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[Quote] #121
18 May 2009 01:08 am
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crys14 wrote:

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Shaun of the Living nli wrote: People aren’t bodies, brains or even minds. The 'self' is our consciousness, being able to percieve our environement. A fetus in the first trimester of pregnancy is just a ball of mindless cells. Killing it is no more unethical than killing a zombie.

Besides, forcing a HIV positive woman, a woman who was raped, an underage girl or a person who was knocked up by a family member to give birth to and raise the child is unethical to both the woman and the child.


its more unethical to kill a baby. just cuz of a rape case it makes it right to kill a being? and they dont have to raise it they can take it to a fire station. if they do want to let abortion be legal then it should only be legal with a rape case. there should also be a suing or the cops involved knowing its a rape case. if the children were raped then maybe an abortion should be allowed although it isnt right. it is wrong. but regular people shouldnt kill their babies cuz they made a mistake and decided to have sex without using protection


But it’s not killing a being. It’s killing a mindless ball of cells that would develop and cause emotional trauma to the young girl, not to mention contribute to the terrible oversized human population.


if its a rape ok abort it although its wrong!!! read what i said!!! even if its a mindless ball of cells you are still depriving a being from having a life


Then howcome male masturbation isn’t genocide? It’s stopping millions of potential lives from developing. Millions more are destroyed during normal sex anyway for the 1 sperm that lives so even if you are reproducing every second all males are still mass murderers.

Potential life is a tricky thing anyway. My car is potential scrap, doesn’t mean it should be treated like scrap.


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Okay now since most if not all seem to see only the superficial view of this topic I’m going to ask several questions that should be on the same level of “EVIL”.

Should men stop wearing condoms and having visectamies?

Should women stop taking the pill and getting their tubes tied?

I know what your already thinking but when you respond I about to smash your heads into a concrete block called “Same shit different wrapper ".


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18 May 2009 01:10 am
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Shaun of the Living nli wrote:

crys14 wrote:

Shaun of the Living nli wrote:

crys14 wrote:

Shaun of the Living nli wrote: People aren’t bodies, brains or even minds. The 'self' is our consciousness, being able to percieve our environement. A fetus in the first trimester of pregnancy is just a ball of mindless cells. Killing it is no more unethical than killing a zombie.

Besides, forcing a HIV positive woman, a woman who was raped, an underage girl or a person who was knocked up by a family member to give birth to and raise the child is unethical to both the woman and the child.


its more unethical to kill a baby. just cuz of a rape case it makes it right to kill a being? and they dont have to raise it they can take it to a fire station. if they do want to let abortion be legal then it should only be legal with a rape case. there should also be a suing or the cops involved knowing its a rape case. if the children were raped then maybe an abortion should be allowed although it isnt right. it is wrong. but regular people shouldnt kill their babies cuz they made a mistake and decided to have sex without using protection


But it’s not killing a being. It’s killing a mindless ball of cells that would develop and cause emotional trauma to the young girl, not to mention contribute to the terrible oversized human population.


if its a rape ok abort it although its wrong!!! read what i said!!! even if its a mindless ball of cells you are still depriving a being from having a life


Then howcome male masturbation isn’t genocide? It’s stopping millions of potential lives from developing. Millions more are destroyed during normal sex anyway for the 1 sperm that lives so even if you are reproducing every second all males are still mass murderers.

Potential life is a tricky thing anyway. My car is potential scrap, doesn’t mean it should be treated like scrap.


um i never said a potential scrap should be treated like scrap. you did


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18 May 2009 01:12 am
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The MASK wrote: Okay now since most if not all seem to see only the superficial view of this topic I’m going to ask several questions that should be on the same level of “EVIL”.

Should men stop wearing condoms and having visectamies?

Should women stop taking the pill and getting their tubes tied?

I know what your already thinking but when you respond I about to smash your heads into a concrete block called “Same shit different wrapper ".


technically it aint a being until the sperm enters the egg


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18 May 2009 01:14 am
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crys14 wrote:

Shaun of the Living nli wrote:

crys14 wrote:

Shaun of the Living nli wrote:

crys14 wrote:

Shaun of the Living nli wrote: People aren’t bodies, brains or even minds. The 'self' is our consciousness, being able to percieve our environement. A fetus in the first trimester of pregnancy is just a ball of mindless cells. Killing it is no more unethical than killing a zombie.

Besides, forcing a HIV positive woman, a woman who was raped, an underage girl or a person who was knocked up by a family member to give birth to and raise the child is unethical to both the woman and the child.


its more unethical to kill a baby. just cuz of a rape case it makes it right to kill a being? and they dont have to raise it they can take it to a fire station. if they do want to let abortion be legal then it should only be legal with a rape case. there should also be a suing or the cops involved knowing its a rape case. if the children were raped then maybe an abortion should be allowed although it isnt right. it is wrong. but regular people shouldnt kill their babies cuz they made a mistake and decided to have sex without using protection


But it’s not killing a being. It’s killing a mindless ball of cells that would develop and cause emotional trauma to the young girl, not to mention contribute to the terrible oversized human population.


if its a rape ok abort it although its wrong!!! read what i said!!! even if its a mindless ball of cells you are still depriving a being from having a life


Then howcome male masturbation isn’t genocide? It’s stopping millions of potential lives from developing. Millions more are destroyed during normal sex anyway for the 1 sperm that lives so even if you are reproducing every second all males are still mass murderers.

Potential life is a tricky thing anyway. My car is potential scrap, doesn’t mean it should be treated like scrap.


um i never said a potential scrap should be treated like scrap. you did


You say potential things should be treated like what they might become so I used an example to illustrate my point.

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Shaun of the Living nli wrote:

crys14 wrote:

Shaun of the Living nli wrote:

crys14 wrote:

Shaun of the Living nli wrote:

crys14 wrote:

Shaun of the Living nli wrote: People aren’t bodies, brains or even minds. The 'self' is our consciousness, being able to percieve our environement. A fetus in the first trimester of pregnancy is just a ball of mindless cells. Killing it is no more unethical than killing a zombie.

Besides, forcing a HIV positive woman, a woman who was raped, an underage girl or a person who was knocked up by a family member to give birth to and raise the child is unethical to both the woman and the child.


its more unethical to kill a baby. just cuz of a rape case it makes it right to kill a being? and they dont have to raise it they can take it to a fire station. if they do want to let abortion be legal then it should only be legal with a rape case. there should also be a suing or the cops involved knowing its a rape case. if the children were raped then maybe an abortion should be allowed although it isnt right. it is wrong. but regular people shouldnt kill their babies cuz they made a mistake and decided to have sex without using protection


But it’s not killing a being. It’s killing a mindless ball of cells that would develop and cause emotional trauma to the young girl, not to mention contribute to the terrible oversized human population.


if its a rape ok abort it although its wrong!!! read what i said!!! even if its a mindless ball of cells you are still depriving a being from having a life


Then howcome male masturbation isn’t genocide? It’s stopping millions of potential lives from developing. Millions more are destroyed during normal sex anyway for the 1 sperm that lives so even if you are reproducing every second all males are still mass murderers.

Potential life is a tricky thing anyway. My car is potential scrap, doesn’t mean it should be treated like scrap.


um i never said a potential scrap should be treated like scrap. you did


You say potential things should be treated like what they might become so I used an example to illustrate my point.


cars and living beings are different


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18 May 2009 01:15 am
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crys14 wrote:

The MASK wrote: Okay now since most if not all seem to see only the superficial view of this topic I’m going to ask several questions that should be on the same level of “EVIL”.

Should men stop wearing condoms and having visectamies?

Should women stop taking the pill and getting their tubes tied?

I know what your already thinking but when you respond I about to smash your heads into a concrete block called “Same shit different wrapper ".


technically it aint a being until the sperm enters the egg


But it’s still as much an unconscious 'thing' with no intellect as much as the sperm is, so how is it any more of a 'being'?

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18 May 2009 01:17 am
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'cars and living being are different'

I’m a potential theif, but a living being. Should I be treated like a theif then?

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Shaun of the Living nli wrote:

crys14 wrote:

The MASK wrote: Okay now since most if not all seem to see only the superficial view of this topic I’m going to ask several questions that should be on the same level of “EVIL”.

Should men stop wearing condoms and having visectamies?

Should women stop taking the pill and getting their tubes tied?

I know what your already thinking but when you respond I about to smash your heads into a concrete block called “Same shit different wrapper ".


technically it aint a being until the sperm enters the egg


But it’s still as much an unconscious 'thing' with no intellect as much as the sperm is, so how is it any more of a 'being'?


because once its a 'fetus' it begins to form


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crys14 wrote:

The MASK wrote: Okay now since most if not all seem to see only the superficial view of this topic I’m going to ask several questions that should be on the same level of “EVIL”.

Should men stop wearing condoms and having visectamies?

Should women stop taking the pill and getting their tubes tied?

I know what your already thinking but when you respond I about to smash your heads into a concrete block called “Same shit different wrapper ".


technically it aint a being until the sperm enters the egg


Here where I smash your head into the concrete block.

In simplicity all your saying is “Depriving an unborn baby of potential life is EVIL” now I’m probably going too fast for you already and your skimming and reading and interpreting what you want to read.

Like, Shaun said in an over simplified way “It’s just mindless group of cells” not only is it mindless but in the first few weeks it genetically blank as well as in it’s not even human as if you wanted to you can make a women give birth to a fish but thats unethical. Now back to the the two questions those four methods are way of depriving potential life and no different then an abortion they all kill potential life.

In your mind you think “It could be the next Einstein don’t get abortion”.


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The MASK wrote:

crys14 wrote:

The MASK wrote: Okay now since most if not all seem to see only the superficial view of this topic I’m going to ask several questions that should be on the same level of “EVIL”.

Should men stop wearing condoms and having visectamies?

Should women stop taking the pill and getting their tubes tied?

I know what your already thinking but when you respond I about to smash your heads into a concrete block called “Same shit different wrapper ".


technically it aint a being until the sperm enters the egg


Here where I smash your head into the concrete block.

In simplicity all your saying is “Depriving an unborn baby of potential life is EVIL” now I’m probably going too fast for you already and your skimming and reading and interpreting what you want to read.

Like, Shaun said in an over simplified way “It’s just mindless group of cells” not only is it mindless but in the first few weeks it genetically blank as well as in it’s not even human as if you wanted to you can make a women give birth to a fish but thats unethical. Now back to the the two questions those four methods are way of depriving potential life and no different then an abortion they all kill potential life.

In your mind you think “It could be the next Einstein don’t get abortion”.


lol to the bottom part


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crys14 wrote:

The MASK wrote:

crys14 wrote:

The MASK wrote: Okay now since most if not all seem to see only the superficial view of this topic I’m going to ask several questions that should be on the same level of “EVIL”.

Should men stop wearing condoms and having visectamies?

Should women stop taking the pill and getting their tubes tied?

I know what your already thinking but when you respond I about to smash your heads into a concrete block called “Same shit different wrapper ".


technically it aint a being until the sperm enters the egg


Here where I smash your head into the concrete block.

In simplicity all your saying is “Depriving an unborn baby of potential life is EVIL” now I’m probably going too fast for you already and your skimming and reading and interpreting what you want to read.

Like, Shaun said in an over simplified way “It’s just mindless group of cells” not only is it mindless but in the first few weeks it genetically blank as well as in it’s not even human as if you wanted to you can make a women give birth to a fish but thats unethical. Now back to the the two questions those four methods are way of depriving potential life and no different then an abortion they all kill potential life.

In your mind you think “It could be the next Einstein don’t get abortion”.


lol to the bottom part


See only reading what you want.


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The MASK wrote:

crys14 wrote:

The MASK wrote:

crys14 wrote:

The MASK wrote: Okay now since most if not all seem to see only the superficial view of this topic I’m going to ask several questions that should be on the same level of “EVIL”.

Should men stop wearing condoms and having visectamies?

Should women stop taking the pill and getting their tubes tied?

I know what your already thinking but when you respond I about to smash your heads into a concrete block called “Same shit different wrapper ".


technically it aint a being until the sperm enters the egg


Here where I smash your head into the concrete block.

In simplicity all your saying is “Depriving an unborn baby of potential life is EVIL” now I’m probably going too fast for you already and your skimming and reading and interpreting what you want to read.

Like, Shaun said in an over simplified way “It’s just mindless group of cells” not only is it mindless but in the first few weeks it genetically blank as well as in it’s not even human as if you wanted to you can make a women give birth to a fish but thats unethical. Now back to the the two questions those four methods are way of depriving potential life and no different then an abortion they all kill potential life.

In your mind you think “It could be the next Einstein don’t get abortion”.


lol to the bottom part


See only reading what you want.


lol. i hadnt thought of that...the top i mean. but still its wrong and shouldnt be allowed unless its a rape case. its the mothers own fault for not using protection


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lol. i hadnt thought of that...the top i mean. but still its wrong and shouldnt be allowed unless its a rape case. its the mothers own fault for not using protection


No it’s up to who ever want’s an abortion and no it’s not wrong just like a women getting an operation so she can’t have children isn’t wrong. Maybe because your too young or naive but your unable to understand the whole thing surrounding abortion.


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crys14 wrote:

lol. i hadnt thought of that...the top i mean. but still its wrong and shouldnt be allowed unless its a rape case. its the mothers own fault for not using protection


No it’s up to who ever want’s an abortion and no it’s not wrong just like a women getting an operation so she can’t have children isn’t wrong. Maybe because your too young or naive but your unable to understand the whole thing surrounding abortion.


i hate being addressed as too young.... although i probably am. its probably that im too naive. i just think its wrong to punish a fetus for your own mistakes


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crys14 wrote:

The MASK wrote:

crys14 wrote:

lol. i hadnt thought of that...the top i mean. but still its wrong and shouldnt be allowed unless its a rape case. its the mothers own fault for not using protection


No it’s up to who ever want’s an abortion and no it’s not wrong just like a women getting an operation so she can’t have children isn’t wrong. Maybe because your too young or naive but your unable to understand the whole thing surrounding abortion.


i hate being addressed as too young.... although i probably am. its probably that im too naive. i just think its wrong to punish a fetus for your own mistakes


it’s not punishment. the little bastard is getting off light! if i were to step in and try to ruin some ones good time, i’d expect a bit of a beat down.


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Just make sure you only use those holes and you dumbasses won’t get pregnant!!


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Stix86 wrote:

crys14 wrote:

The MASK wrote:

crys14 wrote:

lol. i hadnt thought of that...the top i mean. but still its wrong and shouldnt be allowed unless its a rape case. its the mothers own fault for not using protection


No it’s up to who ever want’s an abortion and no it’s not wrong just like a women getting an operation so she can’t have children isn’t wrong. Maybe because your too young or naive but your unable to understand the whole thing surrounding abortion.


i hate being addressed as too young.... although i probably am. its probably that im too naive. i just think its wrong to punish a fetus for your own mistakes


it’s not punishment. the little bastard is getting off light! if i were to step in and try to ruin some ones good time, i’d expect a bit of a beat down.


its their own fault!!! her for lying with him and him for not using a condom!!! and can you please change your sig? its a bit disturbing...


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crys14 wrote:

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crys14 wrote:

lol. i hadnt thought of that...the top i mean. but still its wrong and shouldnt be allowed unless its a rape case. its the mothers own fault for not using protection


No it’s up to who ever want’s an abortion and no it’s not wrong just like a women getting an operation so she can’t have children isn’t wrong. Maybe because your too young or naive but your unable to understand the whole thing surrounding abortion.


i hate being addressed as too young.... although i probably am. its probably that im too naive. i just think its wrong to punish a fetus for your own mistakes


See this where your naivety make me cringe “Punish a fetus” what is that?!
Tell me seriously I want to know what makes abortion that devils cradle and things like birth control not since they’re are both essentially the same and THEY ARE.
Only one gamete from each parent are required to form an embryo million upon millions of male gametes (sperm) die because as soon as that first sperm cell makes contact with egg no other sperms are allowed to enter that means millions of potential lives die right there.


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