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raep wrote:

...yes. they are.

are you just making up what you consider fact and opinion? because it doesn’t work that way.




No they’re not.

Here you go son: Dictionary meaning.

1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.

2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.

3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.

4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.

5. Law. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. Compare question of fact, question of law.




AND- Opinion:

1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.

2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion.

4. Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.

5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone’s good opinion.

6. a favorable estimate; esteem: I haven’t much of an opinion of him.


After reading the meanings, you could say the arguments of the existence AND nonexistence of ghosts could, somewhat be based on both fact ond opinion.


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Hell, for a ghost to exist it would need to be capable of independent thought, but you can’t have thought without a brain. Without a physical body not only would ghosts not be able to do anything people claim they do like interact with things, they’d be an actual impossibility (even energy consists of matter of some form).


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LeClairity wrote:

Goooglie give up. You’re arguing with Rape, the Troll formerly known as BallSac



I should know better not to debate with someone who is 100% sure that he knows it all.


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raep wrote: Hell, for a ghost to exist it would need to be capable of independent thought, but you can’t have thought without a brain. Without a physical body not only would ghosts not be able to do anything people claim they do like interact with things, they’d be an actual impossibility (even energy consists of matter of some form).


Unless you believe in those wacky magical things called spirits that LIVE in you.

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raep wrote:

LeClairity wrote:

GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:

raep wrote:

The fact that just about every picture of a ghost is either photoshop or using a camera that absorbs light slowly to leave a ghostly image.

The fact that every time something is attributed to the work of ghosts, we find out later there’s an actual rational explanation behind it.

The fact that despite people who will tell you of their encounters with ghosts (ignoring the possibility of them simply lying through their teeth), the human brain is very good causing hallucinations.

The fact that there’s no such thing as ghosts.




Those are not facts. smiley



Goooglie give up. You’re arguing with Rape, the Troll formerly known as BallSac



I’m not trolling. I am saying with 100% certainty ghosts do not exist, and anyone who thinks they do is either insanely gullible or insanely crazy.



uh huh and you are such an authority on anything, let alone this, right?


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GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote: 1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.

2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.

3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.

4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.

5. Law. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. Compare question of fact, question of law.



Awesome, let’s go over what I said again:

“The fact that just about every picture of a ghost is either photoshop or using a camera that absorbs light slowly to leave a ghostly image."

-Fact, see definition 2

“The fact that every time something is attributed to the work of ghosts, we find out later there’s an actual rational explanation behind it."

-Fact, see definition 3

“The fact that despite people who will tell you of their encounters with ghosts (ignoring the possibility of them simply lying through their teeth), the human brain is very good causing hallucinations."

-Fact, see definition 2

“The fact that there’s no such thing as ghosts."

See definition 1.


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King Boo wrote:

raep wrote: Hell, for a ghost to exist it would need to be capable of independent thought, but you can’t have thought without a brain. Without a physical body not only would ghosts not be able to do anything people claim they do like interact with things, they’d be an actual impossibility (even energy consists of matter of some form).


Unless you believe in those wacky magical things called spirits that LIVE in you.


That would be souls.
We have spirits,we ARE souls(according to most faiths.)


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LeClairity wrote:

raep wrote:

LeClairity wrote:

GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:

raep wrote:

The fact that just about every picture of a ghost is either photoshop or using a camera that absorbs light slowly to leave a ghostly image.

The fact that every time something is attributed to the work of ghosts, we find out later there’s an actual rational explanation behind it.

The fact that despite people who will tell you of their encounters with ghosts (ignoring the possibility of them simply lying through their teeth), the human brain is very good causing hallucinations.

The fact that there’s no such thing as ghosts.




Those are not facts. smiley



Goooglie give up. You’re arguing with Rape, the Troll formerly known as BallSac



I’m not trolling. I am saying with 100% certainty ghosts do not exist, and anyone who thinks they do is either insanely gullible or insanely crazy.



uh huh and you are such an authority on anything, let alone this, right?



I think that I and anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together is a sufficient authority on what can and can not physically exist.


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The Surfer wrote:

King Boo wrote:

raep wrote: Hell, for a ghost to exist it would need to be capable of independent thought, but you can’t have thought without a brain. Without a physical body not only would ghosts not be able to do anything people claim they do like interact with things, they’d be an actual impossibility (even energy consists of matter of some form).


Unless you believe in those wacky magical things called spirits that LIVE in you.


That would be souls.
We have spirits,we ARE souls(according to most faiths.)



Spirit and soul are used interchangeably and both are bullshit.


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raep wrote:
Spirit and soul are used interchangeably and both are bullshit.




No you’re bullshit.

Everyone’s entitled to their own beliefs and faith .. the belief of God exists or not, the belief that Ghosts exist or not.. despite the “so called facts”, it’s their beliefs and their entitled to them.


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GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:

raep wrote:
Spirit and soul are used interchangeably and both are bullshit.




No you’re bullshit.

Everyone’s entitled to their own beliefs and faith .. the belief of God exists or not, the belief that Ghosts exist or not.. despite the “so called facts”, it’s their beliefs and their entitled to them.



Yes, they’re entitled to them.

It doesn’t make them any less false, though.


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raep wrote:

GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:

raep wrote:
Spirit and soul are used interchangeably and both are bullshit.




No you’re bullshit.

Everyone’s entitled to their own beliefs and faith .. the belief of God exists or not, the belief that Ghosts exist or not.. despite the “so called facts”, it’s their beliefs and their entitled to them.



Yes, they’re entitled to them.

It doesn’t make them any less false, though.




and you calling them false doesn’t make them any more true either, so right back atcha' buddy.


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GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:

raep wrote:

GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:

raep wrote:
Spirit and soul are used interchangeably and both are bullshit.




No you’re bullshit.

Everyone’s entitled to their own beliefs and faith .. the belief of God exists or not, the belief that Ghosts exist or not.. despite the “so called facts”, it’s their beliefs and their entitled to them.



Yes, they’re entitled to them.

It doesn’t make them any less false, though.




and you calling them false doesn’t make them any more true either, so right back atcha' buddy.



yes, me calling their beliefs false does not make their beliefs any more true.

glad we could agree on something.


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raep wrote:



yes, me calling their beliefs false does not make their beliefs any more true.

glad we could agree on something.




yessss but you saying ones beliefs are false does not make them change them any,

“oh ghosts must NOT exist because reap said so.. he has 2 brain cells to rub together so I must listen!"



... not so much


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GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:

raep wrote:



yes, me calling their beliefs false does not make their beliefs any more true.

glad we could agree on something.




yessss but you saying ones beliefs are false does not make them change them any,

“oh ghosts must NOT exist because reap said so.. he has 2 brain cells to rub together so I must listen!"



... not so much



I know I can’t change people’s beliefs, but I’m perfectly content knowing that they’re false and they can’t offer a shred of evidence to prove me wrong.


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raep wrote:

I know I can’t change people’s beliefs, but I’m perfectly content knowing that they’re false and they can’t offer a shred of evidence to prove me wrong.



Just as you cannot offer any hard evidence that you’re right either.


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Rosputin wrote: Yeah, I know the third is real, I never seen those other pics til now.


Have any info bout the 3rd pic? Kinda curious to know everything biut it.


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Rosputin wrote: Actually, the experience I had was recurring dreams as a child, about an old lady I would refer to as 'Night' I would have dreams like this 2-3 a week, old lady in random setting, staring at me, all of these were traumatic nightmares. I didn’t take it seriously. It all stopped after a year and a half. Now recently I found out my Grandmother on my dad’s side(she was a short old, dark lady), I didn’t know her because at that time I was a baby, well she died in my house when I was a baby and the woman in my dreams matches her description. Sometimes as a child I would see stuff in the house no one else would see. Like Shadows disappearing and reappearing, big dark hand covers my face and disappears, it’s weird and a bit indescribable. . quite sadly no one ever listened to me, this all stopped as I grew older.



"..that no one was listening to you when you tried to tell them . That in itself is a nitemare”

Would be very disconcerting.

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An awkward thing to try to make sense of at the time, I’m sure... and of course, as 'her majesty' mentioned, the most difficult part being, to have to go through it without any help or solace from trusted adults. -Though maybe fortunate also, in that it would have probably been a lot more traumatic, had it happened later in your life.

Anyway, glad to hear you’ve since been able to find some resolution and coherence surrounding those memories and experiences.

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n btw ive been in a room with a ghost before never saw it though.

i cant be assed to tell ya the story... i think ive already told it on another thread.

ive seen a ufo & witnesssed a ghost. im the chosen one...


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