NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
I think that it could be possible. And you Atresac? Do you think that it is possible?
I think it’s impossible, here’s a brief explanation as to why:
Energy nor matter can be created or destroyed. Therefore, the energy and matter in the Universe at any given time would be a constant (X). Now assume you have your time traveler, with his own energy to keep him existing and his own matter and mass (Y).
To send him either forward or back in time would require adding energy to the future/past, and taking energy and matter from the current time. The present would have an energy sum of X-Y, while the future or past would have energy of X+Y.
Since the Universe has gone its entire existence with a constant amount of energy, adding/taking away energy could have some pretty big effects. More gravity, the Universe gains more mass, etc.
We don’t know what this could do, but I imagine it could be devastating for the present Universe and wherever time travel man is sent.
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
I think that it could be possible. And you Atresac? Do you think that it is possible?
I think it’s impossible, here’s a brief explanation as to why:
Energy nor matter can be created or destroyed. Therefore, the energy and matter in the Universe at any given time would be a constant (X). Now assume you have your time traveler, with his own energy to keep him existing and his own matter and mass (Y).
To send him either forward or back in time would require adding energy to the future/past, and taking energy and matter from the current time. The present would have an energy sum of X-Y, while the future or past would have energy of X+Y.
Since the Universe has gone its entire existence with a constant amount of energy, adding/taking away energy could have some pretty big effects. More gravity, the Universe gains more mass, etc.
We don’t know what this could do, but I imagine it could be devastating for the present Universe and wherever time travel man is sent.
It may be possible, probably outside our grasp of sciences though.
Matter can’t be created or destroyed, but it moves throughout space; even if it doesn’t naturally move through time, it’s plausible that such a mode of “transportation” could be achieved much like one walks, or in an extreme case how planes can fly faster than the speed of sound
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(My little really weird theory of idiocy follows below)
Even as time passes, matter nor energy is created or destroyed, but it may only be that time is completely irrelevant in that the mass of the universe is constant, even through time travel. Basically, it’s like taking a piece from the middle and putting it in another location; it still has the same mass regardless of where it is.
(obviously, such a thing would be done nearly instantly, or else the problem would be that the universe would have less mass in between the spaces a person/object may time travel and could frack the universe over like Atresac said)
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Last edited 21 Feb 2008 11:10 pm by Tyreaus Dreacon
im going to say no on this one becasue time is not an eliment of some sort when it happens it happens how can there be away to recreate a time zone there is none its just not going to work like that
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
I think that it could be possible. And you Atresac? Do you think that it is possible?
I think it’s impossible, here’s a brief explanation as to why:
Energy nor matter can be created or destroyed. Therefore, the energy and matter in the Universe at any given time would be a constant (X). Now assume you have your time traveler, with his own energy to keep him existing and his own matter and mass (Y).
To send him either forward or back in time would require adding energy to the future/past, and taking energy and matter from the current time. The present would have an energy sum of X-Y, while the future or past would have energy of X+Y.
Since the Universe has gone its entire existence with a constant amount of energy, adding/taking away energy could have some pretty big effects. More gravity, the Universe gains more mass, etc.
We don’t know what this could do, but I imagine it could be devastating for the present Universe and wherever time travel man is sent.
Your theory fails.
If a person were to travel back in time, matter would not be added or taken away from the universe. It’d simply be placed in a different area, relocating if you will.
If alternate timelines exist, they’re all part of the same universe, but perhaps just in a different dimension than our own. When a person time travels, it wouldn’t really be time traveling as much as it’s going to an alternate reality. This would of course mean that there is an infinite number of realities in existence. A new reality would have to be created every new moment in time.
Anyhow, that’s an entire new end of the theory.
Point is, matter would simply be moved to another part of the universe. No creation or destruction required.
I’m not sure, but if it is possible, we won’t achieve it because we’d know if there would be some evidence in the past or present of it having an effect.
Also, there arises a huge number of paradoxes...
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Sean of the Living wrote:
I’m not sure, but if it is possible, we won’t achieve it because we’d know if there would be some evidence in the past or present of it having an effect.
Also, there arises a huge number of paradoxes...
That being if we even went back that far by the time we invented time travel, or even went into the past. We may have gone into the future. -shrugs-
i say no to the past
because if you go to the past you have to have a motive
if you fix what you went back in time to fix, you have no motive to do it in the future, making it so it never happened
basically the time paradox
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NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
I think that it could be possible. And you Atresac? Do you think that it is possible?
I think it’s impossible, here’s a brief explanation as to why:
Energy nor matter can be created or destroyed. Therefore, the energy and matter in the Universe at any given time would be a constant (X). Now assume you have your time traveler, with his own energy to keep him existing and his own matter and mass (Y).
To send him either forward or back in time would require adding energy to the future/past, and taking energy and matter from the current time. The present would have an energy sum of X-Y, while the future or past would have energy of X+Y.
Since the Universe has gone its entire existence with a constant amount of energy, adding/taking away energy could have some pretty big effects. More gravity, the Universe gains more mass, etc.
We don’t know what this could do, but I imagine it could be devastating for the present Universe and wherever time travel man is sent.
Your theory fails.
If a person were to travel back in time, matter would not be added or taken away from the universe. It’d simply be placed in a different area, relocating if you will.
If alternate timelines exist, they’re all part of the same universe, but perhaps just in a different dimension than our own. When a person time travels, it wouldn’t really be time traveling as much as it’s going to an alternate reality. This would of course mean that there is an infinite number of realities in existence. A new reality would have to be created every new moment in time.
Anyhow, that’s an entire new end of the theory.
Point is, matter would simply be moved to another part of the universe. No creation or destruction required.
The Universe where the time traveler exists would have less matter than it’s supposed to. The Universe he goes to would suddenly get more matter than normal. You’re relocating it but it doesn’t excuse that Universe B has suddenly gained more mass. The mass is a constant and suddenly adding more would be like adding a drop of water to a glass filled to the brim.
1indainfinite wrote:
Theorectally all you have to do is travel at the speed of light
Traveling at the speed of light (faster, actually) doesn’t produce time travel, but rather a kind of window into the past.
Lets say we can travel 300 light years in an instant. And let’s say we have a holy-shit powerful telescope.
We could take a look at Earth from 300 light years away. Since the light from present Earth wouldn’t have made it that far yet, we would be seeing Earth as it was 300 years ago.
We didn’t go back in time, but we created the illusion of it.
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
I think that it could be possible. And you Atresac? Do you think that it is possible?
I think it’s impossible, here’s a brief explanation as to why:
Energy nor matter can be created or destroyed. Therefore, the energy and matter in the Universe at any given time would be a constant (X). Now assume you have your time traveler, with his own energy to keep him existing and his own matter and mass (Y).
To send him either forward or back in time would require adding energy to the future/past, and taking energy and matter from the current time. The present would have an energy sum of X-Y, while the future or past would have energy of X+Y.
Since the Universe has gone its entire existence with a constant amount of energy, adding/taking away energy could have some pretty big effects. More gravity, the Universe gains more mass, etc.
We don’t know what this could do, but I imagine it could be devastating for the present Universe and wherever time travel man is sent.
Your theory fails.
If a person were to travel back in time, matter would not be added or taken away from the universe. It’d simply be placed in a different area, relocating if you will.
If alternate timelines exist, they’re all part of the same universe, but perhaps just in a different dimension than our own. When a person time travels, it wouldn’t really be time traveling as much as it’s going to an alternate reality. This would of course mean that there is an infinite number of realities in existence. A new reality would have to be created every new moment in time.
Anyhow, that’s an entire new end of the theory.
Point is, matter would simply be moved to another part of the universe. No creation or destruction required.
If someone went back and time...there would be an increase in energy.
If you were to go back 10 minutes, there would be a duplicate of yourself, and thus extra energy, as well as a lack of energy from your original time.
Here...
Let X = total energy in the universe
Let Y = the traveler’s energy
Before travel
Present: X
Past: X
After travel
Present: X - Y
Past: X + Y
Atresac already said it, but meh.
Travel forward at increased rates, however, is possible. In fact, right now, we are traveling forward into time faster than any stationary particle due to the planets movement. However, the “timewarp” is negligible due to our speed being very minuscule compared to the speed in which time around us stops completely...
Theoretically FTL travel should result in backwards time travel. But FTL speed is...impossible.
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