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.R.3.A.L.1.T.Y. wrote: If I was to knock my girlfriend up I would no doubt ask her to get an abortion. Why? Because it would mess both our lives up entirely.

However If I was to get my girlfriend pregnant when we are financially stable, mature, responsible etc.. but we didn’t want a child then it would most likely go to adoption. That or we would raise it.

Abortion is murder, but in some cases it is needed.

I am 50/50 with it.



What does having money have to do with putting a kid up for adoption?


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.R.3.A.L.1.T.Y. wrote: If I was to knock my girlfriend up I would no doubt ask her to get an abortion. Why? Because it would mess both our lives up entirely.

However If I was to get my girlfriend pregnant when we are financially stable, mature, responsible etc.. but we didn’t want a child then it would most likely go to adoption. That or we would raise it.

Abortion is murder, but in some cases it is needed.

I am 50/50 with it.


so, you believe that it is murder, but you’d do it, cuz it would inconvenience you? so, murder is ok, as long as it makes your life easier? just trying to understand where you’re coming from.


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King John wrote:

.R.3.A.L.1.T.Y. wrote: If I was to knock my girlfriend up I would no doubt ask her to get an abortion. Why? Because it would mess both our lives up entirely.

However If I was to get my girlfriend pregnant when we are financially stable, mature, responsible etc.. but we didn’t want a child then it would most likely go to adoption. That or we would raise it.

Abortion is murder, but in some cases it is needed.

I am 50/50 with it.



What does having money have to do with putting a kid up for adoption?



Being able to support the child i.e; diapers, toys, clothes, food, water, heat, shelter etc.. you cannot support a child on a measly income.


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derdev789 wrote:

kev360 wrote:

derdev789 wrote:

kev360 wrote:

derdev789 wrote:

kev360 wrote:

derdev789 wrote:

kev360 wrote: derdev, aren’t you supposed to be taking a test right now or something? haha

Test doesn’t start until 5:00.


ah, ok. haha

Yeah, you stupid internet newb. 'Sides, how the hellz did you know I had a test? You hackin my internetz and lookin at mah goddamn schedule?


yeah, i can do that...didn’t anyone tell you?

I think i’d remember if somebody told me about the hacking skillz of that newblet Kev360. Mostly cause he smells like crap and has a face like a donkey, but also because I hate you. STFU.


<3


Speaking of abortions. You half aborted mutant freak, how was school?


don’t even want to know how that works...haha yeah, pretty good. took some ghay standardized testing on physics...probably got 100% on it. haha


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kev360 wrote:

.R.3.A.L.1.T.Y. wrote: If I was to knock my girlfriend up I would no doubt ask her to get an abortion. Why? Because it would mess both our lives up entirely.

However If I was to get my girlfriend pregnant when we are financially stable, mature, responsible etc.. but we didn’t want a child then it would most likely go to adoption. That or we would raise it.

Abortion is murder, but in some cases it is needed.

I am 50/50 with it.


so, you believe that it is murder, but you’d do it, cuz it would inconvenience you? so, murder is ok, as long as it makes your life easier? just trying to understand where you’re coming from.



Exactly.


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kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

King John wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote: I’m one of the few (probably) Christians that feel it’s between the mother and god and the state or federal governments and other people not a member of the mother or fathers family should just butt out. It’s ironic that Christians, who are supposed to believe that dead babies go to Heaven, get so involved in a private matter. I believe that life begins at conception too and believe that a mother should not be allowed to kill her living children so my view is contradictory I guess. JMHO.


lol, yeah, i’d like to say, my views on this aren’t tied to religion. i never understood that connection. this is just me. i personally cannot rationalize abortion.

to me...ok, i consider it murder. same as you seem to be. because of this, i think it should be illegal to do. in my opinion, you could just kill your kid when he is 10, because you decide that he isn’t a person yet. after all, we only get legal rights at 18 really, right? to me, it doesn’t matter if they consider it murder or no. i do, and i’m not going to stand by and let it happen, to the extent of my power.

see what i’m saying?



Agreed.



John, I understand your viewpoint and laud you for your principles. I said my views are contradictory so......Do you think you have the right to harass preg women going into a clinic for an abortion, or burn clinics or kill abortion doctors?


i’m going to answer for him...

of course not. where the hell did you get that? since when do we judge an ideology based on the actions of a few extremists? COME ON man, you’re better then that.



Why so angry Kev? I was just asking a question not arguing a point. It seems everyone judges Christianity on the basis of actions by some so-called Christians when the religion has nothing to do with what those people are doing.


why would you even ask that? its ridiculous. by asking that, unprovoked, you implied that most everyone who is anti-abortion is some insane person who kills doctors and burns down buildings. again, its ridiculous.

yeah, and why are you perpetuating that attitude?




The new improved Chilly man responds: I’m truly sorry if I provoked you. May God watch over you.


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Chilly man wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

King John wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote: I’m one of the few (probably) Christians that feel it’s between the mother and god and the state or federal governments and other people not a member of the mother or fathers family should just butt out. It’s ironic that Christians, who are supposed to believe that dead babies go to Heaven, get so involved in a private matter. I believe that life begins at conception too and believe that a mother should not be allowed to kill her living children so my view is contradictory I guess. JMHO.


lol, yeah, i’d like to say, my views on this aren’t tied to religion. i never understood that connection. this is just me. i personally cannot rationalize abortion.

to me...ok, i consider it murder. same as you seem to be. because of this, i think it should be illegal to do. in my opinion, you could just kill your kid when he is 10, because you decide that he isn’t a person yet. after all, we only get legal rights at 18 really, right? to me, it doesn’t matter if they consider it murder or no. i do, and i’m not going to stand by and let it happen, to the extent of my power.

see what i’m saying?



Agreed.



John, I understand your viewpoint and laud you for your principles. I said my views are contradictory so......Do you think you have the right to harass preg women going into a clinic for an abortion, or burn clinics or kill abortion doctors?


i’m going to answer for him...

of course not. where the hell did you get that? since when do we judge an ideology based on the actions of a few extremists? COME ON man, you’re better then that.



Why so angry Kev? I was just asking a question not arguing a point. It seems everyone judges Christianity on the basis of actions by some so-called Christians when the religion has nothing to do with what those people are doing.


why would you even ask that? its ridiculous. by asking that, unprovoked, you implied that most everyone who is anti-abortion is some insane person who kills doctors and burns down buildings. again, its ridiculous.

yeah, and why are you perpetuating that attitude?




The new improved Chilly man responds: I’m truly sorry if I provoked you. May God watch over you.


lol, of course...


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.R.3.A.L.1.T.Y. wrote:

King John wrote:

.R.3.A.L.1.T.Y. wrote: If I was to knock my girlfriend up I would no doubt ask her to get an abortion. Why? Because it would mess both our lives up entirely.

However If I was to get my girlfriend pregnant when we are financially stable, mature, responsible etc.. but we didn’t want a child then it would most likely go to adoption. That or we would raise it.

Abortion is murder, but in some cases it is needed.

I am 50/50 with it.



What does having money have to do with putting a kid up for adoption?



Being able to support the child i.e; diapers, toys, clothes, food, water, heat, shelter etc.. you cannot support a child on a measly income.



That’s not what I meant, you said if you were financially sound and didn’t want the kid you would give it up for adoption, but if you weren’t you would abort it. So what does having money have to do with adoption?


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King John wrote:

.R.3.A.L.1.T.Y. wrote:

King John wrote:

.R.3.A.L.1.T.Y. wrote: If I was to knock my girlfriend up I would no doubt ask her to get an abortion. Why? Because it would mess both our lives up entirely.

However If I was to get my girlfriend pregnant when we are financially stable, mature, responsible etc.. but we didn’t want a child then it would most likely go to adoption. That or we would raise it.

Abortion is murder, but in some cases it is needed.

I am 50/50 with it.



What does having money have to do with putting a kid up for adoption?



Being able to support the child i.e; diapers, toys, clothes, food, water, heat, shelter etc.. you cannot support a child on a measly income.



That’s not what I meant, you said if you were financially sound and didn’t want the kid you would give it up for adoption, but if you weren’t you would abort it. So what does having money have to do with adoption?



Hm I am not quite sure after I review what I said.

I think I meant to say once our relationship got past the teenage years and hit the adult perspective. Not sure, I see your point.


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Chilly man wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

King John wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote: I’m one of the few (probably) Christians that feel it’s between the mother and god and the state or federal governments and other people not a member of the mother or fathers family should just butt out. It’s ironic that Christians, who are supposed to believe that dead babies go to Heaven, get so involved in a private matter. I believe that life begins at conception too and believe that a mother should not be allowed to kill her living children so my view is contradictory I guess. JMHO.


lol, yeah, i’d like to say, my views on this aren’t tied to religion. i never understood that connection. this is just me. i personally cannot rationalize abortion.

to me...ok, i consider it murder. same as you seem to be. because of this, i think it should be illegal to do. in my opinion, you could just kill your kid when he is 10, because you decide that he isn’t a person yet. after all, we only get legal rights at 18 really, right? to me, it doesn’t matter if they consider it murder or no. i do, and i’m not going to stand by and let it happen, to the extent of my power.

see what i’m saying?



Agreed.



John, I understand your viewpoint and laud you for your principles. I said my views are contradictory so......Do you think you have the right to harass preg women going into a clinic for an abortion, or burn clinics or kill abortion doctors?


i’m going to answer for him...

of course not. where the hell did you get that? since when do we judge an ideology based on the actions of a few extremists? COME ON man, you’re better then that.



Why so angry Kev? I was just asking a question not arguing a point. It seems everyone judges Christianity on the basis of actions by some so-called Christians when the religion has nothing to do with what those people are doing.


why would you even ask that? its ridiculous. by asking that, unprovoked, you implied that most everyone who is anti-abortion is some insane person who kills doctors and burns down buildings. again, its ridiculous.

yeah, and why are you perpetuating that attitude?




The new improved Chilly man responds: I’m truly sorry if I provoked you. May God watch over you.



What is so wrong in letting the woman decide whether she wants a baby or not? If she financially can’t support it, or maybe she would make a horrible mother, shouldn’t it be allowed?


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tastefrogtushe wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

King John wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote: I’m one of the few (probably) Christians that feel it’s between the mother and god and the state or federal governments and other people not a member of the mother or fathers family should just butt out. It’s ironic that Christians, who are supposed to believe that dead babies go to Heaven, get so involved in a private matter. I believe that life begins at conception too and believe that a mother should not be allowed to kill her living children so my view is contradictory I guess. JMHO.


lol, yeah, i’d like to say, my views on this aren’t tied to religion. i never understood that connection. this is just me. i personally cannot rationalize abortion.

to me...ok, i consider it murder. same as you seem to be. because of this, i think it should be illegal to do. in my opinion, you could just kill your kid when he is 10, because you decide that he isn’t a person yet. after all, we only get legal rights at 18 really, right? to me, it doesn’t matter if they consider it murder or no. i do, and i’m not going to stand by and let it happen, to the extent of my power.

see what i’m saying?



Agreed.



John, I understand your viewpoint and laud you for your principles. I said my views are contradictory so......Do you think you have the right to harass preg women going into a clinic for an abortion, or burn clinics or kill abortion doctors?


i’m going to answer for him...

of course not. where the hell did you get that? since when do we judge an ideology based on the actions of a few extremists? COME ON man, you’re better then that.



Why so angry Kev? I was just asking a question not arguing a point. It seems everyone judges Christianity on the basis of actions by some so-called Christians when the religion has nothing to do with what those people are doing.


why would you even ask that? its ridiculous. by asking that, unprovoked, you implied that most everyone who is anti-abortion is some insane person who kills doctors and burns down buildings. again, its ridiculous.

yeah, and why are you perpetuating that attitude?




The new improved Chilly man responds: I’m truly sorry if I provoked you. May God watch over you.



What is so wrong in letting the woman decide whether she wants a baby or not? If she financially can’t support it, or maybe she would make a horrible mother, shouldn’t it be allowed?



What’s wrong with adoption?


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tastefrogtushe wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

King John wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote: I’m one of the few (probably) Christians that feel it’s between the mother and god and the state or federal governments and other people not a member of the mother or fathers family should just butt out. It’s ironic that Christians, who are supposed to believe that dead babies go to Heaven, get so involved in a private matter. I believe that life begins at conception too and believe that a mother should not be allowed to kill her living children so my view is contradictory I guess. JMHO.


lol, yeah, i’d like to say, my views on this aren’t tied to religion. i never understood that connection. this is just me. i personally cannot rationalize abortion.

to me...ok, i consider it murder. same as you seem to be. because of this, i think it should be illegal to do. in my opinion, you could just kill your kid when he is 10, because you decide that he isn’t a person yet. after all, we only get legal rights at 18 really, right? to me, it doesn’t matter if they consider it murder or no. i do, and i’m not going to stand by and let it happen, to the extent of my power.

see what i’m saying?



Agreed.



John, I understand your viewpoint and laud you for your principles. I said my views are contradictory so......Do you think you have the right to harass preg women going into a clinic for an abortion, or burn clinics or kill abortion doctors?


i’m going to answer for him...

of course not. where the hell did you get that? since when do we judge an ideology based on the actions of a few extremists? COME ON man, you’re better then that.



Why so angry Kev? I was just asking a question not arguing a point. It seems everyone judges Christianity on the basis of actions by some so-called Christians when the religion has nothing to do with what those people are doing.


why would you even ask that? its ridiculous. by asking that, unprovoked, you implied that most everyone who is anti-abortion is some insane person who kills doctors and burns down buildings. again, its ridiculous.

yeah, and why are you perpetuating that attitude?




The new improved Chilly man responds: I’m truly sorry if I provoked you. May God watch over you.



What is so wrong in letting the woman decide whether she wants a baby or not? If she financially can’t support it, or maybe she would make a horrible mother, shouldn’t it be allowed?


and what if she decides the same thing five years later? then, she’d actually have PROOF that she’s a bad mom. so, obviously, it would be MORE moral to kill a five year old, right?

idk, i’m just struggling to see the difference here. i know this a purely emotional argument, so i’m not really used to this...but, i guess the only thing to do in an emotional argument is to appeal to emotions...

still, my response to that would be adoption.


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tastefrogtushe wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

King John wrote:

kev360 wrote:

Chilly man wrote: I’m one of the few (probably) Christians that feel it’s between the mother and god and the state or federal governments and other people not a member of the mother or fathers family should just butt out. It’s ironic that Christians, who are supposed to believe that dead babies go to Heaven, get so involved in a private matter. I believe that life begins at conception too and believe that a mother should not be allowed to kill her living children so my view is contradictory I guess. JMHO.


lol, yeah, i’d like to say, my views on this aren’t tied to religion. i never understood that connection. this is just me. i personally cannot rationalize abortion.

to me...ok, i consider it murder. same as you seem to be. because of this, i think it should be illegal to do. in my opinion, you could just kill your kid when he is 10, because you decide that he isn’t a person yet. after all, we only get legal rights at 18 really, right? to me, it doesn’t matter if they consider it murder or no. i do, and i’m not going to stand by and let it happen, to the extent of my power.

see what i’m saying?



Agreed.



John, I understand your viewpoint and laud you for your principles. I said my views are contradictory so......Do you think you have the right to harass preg women going into a clinic for an abortion, or burn clinics or kill abortion doctors?


i’m going to answer for him...

of course not. where the hell did you get that? since when do we judge an ideology based on the actions of a few extremists? COME ON man, you’re better then that.



Why so angry Kev? I was just asking a question not arguing a point. It seems everyone judges Christianity on the basis of actions by some so-called Christians when the religion has nothing to do with what those people are doing.


why would you even ask that? its ridiculous. by asking that, unprovoked, you implied that most everyone who is anti-abortion is some insane person who kills doctors and burns down buildings. again, its ridiculous.

yeah, and why are you perpetuating that attitude?




The new improved Chilly man responds: I’m truly sorry if I provoked you. May God watch over you.



What is so wrong in letting the woman decide whether she wants a baby or not? If she financially can’t support it, or maybe she would make a horrible mother, shouldn’t it be allowed?



No problem if the father is not involved, but if I got a girl pregnant and she killed it I’d prolly kill her.


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Why is this in Politics for? Shouldn’t it be in on-topic?


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This subject is always being debated.. every opinion on this subject has Pros and Cons.


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abortion should be legal up till the age of 6 or until they enter kindergarten.

think about it. if they are retarded or something why put them through the humiliation and cruelty? or what if they are just troublesome and get in the way of parting and going out? all these problems can be eliminated with post birth abortions.


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EvilFink wrote: abortion should be legal up till the age of 6 or until they enter kindergarten.

think about it. if they are retarded or something why put them through the humiliation and cruelty? or what if they are just troublesome and get in the way of parting and going out? all these problems can be eliminated with post birth abortions.


Yeah, that would be fun.

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King Boo wrote:

EvilFink wrote: abortion should be legal up till the age of 6 or until they enter kindergarten.

think about it. if they are retarded or something why put them through the humiliation and cruelty? or what if they are just troublesome and get in the way of parting and going out? all these problems can be eliminated with post birth abortions.


Yeah, that would be fun.



OMG, I’m pro-choice, but that’s taking it a little far!


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tastefrogtushe wrote:

King Boo wrote:

EvilFink wrote: abortion should be legal up till the age of 6 or until they enter kindergarten.

think about it. if they are retarded or something why put them through the humiliation and cruelty? or what if they are just troublesome and get in the way of parting and going out? all these problems can be eliminated with post birth abortions.


Yeah, that would be fun.



OMG, I’m pro-choice, but that’s taking it a little far!


Abortion sends the babies to heaven faster!

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