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Chilly man wrote: Rip,

As usual in non-believers you have taken the Scripture out of context and misunderstood it’s meaning. The Psalmist was praising God and referring to the fact that God knows every tiny thing that has, is or will happen from the beginning to the end. It does not mean that God approves anything and everything that happens. Just that he knew beforehand. He gives us freewill to do as we please but He lets us suffer the consequences of our actions.

Actually what I’m saying is that if we had free will then there would be no gods plan.
So what if David was praising god. He made the statement that it is all planned out ahead of time. Now suppose you plan a party and it goes off just the way you planned it...Would you disapprove?..Fact is something cant be planned and dissaproved of at the same time...thats irrational...

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts

You’re wrong but it’s a moot issue, we’ll never agree. At the end of the age you’ll learn the truth when every thought you ever had is presented to you.

riptorn311 wrote:

Chilly man wrote: Rip,

As usual in non-believers you have taken the Scripture out of context and misunderstood it’s meaning. The Psalmist was praising God and referring to the fact that God knows every tiny thing that has, is or will happen from the beginning to the end. It does not mean that God approves anything and everything that happens. Just that he knew beforehand. He gives us freewill to do as we please but He lets us suffer the consequences of our actions.

Actually what I’m saying is that if we had free will then there would be no gods plan.
So what if David was praising god. He made the statement that it is all planned out ahead of time. Now suppose you plan a party and it goes off just the way you planned it...Would you disapprove?..FACT IS SOMETHING CANT BE PLANNED AND DISAPPROVED OF AT THE SAME TIME...THATS IRRATIONAL...

how is that wrong?

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts

riptorn311 wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

Chilly man wrote: Rip,

As usual in non-believers you have taken the Scripture out of context and misunderstood it’s meaning. The Psalmist was praising God and referring to the fact that God knows every tiny thing that has, is or will happen from the beginning to the end. It does not mean that God approves anything and everything that happens. Just that he knew beforehand. He gives us freewill to do as we please but He lets us suffer the consequences of our actions.

Actually what I’m saying is that if we had free will then there would be no gods plan.
So what if David was praising god. He made the statement that it is all planned out ahead of time. Now suppose you plan a party and it goes off just the way you planned it...Would you disapprove?..FACT IS SOMETHING CANT BE PLANNED AND DISAPPROVED OF AT THE SAME TIME...THATS IRRATIONAL...

how is that wrong?

It is wrong because you are making a misinterpretation of Scripture.

Chilly man wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

riptorn311 wrote:

Chilly man wrote: Rip,

As usual in non-believers you have taken the Scripture out of context and misunderstood it’s meaning. The Psalmist was praising God and referring to the fact that God knows every tiny thing that has, is or will happen from the beginning to the end. It does not mean that God approves anything and everything that happens. Just that he knew beforehand. He gives us freewill to do as we please but He lets us suffer the consequences of our actions.

Actually what I’m saying is that if we had free will then there would be no gods plan.
So what if David was praising god. He made the statement that it is all planned out ahead of time. Now suppose you plan a party and it goes off just the way you planned it...Would you disapprove?..FACT IS SOMETHING CANT BE PLANNED AND DISAPPROVED OF AT THE SAME TIME...THATS IRRATIONAL...

how is that wrong?

It is wrong because you are making a misinterpretation of Scripture.

What I was asking about being wrong is my statement:FACT IS SOMETHING CANT BE PLANNED AND DISAPPROVED OF AT THE SAME TIME...THATS IRRATIONAL...Misinterpretation of scripture is the end all argument...You just dont understand...Implying that you have knowledge that I dont...As I recall David was pretty tight with god...Now why would David say that if it held no real meaning behind the words....Am I not supposed to take the Bible literal?...When I was going to church I was told that the bible is correct. Still stands that god knows everything and everything that happens is part of his divine plan. And yes I mean EVERYTHING...Including the bad stuff...I put it this way...When something good happens to you your blessed. When something bad happens it’s gods will...

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts

I’m not Biblically smart enuff to argue the point with you Rip. If you truly want a Christian response to your statement all I can do is refer you to Jack Kelley at www.gracethrufaith.com. He can answer that according to Scripture. I only have the knowledge that the Holy Spirit has given me. Actually, it’s called faith.

Chilly man wrote: I’m not Biblically smart enuff to argue the point with you Rip. If you truly want a Christian response to your statement all I can do is refer you to Jack Kelley at www.gracethrufaith.com. He can answer that according to Scripture. I only have the knowledge that the Holy Spirit has given me. Actually, it’s called faith.

O.k thats cool...just remember james 2: 17...Faith without good deeds is dead. A christian might consider learning scriptural knowledge is a good deed...See what I’m getting at here? And dude please don’t take this as a slight against you. If one wishes to debate the bible then one relies on the bible to debate. Maybe you could ask the holy spirit to guide you to the passages you need to debate. Thats an option I guess...

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts

riptorn311 wrote:

Chilly man wrote: I’m not Biblically smart enuff to argue the point with you Rip. If you truly want a Christian response to your statement all I can do is refer you to Jack Kelley at www.gracethrufaith.com. He can answer that according to Scripture. I only have the knowledge that the Holy Spirit has given me. Actually, it’s called faith.

O.k thats cool...just remember james 2: 17...Faith without good deeds is dead. A christian might consider learning scriptural knowledge is a good deed...See what I’m getting at here? And dude please don’t take this as a slight against you. If one wishes to debate the bible then one relies on the bible to debate. Maybe you could ask the holy spirit to guide you to the passages you need to debate. Thats an option I guess...

Geez Rip. You are just bringing up the same old arguments that Gplex has. I’ve gotten the correct answers from Jack Kelley and given them to Gplex who just changes the subject then. Again, you are taking the Scripture out of context. I’m not going to argue this again. You atheists will never accept Christians answers because you do not believe in the Christian God so it is stupid to even try to argue with you. Believe what you want Rip, I’m not going to be there when you learn the truth, only your peers.

There is no way i took james ch 2: 17 out of context...Heck i could put the whole chapter here and it confirms what i said about faith and good deeds...
Heres the thing...
Rather than asking Jack Kelly for the “correct” answers. Try to come up with an answer on your own...If you don’t have an answer thats perfectly fine. It encourages you to re-read and have independant thought at the same time...A win-win situation...Look I won’t debate on this with ya anymore because you said you didn’t want to and thats fine. Just tryin to get the old wheels in the head turnin is all..

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts

I am against it.

[I might like you better,if we slept together.]

No, Rip, I don’t need to look anything up or to answer your question. My faith sustains me and I’m not one of those Christians that will endlessly argue apoligetics with you. If you are jusged at the end of the age that’s your problem. Fortunately God does not force me to watch your judgement so I won’t cry over you as I would today.

Most of the people on here should have been aborted.

20anon09 wrote: Most of the people on here should have been aborted.

Including you.

Chilly man wrote:

20anon09 wrote: Most of the people on here should have been aborted.

Including you.

Na i was referring to yank tosspots such as yourself.Im not a member of this shit.

20anon09 wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

20anon09 wrote: Most of the people on here should have been aborted.

Including you.

Na i was referring to yank tosspots such as yourself.Im not a member of this shit.

Of course you’re not. You have to have a modicum of intelligence to be a member. We allow guests in here to add ambiance. (That ought to keep you busy for a while looking up words in the dictionary.)

Chilly man wrote:

20anon09 wrote:

Chilly man wrote:

20anon09 wrote: Most of the people on here should have been aborted.

Including you.

Na i was referring to yank tosspots such as yourself.Im not a member of this shit.

Of course you’re not. You have to have a modicum of intelligence to be a member. We allow guests in here to add ambiance. (That ought to keep you busy for a while looking up words in the dictionary.)

Oh yes im sure it requires intelligence for yank cunts like yourself to sign up to a shitty forum full of more yank cunts.

Sure does, we even let Limeys come in here. We’re an equal opportunity bb.

Chilly man wrote: Sure does, we even let Limeys come in here. We’re an equal opportunity bb.

Isnt it about time u aborted yourself thick yankee cunt?

20anon09 wrote:

Chilly man wrote: Sure does, we even let Limeys come in here. We’re an equal opportunity bb.

Isnt it about time u aborted yourself thick yankee cunt?

20anon09 - The poster child for pro-abortion.

lmao rip you’re the man ahahahahaaha

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