger than Vegito with his greatly flashier SSJ aura.. anything not written by the series creator isn’t canon.

GT had potential, and despite it being canon if it was better I would have enjoyed watching it.