Gay marriage and abortions

Two things that are being debated a lot lately. What’s your feeling on them?

Gay marriage - for. Although I can also understand why some people feel there should be a “different term altogether”.

Abortion.....personally against. However, I also believe in a woman’s right to decide. So a grey area really.

I am against them. I don’t like gay marriage its just wrong and against what God intended. So are abortions, its no different from killing someone.

Well I am for gay marriage because it’s kind of in the constitution for the whole “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Not to mention I don’t see why people think it’s so evil, especially if it doesn’t effect them at all.

But, as a member of the Regressive Party, my stance on abortion is as follows:



Hah. Actually I am for abortion too.

Manchester Black wrote: I am against them. I don’t like gay marriage its just wrong and against what God intended. So are abortions, its no different from killing someone.

Those abortions could be used for stem cell research and actually save lives. You would be saving a lot more people than you would kill. Besides, the chance of an infant surviving past 5 years of age or even birth aren’t as high as they used to be. Besides, how do you know if Christianity is the way, or if there really is a God? You shouldn’t be debating this kind of thing with the guessing game.

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ramunematt wrote:

Manchester Black wrote: I am against them. I don’t like gay marriage its just wrong and against what God intended. So are abortions, its no different from killing someone.

Those abortions could be used for stem cell research and actually save lives. You would be saving a lot more people than you would kill. Besides, the chance of an infant surviving past 5 years of age or even birth aren’t as high as they used to be. Besides, how do you know if Christianity is the way, or if there really is a God? You shouldn’t be debating this kind of thing with the guessing game.

ramunematt let’s not bring religion into the game shall we? Also he never said he was Christian, Christians aren’t the only ones who believe in God.

Atresac wrote:

ramunematt wrote:

Manchester Black wrote: I am against them. I don’t like gay marriage its just wrong and against what God intended. So are abortions, its no different from killing someone.

Those abortions could be used for stem cell research and actually save lives. You would be saving a lot more people than you would kill. Besides, the chance of an infant surviving past 5 years of age or even birth aren’t as high as they used to be. Besides, how do you know if Christianity is the way, or if there really is a God? You shouldn’t be debating this kind of thing with the guessing game.

ramunematt let’s not bring religion into the game shall we? Also he never said he was Christian, Christians aren’t the only ones who believe in God.

But they are strongly against abortions. It was just an assumption.

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ramunematt wrote:
Those abortions could be used for stem cell research and actually save lives. You would be saving a lot more people than you would kill.

Even if this is true, abortion is still wrong. Would you have preferred your mother abort you for stem cell research?

ramunematt wrote:
Besides, the chance of an infant surviving past 5 years of age or even birth aren’t as high as they used to be.

There are also chances of them still surviving.

ramunematt wrote:
Besides, how do you know if Christianity is the way, or if there really is a God?

Simple, I was raised that way so I don’t use any other christianity.Of course I don’t really do everything they say and don’t act like one, I just strongly believe in God.

ramunematt wrote:
You shouldn’t be debating this kind of thing with the guessing game.

Didn’t you kind of use the guessing game with the infants don’t survive past 5 years thing?

Look, I would appreciate if we keep religion out of this? If you guys want to back to threads made in January to discuss religion. This is about whether they should be legal or illegal, and if religion is your support please don’t bring it here.

Atresac wrote: Well I am for gay marriage because it’s kind of in the constitution for the whole “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Not to mention I don’t see why people think it’s so evil, especially if it doesn’t effect them at all.

I actually should probably reword it. I don’t mind gays(I’m cool with one gay guy and two lesbians)I just can’t stand to say some of the same sex together. I really hope they change their ways in the future.LOL, I’m debating against gay marriage but said it would be good to see Tifa and Morrigan do it.

Atresac wrote:
But, as a member of the Regressive Party, my stance on abortion is as follows:



Hah. Actually I am for abortion too.

Don’t worry,its your opinion I’m not against you.

Manchester Black wrote:

ramunematt wrote:
Those abortions could be used for stem cell research and actually save lives. You would be saving a lot more people than you would kill.

Even if this is true, abortion is still wrong. Would you have preferred your mother abort you for stem cell research?

ramunematt wrote:
Besides, the chance of an infant surviving past 5 years of age or even birth aren’t as high as they used to be.

There are also chances of them still surviving.

ramunematt wrote:
Besides, how do you know if Christianity is the way, or if there really is a God?

Simple, I was raised that way so I don’t use any other christianity.

ramunematt wrote:
You shouldn’t be debating this kind of thing with the guessing game.

Didn’t you kind of use the guessing game with the infants don’t survive past 5 years thing?

1. How do you know what is truely right and wrong? What you might think is morally wrong might be morally right for other people

2. Even if they survive, it might of not been as helpful as if they were used for stem cell research. Stem cell research could someday provide cures for diseases that people all around the world are suffering from. What if a baby who was not aborted turned out to have that disease or turned out to have a horrible life?

3. It would be great if you could elaborate more on that

4. No I didn’t use the guessing game because it’s a fact that everyday 30,000 children die before reaching age 5 http://www.childinfo.org/areas/childmortality/

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Atresac wrote: Look, I would appreciate if we keep religion out of this? If you guys want to back to threads made in January to discuss religion. This is about whether they should be legal or illegal, and if religion is your support please don’t bring it here.

Alright, I’ll keep religon out of this. Now as I said in my most recent post, I have no problem with gays(as long as the guys don’t come on to me). I just can’t really understand why you would like someone of the same sex. As for abortion the only time I think it should be done is when the mother is to young or has a chance of dying if she gives birth.

Personally I think it would be wise for teen parents to have abortions rather than give birth. The Earth is getting more and more overpopulated and teenagers don’t know how to raise a kid. With abortions they can not get themselves into parenthood, they can not contribute to overpopulation, and they can help people.

Manchester Black wrote:

Atresac wrote: Look, I would appreciate if we keep religion out of this? If you guys want to back to threads made in January to discuss religion. This is about whether they should be legal or illegal, and if religion is your support please don’t bring it here.

Alright, I’ll keep religon out of this. Now as I said in my most recent post, I have no problem with gays(as long as the guys don’t come on to me). I just can’t really understand why you would like someone of the same sex. As for abortion the only time I think it should be done is when the mother is to young or has a chance of dying if she gives birth.

Well normally you don’t have to worry about guys coming onto you since they have something called “gaydar”. Also I believe that homosexuality is genetic.

ramunematt wrote:
1. How do you know what is truely right and wrong? What you might think is morally wrong might be morally right for other people

I said it was wrong because, its my opinion. I don’t know about others.

ramunematt wrote:
2. Even if they survive, it might of not been as helpful as if they were used for stem cell research. Stem cell research could someday provide cures for diseases that people all around the world are suffering from. What if a baby who was not aborted turned out to have that disease or turned out to have a horrible life?

Your still playing the guessing game. And what if that same baby that was aborted turned out to not have any problems and would have lived a good life?

ramunematt wrote:
3. It would be great if you could elaborate more on that

Asterec asked to keep religon out, I’m not going to mention it anymore.

ramunematt wrote:
4. No I didn’t use the guessing game because it’s a fact that everyday 30,000 children die before reaching age 5 http://www.childinfo.org/areas/childmortality/

And I’ve seen to where a good majority of children born live. Anyway I’m about to go Christmas shopping so I won’t be responding for a while.

ramunematt wrote:

Manchester Black wrote:

ramunematt wrote:
Those abortions could be used for stem cell research and actually save lives. You would be saving a lot more people than you would kill.

Even if this is true, abortion is still wrong. Would you have preferred your mother abort you for stem cell research?

ramunematt wrote:
Besides, the chance of an infant surviving past 5 years of age or even birth aren’t as high as they used to be.

There are also chances of them still surviving.

ramunematt wrote:
Besides, how do you know if Christianity is the way, or if there really is a God?

Simple, I was raised that way so I don’t use any other christianity.

ramunematt wrote:
You shouldn’t be debating this kind of thing with the guessing game.

Didn’t you kind of use the guessing game with the infants don’t survive past 5 years thing?

1. How do you know what is truely right and wrong? What you might think is morally wrong might be morally right for other people

2. Even if they survive, it might of not been as helpful as if they were used for stem cell research. Stem cell research could someday provide cures for diseases that people all around the world are suffering from. What if a baby who was not aborted turned out to have that disease or turned out to have a horrible life?

3. It would be great if you could elaborate more on that

4. No I didn’t use the guessing game because it’s a fact that everyday 30,000 children die before reaching age 5 http://www.childinfo.org/areas/childmortality/

Can we really judge at birth if a person may have a “horrible” life? While different cultures may hold different moral beliefs, a common thread runs through all of them: Murder is wrong. Would you will to live in a world that allows for the murder of innocent people in order to medically aid the ill? What if that person chosen to die was yourself? When did humanity decide it may choose which members may live or die? Just something to think about...

Atresac wrote:

Manchester Black wrote:

Atresac wrote: Look, I would appreciate if we keep religion out of this? If you guys want to back to threads made in January to discuss religion. This is about whether they should be legal or illegal, and if religion is your support please don’t bring it here.

Alright, I’ll keep religon out of this. Now as I said in my most recent post, I have no problem with gays(as long as the guys don’t come on to me). I just can’t really understand why you would like someone of the same sex. As for abortion the only time I think it should be done is when the mother is to young or has a chance of dying if she gives birth.

Well normally you don’t have to worry about guys coming onto you since they have something called “gaydar”. Also I believe that homosexuality is genetic.

New studies point both to genetics and upbringing. I believe in a mesh of the two as I can’t believe that sexuality is predetermined.

well I believe it might be a recessive gene. So like, onli 1/4 of people will be homosexual.

I’m agaist gay marriage. I dont care if people are gay but I dont think it is right for them to legally get married.

I’m also agaist abortion how would you feel if your mother aborted you?

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Aaron McKay wrote: I’m agaist gay marriage. I dont care if people are gay but I dont think it is right for them to legally get married.

I’m also agaist abortion how would you feel if your mother aborted you?

I wouldn’t feel anything at all.