Who here dose not agree that The Flash is faster than Sonic

sonic is a hedgehog...

jomas the grunt wrote: sonic is a hedgehog...

NOPE he’s a scorpion

I SOLD MY SOUL 2 THE DEVIL WHEN I WUS 4 BITCHES

ROCKAXE666-thefuckinDEATH-GOD wrote:

jomas the grunt wrote: sonic is a hedgehog...

NOPE he’s a scorpion

really?
at first i thought he was a walrus

Wrongh, sonci can win this not because he’s cool, but because of the powers he exhibited in sonci X, able to use speed, similar to smallville/clockstyoppersa



Also, SOnic 's general limit was 800mph, faster than sopund, whic his 760 at sea level...

However, Sonic i nrcent times has broken this by far, and gone up to speeds s ofast, objects stop, as if he had just chosen to use chaos control

btw, Chaos Control is instant checkmate for flash, but anyway

Flash cant' hit lightspeed anymore ,or else the speedforce attacks him...

Technically, SONIC HAS THE LIGHT SPEED ATTACK, OUTSIDE OF REACHING SIMILAR SPEEDS NORMALLY( he almost never does this) .....and, if we talk about Super SOnic.....

so, he’s not faster..

and Super SOnci woudl probabgly exceed him by far

flash is faster

n00b fanboys. Base Sonic is faster the light. Can control all his monocules like the flash just by seeing his favorite comic character do it. Ask me for scans, i dare you fanboys.

it has been seen in the comics that sonic without his super form he can run faster than the speed of light. yes light. Sonic basically has limitless speed. Sonic having a topend in the games were just for gameplay reasons. How would you go about making a stage where he going faster than light the whole time. Sonic beat flash many times over.

Super Sonic was faster than Burning Blaze, who was approximately 20x FTL, due to her having a feat Similar to current Superman. (escaping from black hole)
This is based on the game Sonic rush


So Super Sonic is >20x FTL with out Chaos Control. With it, well lets take things into perspective shall we?

Supra, you remember paradox from Ben 10 alien force? He lives “outside” of time and thus he can move backwards and forwards that throughout time in the blink of an eye.

Or as I discussed with Never Give Up, Zoom from DC comics has the ability to outrun the Flash with his ability to make an alternate timeline. His base speed however is really only average human. So imagine Zoom moving at 20x FTL along with his ability to create an alternate timeline, and thats Super Sonic at max.

Sound DBZ logic cannot be destroyed; the efforts of the so-called super elite will always be in vain. Have at thee Krom!

Now the reason why Sonic in any incarnation is about hypersonic speed is usually due to game mechanics. But he also has CIS reasons,

1. To allow Tails, Knuckles, and whatever ally he has to be able to keep up with him.
(a consistent motif in Sonic media is him grabbing his friends arms and pulling them along if they aren’t “moving fast enough”
Specifically the opening cut scene in Sonic Heroes

2.He likes a challenge.

Sound DBZ logic cannot be destroyed; the efforts of the so-called super elite will always be in vain. Have at thee Krom!

....:notices:

what? not this again...

i c i swept thru this topic a year ago, haha

i wanted to run like sonic the hedgehog and flash in incredibles because i wanred to run fast and have a secret identity to be a super hero and it means alot to me if u answer thi message!?!

Allright, now, Let me- I’ll just address things like this, we need a constructive debate,


#1. Sonic. Yes i am using the archie comics mainly, but LISTEN CLOSELY people.

SOnic’s old speed limit was 800mph..this was way back in the dang day


TOday

Hyper Sonic? THat is false. You have confused Sonic’s old form

If the average reader doesnt follow, let me explain

Sonic in the game Sonic the hedgehog 3, and the add on pack Sonic and Knuckles(making SOnic 3 and Knuckles when plugged in) had an additional form other than his infamous SUper Sonic form. That form was Hyper Sonic and was my avatar for a long time. It’s still on my account page , if you want a visual.

That is the highest superform Sonic has taken, acquired by unlocking the SUPER EMERALDS >I know because i did it on Sonic Mega COllection for the gamecube.

NOW< there is a difference between the definition of Supersonic speed(764 miles per hour at groudn level, closer to 660 35000+ ft altitude upwards- remember im a physics major and know this off the top of my head)

And Hyper Sonic - the CORRECT definition of it-is Mach 5+.

As opposed to Sonic’s Hyper Sonic form, a form which back then was beyong Super Sonic(Hyper Sonic has not appeared since, being phased ut as Super Sonic’s power increased)


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Okay, ROund 2,

Sonic’s true speed.

First, anyone who has played Sonic Adventure, Sonic adventure 2, etc(shadow, Sonic heroes, Sonic 06) will know SOnic is past Mach 7 easily.


Why? The light speed DASH is in all those games. Oh, and in some of them(Sonic adventure/2/DX/Battle) the light speed attack exists. Oh, for those of you who didn’t finish the game like i did, SONIC HEROES has the light speed attack. Not the team attack, the real light speed attack

what does ^ mean? Well, a ligh speed move- ....and you want to tell me that Sonic is only hyper sonic?



Now, i’ll get serious. Sonic’s true top speed. His MAX, okay guys?

As a disclaimer, Chaos COntrol warps time and space, and if he has “stopped time” for himself, he’s moving at infintie speed via moving ANY distance with the timer staying 0. Provided he chooses to do that. Thats not his real max speed.


Sonic’s max speed- This has occured twice, and i have COVERED this before.

As far as i am aware timeline wise, this first occured in the comics. Doesn’t matter

A. In the archie comic Hypersonic #134, Sonic finally revealed his highest speeds. There were two missiles headed in opposite directions on a continent, that he had to stop. He needed to save the day, so he pulled out his True top speed, and ran so fast- Time stopped. He then proceeded to cream one missle , then went all the way to the other and took it out, with a side-effect! Sonic had trouble getting out of this mode. Sonic had to use methods liek trainspotting to help himself get unstuck from this speed.


Sonic X- Sonic had two real races with Chrus’s uncle and Sonic’s first met rival o n the show. Sam Speed.

In the first race, Sonic tapped a bit into his true power, in a race where Sam accelerated ahead of him. Sam mutters” the only way he can beat me now- is if he goes supersonic”

Then, Sonic accelerates, then run FORWARD, using speed on such a sheer level that Sam seems STOPPED to him as he passes by. Sam barely notices sonic, mainly startled by the ridiculous sonic boom.


#2. Their last official 2nd race. it was a whole episode. At the end, Sam is in a special rocket car. What does he do? he activates some sort of power generator, while neck-and neck with sonic and approaching the finishing line, and ZOOMs ahead, supersonically.

Sonic seems him pull away, and then struggles, and ...really strains and pulls his max speed. he seems to dash ahead.

THey seem to hit the finish line at the same time.

WHat was revelaed that really happened? sonic moved so fast, he hopped the finish line, ran into the stadum and bleachers, showed off to slow-mo cameras(he had to wait till they finally took a pic), then hopped back down, onto the racetrack, and INSTANTLY accelerated from that point, and then gave a encore performance and tied the race. And no one saw him until the cameras had shots of him showing off posing in a world no one , including a guy who had just broken the sound barrier and seemingly tied sonic, could see.




Yes i can show episodes. I might do so, but the point is- all 3 of these events were depictions of his real non-cc speed.


And some say he is only hypersonic at best- I could use a commonly touted point on loungmoviecodec about him excaping a black hole that light could not escape, but i wont go there.


So, what does sonic have? a. the power to reach speeds where he covers ANY distance with no time passing. With or without CC. CC is just him doing wat he wants with time. But without it, he can strain himself and use his own power to do thi.

b. cc.''

c. his independent light speed moves. Hence, LIGHT SPEED MOVES..

and that missile time, in Hyper Sonic 134- that was him in his base form, hitting infinite speed. Not Super Sonic. So yes, i was talking about base sonic. Moving WAY , way, way past light speed.

Normal Sonic has slightly more speed feats

Allright, now, Let me- I’ll just address things like this, we need a constructive debate,


#1. Sonic. Yes i am using the archie comics mainly, but LISTEN CLOSELY people.

SOnic’s old speed limit was 800mph..this was way back in the dang day


TOday

Hyper Sonic? THat is false. You have confused Sonic’s old form

If the average reader doesnt follow, let me explain

Sonic in the game Sonic the hedgehog 3, and the add on pack Sonic and Knuckles(making SOnic 3 and Knuckles when plugged in) had an additional form other than his infamous SUper Sonic form. That form was Hyper Sonic and was my avatar for a long time. It’s still on my account page , if you want a visual.

That is the highest superform Sonic has taken, acquired by unlocking the SUPER EMERALDS >I know because i did it on Sonic Mega COllection for the gamecube.

NOW< there is a difference between the definition of Supersonic speed(764 miles per hour at groudn level, closer to 660 35000+ ft altitude upwards- remember im a physics major and know this off the top of my head)

And Hyper Sonic - the CORRECT definition of it-is Mach 5+.

As opposed to Sonic’s Hyper Sonic form, a form which back then was beyong Super Sonic(Hyper Sonic has not appeared since, being phased ut as Super Sonic’s power increased)


K, still following guys? If you’ve managed to follow so far, you get a cookie.


Okay, ROund 2,

Sonic’s true speed.

First, anyone who has played Sonic Adventure, Sonic adventure 2, etc(shadow, Sonic heroes, Sonic 06) will know SOnic is past Mach 7 easily.


Why? The light speed DASH is in all those games. Oh, and in some of them(Sonic adventure/2/DX/Battle) the light speed attack exists. Oh, for those of you who didn’t finish the game like i did, SONIC HEROES has the light speed attack. Not the team attack, the real light speed attack

what does ^ mean? Well, a ligh speed move- ....and you want to tell me that Sonic is only hyper sonic?



Now, i’ll get serious. Sonic’s true top speed. His MAX, okay guys?

As a disclaimer, Chaos COntrol warps time and space, and if he has “stopped time” for himself, he’s moving at infintie speed via moving ANY distance with the timer staying 0. Provided he chooses to do that. Thats not his real max speed.


Sonic’s max speed- This has occured twice, and i have COVERED this before.

As far as i am aware timeline wise, this first occured in the comics. Doesn’t matter

A. In the archie comic Hypersonic #134, Sonic finally revealed his highest speeds. There were two missiles headed in opposite directions on a continent, that he had to stop. He needed to save the day, so he pulled out his True top speed, and ran so fast- Time stopped. He then proceeded to cream one missle , then went all the way to the other and took it out, with a side-effect! Sonic had trouble getting out of this mode. Sonic had to use methods liek trainspotting to help himself get unstuck from this speed.


Sonic X- Sonic had two real races with Chrus’s uncle and Sonic’s first met rival o n the show. Sam Speed.

In the first race, Sonic tapped a bit into his true power, in a race where Sam accelerated ahead of him. Sam mutters” the only way he can beat me now- is if he goes supersonic”

Then, Sonic accelerates, then run FORWARD, using speed on such a sheer level that Sam seems STOPPED to him as he passes by. Sam barely notices sonic, mainly startled by the ridiculous sonic boom.


#2. Their last official 2nd race. it was a whole episode. At the end, Sam is in a special rocket car. What does he do? he activates some sort of power generator, while neck-and neck with sonic and approaching the finishing line, and ZOOMs ahead, supersonically.

Sonic seems him pull away, and then struggles, and ...really strains and pulls his max speed. he seems to dash ahead.

THey seem to hit the finish line at the same time.

WHat was revelaed that really happened? sonic moved so fast, he hopped the finish line, ran into the stadum and bleachers, showed off to slow-mo cameras(he had to wait till they finally took a pic), then hopped back down, onto the racetrack, and INSTANTLY accelerated from that point, and then gave a encore performance and tied the race. And no one saw him until the cameras had shots of him showing off posing in a world no one , including a guy who had just broken the sound barrier and seemingly tied sonic, could see.




Yes i can show episodes. I might do so, but the point is- all 3 of these events were depictions of his real non-cc speed.


And some say he is only hypersonic at best- I could use a commonly touted point on loungmoviecodec about him excaping a black hole that light could not escape, but i wont go there.


So, what does sonic have? a. the power to reach speeds where he covers ANY distance with no time passing. With or without CC. CC is just him doing wat he wants with time. But without it, he can strain himself and use his own power to do thi.

b. cc.''

c. his independent light speed moves. Hence, LIGHT SPEED MOVES..

and that missile time, in Hyper Sonic 134- that was him in his base form, hitting infinite speed. Not Super Sonic. So yes, i was talking about base sonic. Moving WAY , way, way past light speed.

Normal Sonic has slightly more speed feats