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I’m going to seem spam-ish now because I had to make a topic on topics that have already been locked.

But I wanted to give an opinion too...
Just because the “issue” was resolved by locking the “eating 3rd world children” doesn’t mean we can’t still add our two cents to the issue.
I’m not mad or anything GN, I just wanted to add something but certainly didn’t want to make a new topic for it.

So I guess what I’m tying to say is...sorry for making a new topic but I think it’s a legit discussion to have.

So having said all that:

This thread is about topics in poor taste and the tolerance thereof


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So a topic on eating third world children was locked due to members finding the content in poor taste.
I do agree it was in poor taste, but I posted myself (though did point out that I did not actually find it funny).
What I don’t understand is why that thread was locked when others have remained open?
There have been countless topics subjectifying women for example, but the idea that it might be offensive never comes into question.

If the topic under question read “how do you eat children”
I doubt very much that there would have been the same reaction…but why should that be any less offensive? Are children in “third world” counties deserving of more respect then children in general?

I guess this topic is pointless because from the look of it was more a personal choice of Etains to lock the original.

I guess I just wanted to point out that the move was hypocritical, not that the thread itself should remain open.


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Ahh..

Very well.

I’m just in a bad mood, having gotten about 7 messages in my PM box about locking that thread, and punishing the people who posted in it. Which isn’t really even necessary.


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I disagree
it’s not about the 3rd world children getting more respect but actually deserving it a lot more

now I wanted locked because of a very logical reason

and I don’t get tired of saying this

racist behavior like that feeds courage to then post topics like these:

“How to have sex with third world children”
“How to overwork third world children”

now I know this is already staring to take effect
a member posted

“3rd world children with boners”

Is that appropriate?
no it’s not

aside from being offensive it denigrates MvC face to new members

it rots and gives MvC a bad look

that’s the reason this place is DYING!!


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I don’t think “third world” children deserve more respect then other children.
In fact I find that view to be racist.
When you value one race, sex, nationality over others, or feel one should have more rights or respect, that is being racist.


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no I don’t mean it that way, but how u mock ppl
who r suffering and in pain just for plain fun


those ppl hurt their backs sowing and making the clothes we all wear
yet u MAKE FUN OF them?

by saying how it’s okay to eat them?

like Pain
said I dare u to hold a starving children look him in the eyes and then eat him, insult him, treat him with the so great respect u r right now...


those ppl now about pain and all of that crap

y? cuz external affairs that have fucked up their governments, their country.

those same affairs that are keeping u warm in that chilling winter THEY have to go through in messed up clothes while working their guts off to feed their starving families

NOW U DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO MOCK THEM IN ANY FUCKING WAY!!!!


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I posted it in the other thread, I’ll post it in this one.

Cid wrote: I’m just going to throw my two cents in here.

The thread is not racist, I can’t see how it can even be considered racist. Etain’s locking it was her own decision, but after reviewing the thread, I can see no real reason to have it locked at all. It’s, as said, in poor taste, but so are the countless number of topics created to degrade a particular member.

Honestly, the topic should have remained open, and if another is created, I advise against locking it because it’s really just a personal view that you, pain, and Etain seem to share. Speaking strictly from site rules, nothing is wrong with that thread.

If you don’t like what’s in it, don’t post in it.

Plain and simple as that.


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zeta_evolved wrote: no I don’t mean it that way, but how u mock ppl
who r suffering and in pain just for plain fun


those ppl hurt their backs sowing and making the clothes we all wear
yet u MAKE FUN OF them?

by saying how it’s okay to eat them?

like Pain
said I dare u to hold a starving children look him in the eyes and then eat him, insult him, treat him with the so great respect u r right now...


those ppl now about pain and all of that crap

y? cuz external affairs that have fucked up their governments, their country.

those same affairs that are keeping u warm in that chilling winter THEY have to go through in messed up clothes while working their guts off to feed their starving families

NOW U DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO MOCK THEM IN ANY FUCKING WAY!!!!



I....hope you’re not yelling at me.

I went and volunteered in Africa for 5 weeks (which isn’t long but I didn’t have the money to stay longer), I met the most amazing children there and have seen some of the most gut wrenching situations.

Don’t lecture me.


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Now haveing said the above....


If I had a magic wand to make everyone here more respectful and considerate I would use it.
It’s hard, because it’s difficult to tell when a member is expressing true ignorance and cruelness or not.


I have a good number of friends who joke about race all the time. But we joke about it because it’s a nonissue. We know we’re different from each other and we love it.

Now the eating children idea is pretty bad (regardless of where their from), but interestingly enough it’s brought into question our own ideas about censorship.
That topic was locked because it’s considered a “faux pas” by many members. Not because in reality it is any more or less offensive then some other topics.

Its the internet so we don’t really know each other and you can’t get the same feel for a persons position as you can in real life.


I dunno...I just thought it was worth discussing.


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Cid wrote: I posted it in the other thread, I’ll post it in this one.

Cid wrote: I’m just going to throw my two cents in here.

The thread is not racist, I can’t see how it can even be considered racist. Etain’s locking it was her own decision, but after reviewing the thread, I can see no real reason to have it locked at all. It’s, as said, in poor taste, but so are the countless number of topics created to degrade a particular member.

Honestly, the topic should have remained open, and if another is created, I advise against locking it because it’s really just a personal view that you, pain, and Etain seem to share. Speaking strictly from site rules, nothing is wrong with that thread.

If you don’t like what’s in it, don’t post in it.

Plain and simple as that.



I was considering quoting it and responding to it here, I’m glad you moved it yourself smiley


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it pisses me off that ppl

just go around thinking they can make fun of someone just because it’s funny

I despise those ppl if that’s wat u can call them


and also how the mods and everyone wants MvC to thrive to be huge but with that behavior?

who that fuck do u think u can fool?

if not when I advertised MvC at yahoo answers they answer posting a link to one of our topics

saying and I quote

“but if it’s filled with respect and intelligence”
and the link guess which...


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zeta_evolved wrote: and also how the mods and everyone wants MvC to thrive to be huge but with that behavior?



Wrong, it’s that kinda stuff that could potentially draw in crowds and allow for debates, brings people out of curiosity, and brings people to protest against it.

The only thing that’s keeping the forum from thriving are renegade members who constantly break the rules and refuse to leave the forum in peace and end up starting huge messes of problems.


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treeplanter wrote: Now haveing said the above....


If I had a magic wand to make everyone here more respectful and considerate I would use it.
It’s hard, because it’s difficult to tell when a member is expressing true ignorance and cruelness or not.


I have a good number of friends who joke about race all the time. But we joke about it because it’s a nonissue. We know we’re different from each other and we love it.

Now the eating children idea is pretty bad (regardless of where their from), but interestingly enough it’s brought into question our own ideas about censorship.
That topic was locked because it’s considered a “faux pas” by many members. Not because in reality it is any more or less offensive then some other topics.

Its the internet so we don’t really know each other and you can’t get the same feel for a persons position as you can in real life.


I dunno...I just thought it was worth discussing.



I get that, u can’t keep everything clean and shiney but u can try

but u just don’t make fun of something u know jack shit about u just don’t and when u let the responsible party keep on bringing such stupid remarks bad things start to happen

I mean “third world children with boners”
wat kind of post if that I mean answer me?


I’m also looking for MvC’s wellbeing I love this place, I love posting here and I see how it’s dying very slowly and to post things like that they just scare off members that CAN keep this site alive for a long time to come


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Cid wrote:

zeta_evolved wrote: and also how the mods and everyone wants MvC to thrive to be huge but with that behavior?



Wrong, it’s that kinda stuff that could potentially draw in crowds and allow for debates, brings people out of curiosity, and brings people to protest against it.

The only thing that’s keeping the forum from thriving are renegade members who constantly break the rules and refuse to leave the forum in peace and end up starting huge messes of problems.



yeah sure threads were u mock ppl are going to attract noobs here
that’s just the best tactic I’ve ever seen


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zeta_evolved wrote:

Cid wrote:

zeta_evolved wrote: and also how the mods and everyone wants MvC to thrive to be huge but with that behavior?



Wrong, it’s that kinda stuff that could potentially draw in crowds and allow for debates, brings people out of curiosity, and brings people to protest against it.

The only thing that’s keeping the forum from thriving are renegade members who constantly break the rules and refuse to leave the forum in peace and end up starting huge messes of problems.



yeah sure threads were u mock ppl are going to attract noobs here
that’s just the best tactic I’ve ever seen



We get a lot of members who come here just to flame somebody. It works, can’t deny that. It’s why I’m here.

BUT!

That thread really had no good reason to be locked, and I stand beside that.


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I disagree and if more threads like that keep on being made I’ll fight them 'till they are all locked

and how is that working out for the site? everyone knows it’s dying slowly but dying, ppl have left cuz of shit like that

IT’S JUST NOT HELPING


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zeta_evolved wrote: I disagree and if more threads like that keep on being made I’ll fight them 'till they are all locked

and how is that working out for the site? everyone knows it’s dying slowly but dying, ppl have left cuz of shit like that

IT’S JUST NOT HELPING



No.. People have left because of the increasing immaturity level of the site.. Something which you’re beginning to exhibit (all caps anybody?)

And you can fight to have them locked, and since Etain (no offense intended, just helpful criticism) seems to mod more on her own feelings than site rules, you’ll probably succeed. But that in no way makes it as if those thread deserved to be locked.


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u r going to hate me for this
but that’s Rebeca, she’s the one that mods with her feelings

Etain might have had a few slips but god, I trust her more that I trust Ninja, mod-wise

specially cuz she has experience

now
so I’m the one showing the immature behavior funny u say I’m not the one supporting hatred and the idea of mocking ppl

guess if trying to keep respect alive here makes me immature so be it
I don’t care

and the thread did deserved to be locked just for the mere fact of it mocking ppl a.k.a. Racism


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zeta_evolved wrote: u r going to hate me for this
but that’s Rebeca, she’s the one that mods with her feelings

Etain might have had a few slips but god, I trust her more that I trust Ninja, mod-wise

specially cuz she has experience

now
so I’m the one showing the immature behavior funny u say I’m not the one supporting hatred and the idea of mocking ppl

guess if trying to keep respect alive here makes me immature so be it
I don’t care

and the thread did deserved to be locked just for the mere fact of it mocking ppl a.k.a. Racism



When did I fuck up as a mod?


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Green_Ninja wrote:

zeta_evolved wrote: u r going to hate me for this
but that’s Rebeca, she’s the one that mods with her feelings

Etain might have had a few slips but god, I trust her more that I trust Ninja, mod-wise

specially cuz she has experience

now
so I’m the one showing the immature behavior funny u say I’m not the one supporting hatred and the idea of mocking ppl

guess if trying to keep respect alive here makes me immature so be it
I don’t care

and the thread did deserved to be locked just for the mere fact of it mocking ppl a.k.a. Racism



When did I fuck up as a mod?



u only mod when u feel like it, most of the time u don’t listen to us, and u grow favoritisms


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