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Tobi Madara is Obito

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12-03-2011 05:16 AM
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Just so I can stop seeing Tobi is blah blah Izuna. Tobi is Obito because of the following:

1. He hints it in his own name.

2. His right eye is the eye that Kakashi didn’t take. If you are also thinking “Well Obito would have died”, that isn’t completely true. Tobi’s eye has the ability to suck up things and he can also retreat into it as well as teleport to other places via it’s use. So he could possibly sucked up the wreckage he was under when his ability was awaken or just teleported to another location while he was buried.

3. Tobi wants to end war so that must mean he was a victim of war. Now get this, what if what I said didn’t happen instantly? What if Obito was buried alive for a long long time? The amount of psychological damage that would of put on him would be to much for a mind to keep whatever morals he had before and could explain why he feels the way he feels. He survives then finds out that Rin is dead and the massive amounts of beef between the sides of the war he was in never got resolved. That would implore change right?

4. The time he attacked Minato would not put Obito at a young age. I’ve seen some say that Obito would be to young to attack Minato at that time. That’s not true. If you paid attention to the flash back then you would know Kakashi was very mature around that time and be in his later teenage/young adult years. Obito would be around the same.

5. Obito is no one. Just a corpse that did nothing significant but die just like every other ninja before him. He had no accomplishments. The only ones that could possibly mourn over his death or know he was are Kakashi, Rin, & Minato. Only one of those three are actually living.


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12-03-2011 09:06 AM
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Why Madara know about tobi??

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12-03-2011 09:14 AM
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Obito and Kakashi are about the same age. Kakashi was a young boy when Tobi first attacked. Sorry but a young boy like Obito, if he were that strong would not have 0 accomplishments and Kakashi would know who he was. Tobi also said he was going to create peace by war. Not to mention Madara knows who Tobi is. Ergo, You’re wrong.


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King Dhaos wrote: Obito and Kakashi are about the same age. Kakashi was a young boy when Tobi first attacked. Sorry but a young boy like Obito, if he were that strong would not have 0 accomplishments and Kakashi would know who he was. Tobi also said he was going to create peace by war. Not to mention Madara knows who Tobi is. Ergo, You’re wrong.



agree with this statement

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Not to mention Tobi looks like a damned old man. So it’s not Obito.


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tobi looks old. obito has no reason to attack konoha. how would minato not recognise him? how did obito get as strong as madara? how come kyuubi said “you” when No One showed up in konoha? did he see obito through kushinas stomach?
why would kisame say he was madara after seeing his face? is obito madaras twin? is kisame blind? if so, why would kishi show us this?
why would kishi show no signs of obito being evil in the gaiden just to turn a weak pussy like him into a cold intelligent evil badass?

“He hints it in his own name."
tobi means ten tails. obito does not.

“Obito is no one. Just a corpse that did nothing significant but die just like every other ninja before him”
exactly. hes dead. hes not tobi. move on.

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I still say it’s Izuna.


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King Dhaos wrote: Obito and Kakashi are about the same age. Kakashi was a young boy when Tobi first attacked. Sorry but a young boy like Obito, if he were that strong would not have 0 accomplishments and Kakashi would know who he was. Tobi also said he was going to create peace by war. Not to mention Madara knows who Tobi is. Ergo, You’re wrong.



Does Madara know who Tobi is? I don’t remember it being mentioned.

As for Kakashi being a boy:



As you can clearly see right here, Kakashi was not a boy when Tobi had attacked. So if Kakashi was in his teen/young adult age, that means the Tobi we saw would be around the same age.



tobi looks old.



If you had your face smashed under a pile of rocks, you wouldn’t exactly look like Shawn Michaels right after.

I only remember the Kyuubi showing any kind of emotion when the legit Madara showed up. Feel free to prove me wrong with scans please.

I’m sure Minato’s students would have a tad bit of fame due to the fact they were the Flash Ninja’s students. With two being dead, I’m sure Kisame would be surprised.

As for your other points, I answered it in the beginning post.


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Well that kid Obito can’t just have Mangekyou eyes and suck that rock ain’t he? And the mangekyou sharingan of Kakashi and Tobi is totally different.Tobi’s Mangekyou is like Madara’s.
Well if it’s Izuna how come Madara had an eternal mangekyou sharingan too? They can’t have it both.One of them must go blind.I still think it’s Madara.Like tsunade stated ''the old and the young''.


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Kakashi’s

Tobi’s


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Madara state His and Kabuto reply his assistant ??

Edited 12-04-2011 05:55 AM by coolstuff
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It’s Tobi he’s referring to.It might be a zetsu clone or the technique of muu the partial clone.''The Old and The Young'' like what Tsunade stated.The clone lived long enough to follow the plans.The Young Madara(edo) Lived so long to meet mizukage ,Kisame,And the first Akatsuki members Konan,Yahiko,Nagato.
Things don’t seem to be going according to the plan.


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01-23-2012 05:04 PM
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ok but who is to say that the reson tobi’s is diffent know is because he got rid of his old sharigan and took maderas. What if madera saved obito, gave him his eyes, and wanted obito to take on his name to casuse the next great nija war. Face warped because he got crushed by a rock, and yes he was pretty much an adult when the nine tails incident happened so it is quite possible. Honestly it cannot be any other uchia because they are not mentioned very often. Think about it, sushei(Itachi’s friend) was mentioned numorus times,and he most likely isnt tobi because he was againtst the uchia coup. Madera is metioneoned quite often, but aside from them you only hear of a few others maby once or twice.

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It definitely does have to do with Tobi, since his name is an anagram of Tobi. Maybr it’s someone in Tobi’s body.


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Interesting speculation going on in this thread.

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“f you had your face smashed under a pile of rocks, you wouldn’t exactly look like Shawn Michaels right after."
no. you would be dead. not somehow being as strong as madara and somehow being a bit taller than your already tall and much older sensei who apparently cant recognise your voice after a few years

“It definitely does have to do with Tobi, since his name is an anagram of Tobi."
there are alot of names that are similar lol. for example sakura and sasuke. doesnt mean they are the same person. for the record tobi is another translation of ten tails.

“What if madera saved obito”
why would he do that? as far as he knows, obito is just another weakling casualty of war. plus madara cannot be saving anyone when he died during nagatos childhood. madara knows who tobi is meaning obito is literally impossible.

“warped because he got crushed by a rock, and yes he was pretty much an adult when the nine tails incident happened "
kakashi was still a “younger ninja” and not that tall compared to full grown adults

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Ussj Future Trunks wrote: “It definitely does have to do with Tobi, since his name is an anagram of Tobi."
there are alot of names that are similar lol. for example sakura and sasuke. doesnt mean they are the same person. for the record tobi is another translation of ten tails.

Sakura is not an anagram of Sasuke.


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01-26-2012 01:31 AM
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the fact is, Tobi revealed his true self to kisame and he recognized him as madara, meaning it is infact 2 madara’s One old and dead the other using the first hokages tree gene to stay alive as was stated in the manga. (they said something along the lines of this happening when he fought the first hokage and the valley of the dead)

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Sincere604 wrote: the fact is, Tobi revealed his true self to kisame and he recognized him as madara, meaning it is infact 2 madara’s One old and dead the other using the first hokages tree gene to stay alive as was stated in the manga. (they said something along the lines of this happening when he fought the first hokage and the valley of the dead)

That was the “real” Madara. Madara lived long enough to meet Nagato and battle with the tsuchikage.


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not obito for sure

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