wallyguitar wrote:
“Oh, forget that Judas is said to die two completely different deaths
Not really. The one account describes him as hanging himself (the mode of attempted suicide), where as the other describes the result. The area around jerusalem has many cliffs with rocks at the bottom. So, there’s your explanation. He attempted to hang himself over a cliff, the rope or branch broke, and he fell. Not a contradiction. You just have to put two and two together.
As for the judgement criteria, you’ll have to give an example, because god does not change his standards.
wallyguitar wrote:
“Oh, forget that Judas is said to die two completely different deaths
Not really. The one account describes him as hanging himself (the mode of attempted suicide), where as the other describes the result. The area around jerusalem has many cliffs with rocks at the bottom. So, there’s your explanation. He attempted to hang himself over a cliff, the rope or branch broke, and he fell. Not a contradiction. You just have to put two and two together.
As for the judgement criteria, you’ll have to give an example, because god does not change his standards.
Things that do not exist tend not to change because they can’t
i doubt anyone here has a fear of gay people. they’re not scary. those ones that dance through the streets halfnaked humping the air are pretty disturbing, but not scary. now 10 foot tall robotic spiders, there’s something to be afraid of. Especially if they have laser guns.
Maggot Face wrote:
Eh. Humanity has upset the way nature should work.
First of all, just because something is unnatural does not equate it to 'wrong' in any sense. The computer you’re typing on right now is unnatural. Medicine is unnatural. Buildings are unnatural. Books are unnatural. Refrigeration is unnatural. If you want to live in a completely natural world without any of humankind’s creations then logically you should give up all your possessions, live naked in the forest and hunt squirrels with your bare hands.
Second of all, even if unnatural things were 'wrong', homosexuality has been observed in every animal species, so how can you call it unnatural?
If anything, homosexuality in humans is helping nature by slowing the massive overpopulation of humans who are destroying the environment of this planet.
Maggot Face wrote:
I honestly don’t approve of homosexuality. There is zero biological benefit in it.
Masturbation is another sexual activity done entirely for pleasure with no reproductive benefit. If anything it just wastes sperm. Are you expecting everyone to give that up too? What about oral and anal sex? Elderly couples?
Maggot Face wrote:
The purpose of the sensation referred to as “love” is, at it’s root, designed to encourage reproduction.
Reproduction is how life works, it is not a purpose or meaning that life must aspire to. Reproduction is not a duty, it is a right. You can choose whether you want to exercise it or not.
You give your life it’s own meaning. It can be from knowledge, morality, entertainment, love or anything else. None of these things can be called objectively more important values than anything else, they are your desires and aspirations, not everyone else’s.
Call me ignorant, but I think humans have more they could aim for with their capacity for abstract thinking than just being mindless fuck-machines who just want to produce more offspring, whatever sexuality they are. That is what seperates us from the rest of the animals.
Maggot Face wrote:
Biologically, the meaning of life is to create more life. Homosexuality doesn’t lead to reproduction. There is no meaning to it.
Don’t get me wrong THIS IS NOT MY OWN LOGIC, but if humans who do not reproduce are burdens to society, what about your brother? Isn’t he autistic? I have nothing against autistic people, but most of the ones with more serious types of autism can have a lot of trouble taking care of themselves without assistance, let alone getting a job and having kids. You do not hate your brother, but you dissaprove of homosexuals for not reproducing. Why are you being selective? It seems to me you just feel sympathy for people close to you and might not have thought enough about being in the shoes of someone different, even if you have friends who are gay, I don’t think you can say you care for their own intrests much if you won’t let them love who they want without hurting anyone else.
Maggot Face wrote:
I didn’t say gay marriage. I said homosexuality. Married or otherwise. I don’t like it.
There are lots of things I don’t like. I don’t like people believing in God, but I respect their right to do what they want with their own life so long as they’re not forcing it on anyone else.
If you do not let others do the same, what empathetic basis could you have for complaining when someone forces their way of life on you? What if the government forced 10% of the population to become homosexual to slow overpopulation and YOU were chosen for it? How would you feel?
Deep down Maggot Face, I don’t think these are real arguments you’ve formed from a rational view on the subject, they’re an attempt at justification for your prejudice against people who are different from you.
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Last edited 23 Oct 2009 06:36 pm by Shaun of the Living
Homosexuality is a disease. A burden to mankind in general. It’s not natural and it’s generally disgusting, along with serving absolutely no purpose. I don’t even believe two men or two women can LOVE each other in the same way a man and a woman do, it’s impossible because it was never intended within our biological design. God condemned Sodom and Gramora partly due to their practices of homosexuality and the world today will face a similar end when his wrath is poured upon the planet.
Does not really care wrote:
Homosexuality is a disease. A burden to mankind in general. It’s not natural and it’s generally disgusting, along with serving absolutely no purpose. I don’t even believe two men or two women can LOVE each other in the same way a man and a woman do, it’s impossible because it was never intended within our biological design. God condemned Sodom and Gramora partly due to their practices of homosexuality and the world today will face a similar end when his wrath is poured upon the planet.
...Wow. Let me put it the words of my own personal Jesus. “I’m Not a slave to a God who doesn’t exist."
and another one of my Personal Jesus' “God is Gay and so am I."
Does not really care wrote:
Homosexuality is a disease. A burden to mankind in general. It’s not natural and it’s generally disgusting, along with serving absolutely no purpose. I don’t even believe two men or two women can LOVE each other in the same way a man and a woman do, it’s impossible because it was never intended within our biological design. God condemned Sodom and Gramora partly due to their practices of homosexuality and the world today will face a similar end when his wrath is poured upon the planet.
...Wow. Let me put it the words of my own personal Jesus. “I’m Not a slave to a God who doesn’t exist."
and another one of my Personal Jesus' “God is Gay and so am I.“
Marylin Manson, on top of being one of the worst musical artist I’ve ever heard, is also one of the most ignorant, stupid, and self-righteous people in the world. His little song is nothing more then an attempt at promoting incoherent idealistic views to young children who should probably be in church. If nothing else, church at least promotes good morals and kindness, unlike the rest of the world.
Does not really care wrote:
Homosexuality is a disease. A burden to mankind in general. It’s not natural and it’s generally disgusting, along with serving absolutely no purpose. I don’t even believe two men or two women can LOVE each other in the same way a man and a woman do, it’s impossible because it was never intended within our biological design. God condemned Sodom and Gramora partly due to their practices of homosexuality and the world today will face a similar end when his wrath is poured upon the planet.
...Wow. Let me put it the words of my own personal Jesus. “I’m Not a slave to a God who doesn’t exist."
and another one of my Personal Jesus' “God is Gay and so am I.“
Marylin Manson, on top of being one of the worst musical artist I’ve ever heard, is also one of the most ignorant, stupid, and self-righteous people in the world. His little song is nothing more then an attempt at promoting incoherent idealistic views to young children who should probably be in church. If nothing else, church at least promotes good morals and kindness, unlike the rest of the world.
lol. Marilyn Manson is 1000000x better than God. Fuck God.
Does not really care wrote:
Homosexuality is a disease. A burden to mankind in general. It’s not natural and it’s generally disgusting, along with serving absolutely no purpose. I don’t even believe two men or two women can LOVE each other in the same way a man and a woman do, it’s impossible because it was never intended within our biological design. God condemned Sodom and Gramora partly due to their practices of homosexuality and the world today will face a similar end when his wrath is poured upon the planet.
Overpopulation is also a “disease” of sorts to mankind, and what is disgusting is subject to opinion.
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. You’re going to make me keep bringing up that quote about virgins aren’t you? 
