| 17 May 2009 07:02 pm |
Knight of Vermilion Rep: 68  Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 52,704 ONLINE | King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
If I had a daughter who was raped and got pregnant then I would take her to the doctor and tell him to treat her for any injuries, and to make sure I was only taking here home, no one else.
That’s not an answer. Re-read my previous question. Would you force that young girl to go through the pregnancy?
Read what I just wrote. I wasnt answering anything.
Then answer my questions, please.
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Thinking bout' life Rep: 61 Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,573 OFFLINE | I would definitly want my girlfriend or daughter to get an abortion. Doesnt make it right, but i would do it. | | | 17 May 2009 07:03 pm |
Thinking bout' life Rep: 61Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,573 OFFLINE | Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo: First of all, I thought you were told NOT to post that as a picture. Secondly, I guess you support forcing women through pregnancy if they are raped.
Its the womans duty to protect her baby. So yes, even rape pregnancys should be carried out, and then maybe put up for adoption, not killed, even before they fully develop.
Hah, well, you’re a sick little boy as well, wanting to put a women through the ordeals of a pregnancy that was forced upon them, and having to take care of the baby (whether through adoption or whatever else), along with the pains of being raped to begin with.
Life isnt fair. But killing is wrong.
So is forcing the girl to go through pregnancy. Better yet, let’s toss something else in, a little scenario:
A young girl is raped and impregnated. If she carries through with the child, she will die certainly and the child will have a low chance of survival. She does not want to go through with the pregnancy, for obvious reasons. You would force her to go through with the pregnancy?
Oh and something else:
If it is considered murder (killing of a human being), should we jail all of those who chose to have abortions?
It isnt the right thing to do, but sometimes its the best thing to do. | | | 17 May 2009 07:06 pm |
Knight of Vermilion Rep: 68Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 52,704 ONLINE | King Boo wrote:
I would definitly want my girlfriend or daughter to get an abortion. Doesnt make it right, but i would do it.
lol, yeah, okay, and you say Haylias is supporting killing...
Okay can I have an answer to the second question? (whether people who choose an abortion should be jailed as it is murder of a living being)
And, for curiosity, let’s say that scenario I asked before was just a random person, not someone related to you.
| | | 17 May 2009 07:08 pm |
Thinking bout' life Rep: 61Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,573 OFFLINE | Its the right thing to do to not kill it, but babies cause alot of problems, so sometimes its easiest just to kill it before its born. | | | 17 May 2009 07:09 pm |
Regular Rep: 3Joined: 14 May 2009 Posts: 113 OFFLINE | I agree with kingboo, it isnt right but sometimes it just makes life so much easir for the “victim" | | | 17 May 2009 07:10 pm |
Knight of Vermilion Rep: 68Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 52,704 ONLINE | King Boo wrote:
Its the right thing to do to not kill it, but babies cause alot of problems, so sometimes its easiest just to kill it before its born.
But you would still call it murder, which is a criminal offence, no? And you DO still oppose abortion, yes?
| | | 17 May 2009 07:13 pm |
Thinking bout' life Rep: 61Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,573 OFFLINE | Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Its the right thing to do to not kill it, but babies cause alot of problems, so sometimes its easiest just to kill it before its born.
But you would still call it murder, which is a criminal offence, no? And you DO still oppose abortion, yes?
It should be a court thing, like you need to go to court to decide if your situation justifies having an abortion. If your just a slut that happens to get pregnant because your to stupid to stay safe, then you should have to deal with taking care of a life, killing is the easy way out, but sometimes that is just wrong. | | | 17 May 2009 07:16 pm |
Knight of Vermilion Rep: 68Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 52,704 ONLINE | King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Its the right thing to do to not kill it, but babies cause alot of problems, so sometimes its easiest just to kill it before its born.
But you would still call it murder, which is a criminal offence, no? And you DO still oppose abortion, yes?
It should be a court thing, like you need to go to court to decide if your situation justifies having an abortion. If your just a slut that happens to get pregnant because your to stupid to stay safe, then you should have to deal with taking care of a life, killing is the easy way out, but sometimes that is just wrong.
I’m not going to mention how quickly that could back up court systems. As it is up here, many cases can take years. When it comes to pregnancies, there aren’t years to spend.
Either way, that’s starting to border on “pro-choice” I believe, which is why I asked the second question.
| | | 17 May 2009 07:20 pm |
Thinking bout' life Rep: 61Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,573 OFFLINE | Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Its the right thing to do to not kill it, but babies cause alot of problems, so sometimes its easiest just to kill it before its born.
But you would still call it murder, which is a criminal offence, no? And you DO still oppose abortion, yes?
It should be a court thing, like you need to go to court to decide if your situation justifies having an abortion. If your just a slut that happens to get pregnant because your to stupid to stay safe, then you should have to deal with taking care of a life, killing is the easy way out, but sometimes that is just wrong.
I’m not going to mention how quickly that could back up court systems. As it is up here, many cases can take years. When it comes to pregnancies, there aren’t years to spend.
Either way, that’s starting to border on “pro-choice” I believe, which is why I asked the second question.
It depends, it really isnt the womans body shes making the choice for, its the babies. | | | 17 May 2009 07:36 pm |
Knight of Vermilion Rep: 68Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 52,704 ONLINE | King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Its the right thing to do to not kill it, but babies cause alot of problems, so sometimes its easiest just to kill it before its born.
But you would still call it murder, which is a criminal offence, no? And you DO still oppose abortion, yes?
It should be a court thing, like you need to go to court to decide if your situation justifies having an abortion. If your just a slut that happens to get pregnant because your to stupid to stay safe, then you should have to deal with taking care of a life, killing is the easy way out, but sometimes that is just wrong.
I’m not going to mention how quickly that could back up court systems. As it is up here, many cases can take years. When it comes to pregnancies, there aren’t years to spend.
Either way, that’s starting to border on “pro-choice” I believe, which is why I asked the second question.
It depends, it really isnt the womans body shes making the choice for, its the babies.
I’d have to think that, if a woman is considering whether to have an abortion, and not just rushing into it one way or another, she’d be thinking of both subjects. After all, the condition of the baby and the mother are at least somewhat interlinked. (growing up with, or without, a mother, and what condition the mother would be in)
Now, I’ll only subtly point out how I find it funny you “attacked” Haylias for being “pro-choice” by calling him a “sick little boy” not many posts prior and you already seem to be going back, at least slightly, on your own word.
Anyway, so far as your idea of “going through the courts”, I already know that can take too long. Takes years up here for some cases to even get started. IMO, better way would be consulting a doctor and/or psychologist. Chances are, it would be faster, and those two are probably better fit to say whether a person is “right” to get an abortion in that sense. (considering biological and emotional factors of the case without having to go through the tediously long legal bullshit. Doctors aren’t usually mindless, either, got a bit of rationalization to them and could probably help dictate things)
| | | 17 May 2009 07:38 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 39 Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,681 OFFLINE | Depends on the situation. So I said good. If the family is unable to afford a baby/child it is best to have it aborted. If not, and they are ready for a baby, then they should keep it. ---
 | | | 17 May 2009 07:41 pm |
Thinking bout' life Rep: 61Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,573 OFFLINE | Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Its the right thing to do to not kill it, but babies cause alot of problems, so sometimes its easiest just to kill it before its born.
But you would still call it murder, which is a criminal offence, no? And you DO still oppose abortion, yes?
It should be a court thing, like you need to go to court to decide if your situation justifies having an abortion. If your just a slut that happens to get pregnant because your to stupid to stay safe, then you should have to deal with taking care of a life, killing is the easy way out, but sometimes that is just wrong.
I’m not going to mention how quickly that could back up court systems. As it is up here, many cases can take years. When it comes to pregnancies, there aren’t years to spend.
Either way, that’s starting to border on “pro-choice” I believe, which is why I asked the second question.
It depends, it really isnt the womans body shes making the choice for, its the babies.
I’d have to think that, if a woman is considering whether to have an abortion, and not just rushing into it one way or another, she’d be thinking of both subjects. After all, the condition of the baby and the mother are at least somewhat interlinked. (growing up with, or without, a mother, and what condition the mother would be in)
Now, I’ll only subtly point out how I find it funny you “attacked” Haylias for being “pro-choice” by calling him a “sick little boy” not many posts prior and you already seem to be going back, at least slightly, on your own word.
Anyway, so far as your idea of “going through the courts”, I already know that can take too long. Takes years up here for some cases to even get started. IMO, better way would be consulting a doctor and/or psychologist. Chances are, it would be faster, and those two are probably better fit to say whether a person is “right” to get an abortion in that sense. (considering biological and emotional factors of the case without having to go through the tediously long legal bullshit. Doctors aren’t usually mindless, either, got a bit of rationalization to them and could probably help dictate things)
Its never the “right” thing to do, but as I said before, sometimes its the best thing to do. No one will ever congradulate you and tell you your a great person for aborting a baby lol. | | | 17 May 2009 07:45 pm |
Knight of Vermilion Rep: 68Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 52,704 ONLINE | King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Its the right thing to do to not kill it, but babies cause alot of problems, so sometimes its easiest just to kill it before its born.
But you would still call it murder, which is a criminal offence, no? And you DO still oppose abortion, yes?
It should be a court thing, like you need to go to court to decide if your situation justifies having an abortion. If your just a slut that happens to get pregnant because your to stupid to stay safe, then you should have to deal with taking care of a life, killing is the easy way out, but sometimes that is just wrong.
I’m not going to mention how quickly that could back up court systems. As it is up here, many cases can take years. When it comes to pregnancies, there aren’t years to spend.
Either way, that’s starting to border on “pro-choice” I believe, which is why I asked the second question.
It depends, it really isnt the womans body shes making the choice for, its the babies.
I’d have to think that, if a woman is considering whether to have an abortion, and not just rushing into it one way or another, she’d be thinking of both subjects. After all, the condition of the baby and the mother are at least somewhat interlinked. (growing up with, or without, a mother, and what condition the mother would be in)
Now, I’ll only subtly point out how I find it funny you “attacked” Haylias for being “pro-choice” by calling him a “sick little boy” not many posts prior and you already seem to be going back, at least slightly, on your own word.
Anyway, so far as your idea of “going through the courts”, I already know that can take too long. Takes years up here for some cases to even get started. IMO, better way would be consulting a doctor and/or psychologist. Chances are, it would be faster, and those two are probably better fit to say whether a person is “right” to get an abortion in that sense. (considering biological and emotional factors of the case without having to go through the tediously long legal bullshit. Doctors aren’t usually mindless, either, got a bit of rationalization to them and could probably help dictate things)
Its never the “right” thing to do, but as I said before, sometimes its the best thing to do. No one will ever congradulate you and tell you your a great person for aborting a baby lol.
And no one even really SHOULD congratulate on an abortion. It makes no sense, like congratulating on getting a cut or some stupid thing. >.>
| | | 17 May 2009 07:46 pm |
Thinking bout' life Rep: 61Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 17,573 OFFLINE | Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Its the right thing to do to not kill it, but babies cause alot of problems, so sometimes its easiest just to kill it before its born.
But you would still call it murder, which is a criminal offence, no? And you DO still oppose abortion, yes?
It should be a court thing, like you need to go to court to decide if your situation justifies having an abortion. If your just a slut that happens to get pregnant because your to stupid to stay safe, then you should have to deal with taking care of a life, killing is the easy way out, but sometimes that is just wrong.
I’m not going to mention how quickly that could back up court systems. As it is up here, many cases can take years. When it comes to pregnancies, there aren’t years to spend.
Either way, that’s starting to border on “pro-choice” I believe, which is why I asked the second question.
It depends, it really isnt the womans body shes making the choice for, its the babies.
I’d have to think that, if a woman is considering whether to have an abortion, and not just rushing into it one way or another, she’d be thinking of both subjects. After all, the condition of the baby and the mother are at least somewhat interlinked. (growing up with, or without, a mother, and what condition the mother would be in)
Now, I’ll only subtly point out how I find it funny you “attacked” Haylias for being “pro-choice” by calling him a “sick little boy” not many posts prior and you already seem to be going back, at least slightly, on your own word.
Anyway, so far as your idea of “going through the courts”, I already know that can take too long. Takes years up here for some cases to even get started. IMO, better way would be consulting a doctor and/or psychologist. Chances are, it would be faster, and those two are probably better fit to say whether a person is “right” to get an abortion in that sense. (considering biological and emotional factors of the case without having to go through the tediously long legal bullshit. Doctors aren’t usually mindless, either, got a bit of rationalization to them and could probably help dictate things)
Its never the “right” thing to do, but as I said before, sometimes its the best thing to do. No one will ever congradulate you and tell you your a great person for aborting a baby lol.
And no one even really SHOULD congratulate on an abortion. It makes no sense, like congratulating on getting a cut or some stupid thing. >.>
How is killing a baby the same as getting a cut? | | | 17 May 2009 07:48 pm |
Knight of Vermilion Rep: 68Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 52,704 ONLINE | King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Its the right thing to do to not kill it, but babies cause alot of problems, so sometimes its easiest just to kill it before its born.
But you would still call it murder, which is a criminal offence, no? And you DO still oppose abortion, yes?
It should be a court thing, like you need to go to court to decide if your situation justifies having an abortion. If your just a slut that happens to get pregnant because your to stupid to stay safe, then you should have to deal with taking care of a life, killing is the easy way out, but sometimes that is just wrong.
I’m not going to mention how quickly that could back up court systems. As it is up here, many cases can take years. When it comes to pregnancies, there aren’t years to spend.
Either way, that’s starting to border on “pro-choice” I believe, which is why I asked the second question.
It depends, it really isnt the womans body shes making the choice for, its the babies.
I’d have to think that, if a woman is considering whether to have an abortion, and not just rushing into it one way or another, she’d be thinking of both subjects. After all, the condition of the baby and the mother are at least somewhat interlinked. (growing up with, or without, a mother, and what condition the mother would be in)
Now, I’ll only subtly point out how I find it funny you “attacked” Haylias for being “pro-choice” by calling him a “sick little boy” not many posts prior and you already seem to be going back, at least slightly, on your own word.
Anyway, so far as your idea of “going through the courts”, I already know that can take too long. Takes years up here for some cases to even get started. IMO, better way would be consulting a doctor and/or psychologist. Chances are, it would be faster, and those two are probably better fit to say whether a person is “right” to get an abortion in that sense. (considering biological and emotional factors of the case without having to go through the tediously long legal bullshit. Doctors aren’t usually mindless, either, got a bit of rationalization to them and could probably help dictate things)
Its never the “right” thing to do, but as I said before, sometimes its the best thing to do. No one will ever congradulate you and tell you your a great person for aborting a baby lol.
And no one even really SHOULD congratulate on an abortion. It makes no sense, like congratulating on getting a cut or some stupid thing. >.>
How is killing a baby the same as getting a cut?
It isn’t; I’m using that as an example of something stupid you would congratulate someone for. Similar to how congratulating someone for getting an abortion would be.
| | | 17 May 2009 07:49 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 39Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,681 OFFLINE | More like congratulations for an operation. ---
| | | 17 May 2009 08:46 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 49 Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 4,226 OFFLINE | Or congratulating Boo for having made a sensible statement. :P ---
 | | | 18 May 2009 12:32 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31 Joined: 30 Jan 2009 Posts: 2,457 OFFLINE | Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
crys14 wrote:
Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:
So, Crys, I’m curious; what about the case that the abortion saves the life of the mother?
ok, lets say u are the mother, you would rather take somebody elses life so you can live? take their life before they can truly start to live? take away their chance of living? it would be better to have the kid and atleast take a shot at both of you living than actually just killing the baby right away without even giving them a chance
Consider a chance that:
A: The mother did not actually choose to have the child (whether this is rape or otherwise)
B: If the child is not aborted, it still has a low chance of survival, which could mean two deaths
No change of opinions?
nope.
A)if it wasnt a rape its her own fault and if it was, well just put it up for adoption instead of killing it
B: well they should still let it have any shot it has left in life. they shouldnt take away its life if it has any chance left
"Sometimes i feel like a butterfly trapped inside a cocoon
wishing i could spread my wings and fly away”
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31Joined: 30 Jan 2009 Posts: 2,457 OFFLINE | Haylias wrote:
King Boo wrote:
Haylias nli wrote:
A fetus is not a sentient being. It’s not murder, it’s like saying using Jenola is murder.
Its a living thing, maybe not completely a human yet, but in fast time it will be. Its the equivelent of going back in time and stabbing a woman in the stomach so the baby dies to kill someone in the future.
By definition no, it isn’t a living thing.
yes it is. it breathes and eats through the mother.
"Sometimes i feel like a butterfly trapped inside a cocoon
wishing i could spread my wings and fly away”
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