Z-Ro is very underrated because he raps about his life experiances and they are very relatable to anyone growing up in the south idk about the north but he is real.
UNDERRATED (these dudes dont get half the recognition they deserve)
. Common
. Talib Kweli
. Andre 3000 (Of Outkast)
OVERRATED (these dudes get too much credit, some dont deserve any)
. Lil Wayne (OBVIOUSLY!)
. 50 Cent & G-Unit
. Busta Rhymes (yall might disagree but i think so)
. 2pac (yea TUPAC, its true)
For yall who disagree, heres some reasons.
Oh my god, I already feel the people turn away in horror of what I just stated, BUT ITS TRUE!!! Pac is just an above average rapper with a lot of passion. I can name 10 rappers who have better lyrics than him and Pac’s beats are nothing special (an exception for some songs). Lets just compare 2pac with other rappers on the many categories of lyrics and see how he fares:
Vocabulary
2pac’s words were always easy and so even 4th graders can listen to him. Ras Kass, Jedi Mind Tricks, and Canibus are giants to a midget(2pac) in vocabulary.
Street Poetry
2pac is very well known for this but I don’t think anybody is better at this than Nas or Bone Thugs-n-Harmony. Mobb Deep, Common, and Jay-Z would even beat him here in my opinion.
Emotion
Pac is VERY emotional but there is no contest, DMX is the all-time champ.
Charisma
Ok this is what I like about 2pac, his charismatic delivery. But I’m sorry, I would have to give this to Biggie or Talib Kweli whose deliveries are the best ever in my book.
Storytelling
This may be a bit old school but the best storyteller is Slick Rick, NO DOUBT. Nas is very good at this (yes, Nas is my favorite rapper, that’s why I mention him a lot). Big L has some impressive tales too.
Introspect
Ok, here is something 2pac is good at. He probably has some of the best reflective songs ever but for some reason, after being thoughtful he goes and makes a song like “2 of Americaz Most Wanted” where Snoop joins him as they rap about being gangsters, which is why I first started to dismiss Pac as the greatest.
Wordplay
This is the reason why I think Biggie is better than 2pac. 2pac’s wordplay is just as good as Nelly’s (not saying much).
Metaphors
Anybody who has heard “Liquid Swords” knows that GZA was given the crown in '95 when he came out with that album.
Battle rapping
2 words: Canibus, PERIOD
The only categories that 2pac would come in the top 5 were street poetry, charisma, and introspect. He is not that great of a lyricist. I don’t mean to sound cynical but the only reason people perceive him and Biggie as the two greatest rappers is because they were feuding and then both got shot. 2pac is considered greater because he came out with all these posthumous albums (I didn’t think that any of these were good). People just listen to die hard fans of the mid-nineties and just assume that he is the best rapper ever and go out and download all of his songs, listen (not understand what he is saying), and go and say he’s the best. 2pac’s first three albums (2pacalypse now, Strictly 4 my N.*.G.G.A.Z., Me against the World) were excellent but he fell behind when he joined Deathrow. He became a “thug” and followed the gangster movement. After his death, he released a bunch of albums that prove to me that he would have went into decline had he not died.
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Last edited 20 Mar 2009 10:23 am by That Dude Moose E.B.
Moose E.B. wrote:
UNDERRATED (these dudes dont get half the recognition they deserve)
. Common
. Talib Kweli
. Andre 3000 (Of Outkast)
OVERRATED (these dudes get too much credit, some dont deserve any)
. Lil Wayne (OBVIOUSLY!)
. 50 Cent & G-Unit
. Busta Rhymes (yall might disagree but i think so)
. 2pac (yea TUPAC, its true)
For yall who disagree, heres some reasons.
Oh my god, I already feel the people turn away in horror of what I just stated, BUT ITS TRUE!!! Pac is just an above average rapper with a lot of passion. I can name 10 rappers who have better lyrics than him and Pac’s beats are nothing special (an exception for some songs). Lets just compare 2pac with other rappers on the many categories of lyrics and see how he fares:
Vocabulary
2pac’s words were always easy and so even 4th graders can listen to him. Ras Kass, Jedi Mind Tricks, and Canibus are giants to a midget(2pac) in vocabulary.
Street Poetry
2pac is very well known for this but I don’t think anybody is better at this than Nas or Bone Thugs-n-Harmony. Mobb Deep, Common, and Jay-Z would even beat him here in my opinion.
Emotion
Pac is VERY emotional but there is no contest, DMX is the all-time champ.
Charisma
Ok this is what I like about 2pac, his charismatic delivery. But I’m sorry, I would have to give this to Biggie or Talib Kweli whose deliveries are the best ever in my book.
Storytelling
This may be a bit old school but the best storyteller is Slick Rick, NO DOUBT. Nas is very good at this (yes, Nas is my favorite rapper, that’s why I mention him a lot). Big L has some impressive tales too.
Introspect
Ok, here is something 2pac is good at. He probably has some of the best reflective songs ever but for some reason, after being thoughtful he goes and makes a song like “2 of Americaz Most Wanted” where Snoop joins him as they rap about being gangsters, which is why I first started to dismiss Pac as the greatest.
Wordplay
This is the reason why I think Biggie is better than 2pac. 2pac’s wordplay is just as good as Nelly’s (not saying much).
Metaphors
Anybody who has heard “Liquid Swords” knows that GZA was given the crown in '95 when he came out with that album.
Battle rapping
2 words: Canibus, PERIOD
The only categories that 2pac would come in the top 5 were street poetry, charisma, and introspect. He is not that great of a lyricist. I don’t mean to sound cynical but the only reason people perceive him and Biggie as the two greatest rappers is because they were feuding and then both got shot. 2pac is considered greater because he came out with all these posthumous albums (I didn’t think that any of these were good). People just listen to die hard fans of the mid-nineties and just assume that he is the best rapper ever and go out and download all of his songs, listen (not understand what he is saying), and go and say he’s the best. 2pac’s first three albums (2pacalypse now, Strictly 4 my N.*.G.G.A.Z., Me against the World) were excellent but he fell behind when he joined Deathrow. He became a “thug” and followed the gangster movement. After his death, he released a bunch of albums that prove to me that he would have went into decline had he not died.
How can Talib,Common or Andre be underrated? I’ve never heard anybody say they weren’t good, and 50 Cent is overrated because nobody really considers him good anymore, and of course Wayne isn’t overrated because he’s the most innovative rapper out there today.
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50 is overrated, especially since he went to shit after The Massacre. As for Wayne, overrated. You want underrated, think of rappers that aren’t in the mainstream, those unheard of that come out with better shit than you hear on the radio.
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Raoul Duke wrote:
50 is overrated, especially since he went to shit after The Massacre. As for Wayne, overrated. You want underrated, think of rappers that aren’t in the mainstream, those unheard of that come out with better shit than you hear on the radio.
well yeh maybe common, andre 3000 n talib kweli arnt underrated...but they still dont get the full credit they deserve.
King John wrote:
and of course Wayne isn’t overrated because he’s the most innovative rapper out there today.
How is wayne the most innovative rapper do you even know what that words mean. His rhymes are shit, live performances are shit,rhymes about the same old shit money, cash and hoes (nothign inovative there) and uses that auto tune or watever the fuck. he wasnt the first artistand other artists use it.
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King John wrote:
and of course Wayne isn’t overrated because he’s the most innovative rapper out there today.
How is wayne the most innovative rapper do you even know what that words mean. His rhymes are shit, live performances are shit,rhymes about mmoney, cash and hoes (nothign inovative there) and uses that auto tone or watever the fuck. he wasnt the first to use it and other artists use it to.
basicly he’s a piss kydney.....straight up man
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Last edited 20 Mar 2009 01:59 pm by That Dude Moose E.B.
King John wrote:
and of course Wayne isn’t overrated because he’s the most innovative rapper out there today.
How is wayne the most innovative rapper do you even know what that words mean. His rhymes are shit, live performances are shit,rhymes about the same old shit money, cash and hoes (nothign inovative there) and uses that auto tune or watever the fuck. he wasnt the first artistand other artists use it.
He’s innovative because he’s doing things no other rappers are doing, he’s not a clone of somebody else like almost all other rappers are. I find it funny that the same people that say oh don’t listen to radio rap it sucks listen to deeper shit are the same people that are judging Wayne strictly by his radio shit. Listen to the rest of the album not just the singles, listen to his mix-tapes you’ll see how he’s doing things no other rapper is doing.
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Feet hanging out the window, jock my shoe game/// Cause all my kicks fly, like Liu Kang///
Lil Wayne - First Place Winner
Moose E.B. wrote:
wot yall think bout 2pac bein on ma overrated list?
I used to feel the same way about Tupac..I’d be like “well, his beats are nothing special,he has no hot lines..etc”..
Now,I realize that he IS one of the best to ever do it..Think of all the Amazing,meaningful songs he has..It takes a lot to make a radio hit,but it takes much more to make songs that can relate to different people all over the country...examples: Brenda’s Got a Baby”, Dear Mama, I Aint Mad Atcha,Changes, Still I Rise, Hail Mary..It’s not something your gonna realize right away, but eventually it’ll come to you...Probably if you start getting serious with writing and making music,you’ll see why Pac is one of the greatest.
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