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say what you will.
why not ?
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blame who you want. it’s real common for people to want to blame others. hence you blaming americans. most of the world blames america for their problems.
No other government wages war like the US did in
KOREA
IRAN
VIETNAM
GUATEMALA
EGYPT
LEBANON
IRAQ
CHINA
PANAMA
VIETNAM
CUBA
GERMANY
LAOS
CUBA
IRAQ
PANAMA
INDONESIA
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
GUATEMALA
DETROIT
UNITED STATES
CAMBODIA
OMAN
LAOS
SOUTH DAKOTA
MIDEAST
CHILE
CAMBODIA
ANGOLA
IRAN
LIBYA
EL SALVADOR
NICARAGUA
LEBANON
GRENADA
HONDURAS
IRAN
LIBYA
BOLIVIA
IRAN
LIBYA
VIRGIN ISLANDS
PHILIPPINES
PANAMA
LIBERIA
SAUDI ARABIA
IRAQ
KUWAIT
LOS ANGELES
SOMALIA
YUGOSLAVIA
BOSNIA
HAITI
ZAIRE (CONGO)
LIBERIA
ALBANIA
SUDAN
AFGHANISTAN
IRAQ
YUGOSLAVIA
YEMEN
MACEDONIA
UNITED STATES
AFGHANISTAN
YEMEN
PHILIPPINES
COLOMBIA
IRAQ
LIBERIA
HAITI
PAKISTAN
SOMALIA
and this is just POST WW - II ...
some “noble country” of yours eh ?
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the obviouse truth behind it is that foreign governments blame the u.s. so they don’t have to take responsability for their greed or failures.
should saddam take responsibility of the civil war in iraq ?
or the Vietnamese ?
or the Pakistanis who are now suffering BECAUSE THE CIA FUNDED OSAMA BIN LADEN TILL 1989 WHEN HE BRED THE AL QAEDA WITH THE U.S. TAXPAYERS' FUNDS
believe it or not.. America has the blood of too many innocent lives on the stars and stripes .. hell its just another aggresive regime like the erstwhile European imperialistic nations
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it’s like china intentionaly slowing their out of control economic growth and blaming it on the u.s. or you jumping on the political or religious band wagon.
WTF Are you talking about ? the Chinese economy is OVERHEATING !! thats wots causing the slowdown .. not the US !
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and deciding to hate the u.s. cause some one told you to.
nobody told me to. Im an Indian , most here supposedly “lurve” the USofA .. so wtf i aint listening to nobody !
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at least the american people open their eyes after a few years. so many others just let the master pull their strings.
FEW YEARS ???
i say a FEW MILLION INNOCENT LIVES !
well who am i anyways .. i just wish more attacks on the US (NOT THE PEOPLE MIND YOU, I ABHOR THE SEPTEMBER 11th ATTACKS, whoever DID IT)
.. that the people come to their senses SOONER .... and remember wot Gandhi said .. “An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind”
cuz remember .. until the American toll in the Iraq war started rising .. nobody gave a shit to it ..
btw im not a Muslim or anything of that sorts.. in fact im quite Anti Islamic to the extent i believe the religion has done more harm than good.
No personal offense intended.
Thank you for letting me put my views across.
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what’s so funny about your list of contries is that most either atacked us first, asked for our help, un sent us in, or just did’t happen i also like the way several contries were on there twice.
i’ll space this out so people can read it a little easier.
veitnam; they asked for our help.
packastan?; i think you ment afganistan. the mujahadeen (or however it’s spelt) asked for our help cause they were fighting off a soviet invasion. the cold war was a neccesity because the soviets were trying to make everyone live as they were even if the resisted.
china; their reason for raising intrest rates was blamed on the the slowing u.s. economy and our housing bubble.
as for saddam hussein; I agree, but the people were lied to, and national pride has caused many a war. arch duke ferdinand’s assasination caused ww1, ww2, and the balkans issuse in the 90’s.
let’s not be so big on you’self either. india is a nuclear armed contry in a stalmate with packistan over cashmeir. maybe the eye poking should stop their.
and you’re being a bit of a hipocrite, quoting ghandi but hopping for more attacks? and how can you wish for attacks on america but not it’s people?
another thing our sodiers aren’t the rich decision makers. most join to go to colledge.
korea: un
somalia; un. lead by pakistani’s
i just noticed you threw some american citys in that list too...
the u.s. is the worlds scape goat. and people like you tend to fill that nationalist pride over here. so take a look inside yourself and realize you juat as guilty as any american.
i see those cheering animals every time an american soldier is killed and think “why should we let these war mongoring dogs live”. then i realize it’s not the american way. it’s not civilized.
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what’s so funny about your list of contries is that most either atacked us first, asked for our help, un sent us in, or just did’t happen i also like the way several contries were on there twice.
MOST OF the countries did NOT ask for help .. i BET YOU ON THAT
they were just a few marginalised folks .. who for their VESTED INTERESTS , LURED AMERICAN INTERESTS who in turn influenced the US to invade..
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packastan?; i think you ment afganistan. the mujahadeen (or however it’s spelt) asked for our help cause they were fighting off a soviet invasion. the cold war was a neccesity because the soviets were trying to make everyone live as they were even if the resisted.
i mean PAKISTAN. its ALMOST in a civil war cuz of its own terrorists.. who were created using US MONEY
and Afghanistan .. al stay off it .. cuz i believe the US did a GOOD thing by Invading the Taleban .. the mujahideen are shit anyways and were causing the whole region too much trouble
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china; their reason for raising intrest rates was blamed on the the slowing u.s. economy and our housing bubble.
they raised it cuz their own economy was overheating and the inflation was getting out of control anyone good enought in economics will tell you that
yes the US housing market does influence the world but no one should be BLAMING it for sure, cuz its a MARKET for heavenssake and there gonna be ups and downs
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as for saddam hussein; I agree, but the people were lied to, and national pride has caused many a war. arch duke ferdinand’s assasination caused ww1, ww2, and the balkans issuse in the 90’s.
and americans voted for Bush AGAIN .. no excuse their .. the American people are guilty as sin!
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let’s not be so big on you’self either. india is a nuclear armed contry in a stalmate with packistan over cashmeir. maybe the eye poking should stop their.
Kashmir VOTED TO BE A PART OF INDIA
AMERICANS ASSISTED THE PAKISTANI INVASION OF KASHMIR in 1947, EVERYONE knows that ..
Pakistan is a terror threat, probably the biggest right now..
and WHY should i not get big on 'myself' [sic]?
India HAS NOT INVADED ANY COUNTRY IN THE LAST 10,000 YEARS
so why isnt it obvious who’s right on the Kashmir issue ?
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and you’re being a bit of a hipocrite, quoting ghandi but hopping for more attacks? and how can you wish for attacks on america but not it’s people?
I wish for the Americans to LOSE THEIR HOLD OVER THE WORLD , esp be attacked at their economy (though i sincerely hate wishing ill for a country i admire in a lot many ways) ...
i am against killing of any sorts right upto the death sentence and also meat eating .. and the sights of people jumping out of the buring WTC towers or a dictator hanging and his video being shot bring out the same disgust and disappointment in me ..
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another thing our sodiers aren’t the rich decision makers. most join to go to colledge.
STOP TALKING LIKE JOHN KERRY
secondly they are not too intelligent BECAUSE THEY CANT GO TO COLLEGE ON THEIR OWN
and thats cuz EDUCATION IS EXPENSIVE
i still maintain .. the biggest mistake of George Bush after the military misadventures are:
Healthcare
EDucation ..
and lack of attention in these, mark my words, shall bring about calamities in the American economy ..
so stop blaming your soldiers, its pathetic enough they’re being LIED to fight for their lives... and i feel really sad to see them die.
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i just noticed you threw some american citys in that list too...
http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interventions.html
there.. american military INTERVENTION .. against the lakotas and other tribes.. .. thats an agression as it can be..
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the u.s. is the worlds scape goat.
its the OTHER WAY ROUND.
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and people like you tend to fill that nationalist pride over here. so take a look inside yourself and realize you juat as guilty as any american.
No I’m not quilty as any American who voted for George Bush.
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i see those cheering animals every time an american soldier is killed and think “why should we let these war mongoring dogs live”. then i realize it’s not the american way. it’s not civilized.
Those “dogs” are the same ones that kill Indians in Kashmir and in my own city ...
no country has suffered at the hands of Islamic terrorism like India has.. almost a 100,000 deaths since 1950 .. almost completely perpetrated by Pakistan...
so you need to realize where the problems lie.
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you don’t think constantly seeing this kind of stuff from people is gunna influence the american voter? we get this every time we turn on the tv. you’re just as guilty, if you’re a part of the cycle you’re a part of the problem.
and once again with china. this is a fact that china used the u.s. economy as the reason for slowing growth so it would’nt get out of control. did you hear the word fact.
the chinese government did’t say we need to slow growth to prevent a possible colapse. they said it’s the u.s. fault.
KOREA
VIETNAM
CHILE
EL SALVADOR
NICARAGUA
HONDURAS
BOLIVIA
PHILIPPINES
KUWAIT
these contries did ask for help. this was off the to of my head. it took me a while to weed out all the doulble posts and malarki. you aslo said those were post ww2, but if that were the case you would’nt have added all the native american stuff. that with all the added stuff snd double, tripple, and quadruple post is a clear sign of being decietful.
like i said, say what you will but you just as big a problem as any american. spreading hatered only brings more hatred, and being dishonest sbout it only brings reason for americans to vote for people like bush.
try enlighting people. this is anti american propaganda, and taht is all it is.
it’s great that your contry hasn’t been expanding for ten thousand years. but that’s irrelivant.
you seem to have singled americans out. why haven’t you decided to bring up any of the other developing nations between the 1500-1800’s?
that’s right. they are not the big satan. america is the chosen scape goat.
maybe when i have time i’ll go through your list some more and weed out more fluff.
just do a u.n. list or a u.s. attacked u.s. list.
it’s unfortunate that americans have to be on their gaurd from people like you who only wish harm apon us.
of course. we’ll never know cause people and governments will always have the u.s. to blame the problems of the world on. but will always want the wealth we share with it.
continue spreading your propaganda. it’s nothing new to us.
packistan! exactly that country was a mess from the get go, and you found a way to blame it on the U.S. fact is a bunch of people like you who blame all the worlds problems on the us don’t like the government dealing with the u.s.. we gave the government, not rebels, money and we gave it to them so we could use the airspace to get into pakistan. and once again people who don’t like the u.s. are bringing the country to the brink. anywhere we go someone has to point thier finger at us. sorry, i forgot that we are supposed to sit back and let people kill us.
the countries you name libya, columbia, panama, philipines. maybe you should do some research.
tell me why you’re not talking about the u.s. liberaton of the pacific. or how the the u.s. stopped the spread of the nazi’s, or how the u.s. give more aid then any other country? cause it' doesn’t go with your propaganda. the world needs a country like the u.s. it gives every country some one to take from and some one to blame their problems on all at the same time.
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i don’t actually read the entirety of his post cause there a a poor attempt at twisting words. and he’s being very vauge. i’ll clear it up.
I don’t blame our troops. i blame meat puppets across the across the globe for their lack of accountability. i’m supposed to sit back and be ok with people saying they want me and my family to suffer, but when asked “no, that’s not how it was meant”. people cry when we fund are friends or our enemies enimies. but they don’t want us using troops either.
people across the globe blame the u.s. and it’s citizens for the failure of their leaders and citizens. it’s as simple as, do something for your country, and stop blaming ours.
pretty fucking simple. now stop expecting me to be ok with you wanting to bring harm to my family.
strangely enough, people her are willing to loose their lives for their family.
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“India HAS NOT INVADED ANY COUNTRY IN THE LAST 10,000 YEARS”
Yep isntead it’s had several different conquerors take it over
the mongols, Brits, etc.
just thought i’d point that out 
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The basic issue with world is Religion. It has caused the most deaths in history of Mankind.
Hinduism states
“The truth is One, but different Sages call it by Different Names”
There teachings also state that if somebody already believes in a certain religon they are NOT suppose to go out of there way to convert them to Hinduism.
This logic in itself ends 90% of conflict.
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i thought i edited this thing out last night. it was in poor taste.
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The basic issue with world is Religion. It has caused the most deaths in history of Mankind.
Hinduism states
“The truth is One, but different Sages call it by Different Names”
There teachings also state that if somebody already believes in a certain religon they are NOT suppose to go out of there way to convert them to Hinduism.
This logic in itself ends 90% of conflict.
What about Communists? They were Atheist and they killed 100 million people!
Sure, Theists might have killed more people, but the Atheists have still killed a lot.
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Demon Slayer wrote:
“India HAS NOT INVADED ANY COUNTRY IN THE LAST 10,000 YEARS”
Yep isntead it’s had several different conquerors take it over
the mongols, Brits, etc.
just thought i’d point that out 
we’re still standing and doing MUCH better than Mongolia/Afghanistan/Pakistan/Iran .. (the countries that invaded India)
and soon enough .. India could rise as a more decisive power than Britain .. well most of Britain is getting runover by Indians anyways
India and China have NEVER been aggressionists (China at least till the prev century)
they’ve been nations of TRADERS AND BUSINESSMEN .. and thats exactly wot we are back doing ..
the RICHEST country till mid 1700s ..
is now back in business baby !!
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Dr.Ron Paul wrote:
The basic issue with world is Religion. It has caused the most deaths in history of Mankind.
Hinduism states
“The truth is One, but different Sages call it by Different Names”
There teachings also state that if somebody already believes in a certain religon they are NOT suppose to go out of there way to convert them to Hinduism.
This logic in itself ends 90% of conflict.
Hinduism does not accept conversion. Get your facts right.
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THE_PAIN wrote:
Demon Slayer wrote:
“India HAS NOT INVADED ANY COUNTRY IN THE LAST 10,000 YEARS”
Yep isntead it’s had several different conquerors take it over
the mongols, Brits, etc.
just thought i’d point that out 
we’re still standing and doing MUCH better than Mongolia/Afghanistan/Pakistan/Iran .. (the countries that invaded India)
and soon enough .. India could rise as a more decisive power than Britain .. well most of Britain is getting runover by Indians anyways
India and China have NEVER been aggressionists (China at least till the prev century)
they’ve been nations of TRADERS AND BUSINESSMEN .. and thats exactly wot we are back doing ..
the RICHEST country till mid 1700s ..
is now back in business baby !!
rich country till the 1700’s? what the hell happened to you guys? did you all give up and start smoking opiuim? and i thought indias main export was cheap labor and not being able to help me when i’m calling for tech support.
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Demon Slayer wrote:
“India HAS NOT INVADED ANY COUNTRY IN THE LAST 10,000 YEARS”
Yep isntead it’s had several different conquerors take it over
the mongols, Brits, etc.
just thought i’d point that out 
we’re still standing and doing MUCH better than Mongolia/Afghanistan/Pakistan/Iran .. (the countries that invaded India)
and soon enough .. India could rise as a more decisive power than Britain .. well most of Britain is getting runover by Indians anyways
India and China have NEVER been aggressionists (China at least till the prev century)
they’ve been nations of TRADERS AND BUSINESSMEN .. and thats exactly wot we are back doing ..
the RICHEST country till mid 1700s ..
is now back in business baby !!
rich country till the 1700’s? what the hell happened to you guys? did you all give up and start smoking opiuim? and i thought indias main export was cheap labor and not being able to help me when i’m calling for tech support.
ROFL @ tech support. It’s funny because it’s true.
Still... I feel sorry for the Indians living in India because they have a caste system. They can’t help having to slave off all day because they were born in the labor caste. If you’re going to hire them to call people overseas, you might as well pay them properly, not rip them off like the cheap fat cat bastards do. But I guess if they did that, they’d have no motive to hire the Indians in the first place.
Looks like they lose either way...
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THE_PAIN wrote:
Demon Slayer wrote:
“India HAS NOT INVADED ANY COUNTRY IN THE LAST 10,000 YEARS”
Yep isntead it’s had several different conquerors take it over
the mongols, Brits, etc.
just thought i’d point that out 
we’re still standing and doing MUCH better than Mongolia/Afghanistan/Pakistan/Iran .. (the countries that invaded India)
and soon enough .. India could rise as a more decisive power than Britain .. well most of Britain is getting runover by Indians anyways
India and China have NEVER been aggressionists (China at least till the prev century)
they’ve been nations of TRADERS AND BUSINESSMEN .. and thats exactly wot we are back doing ..
the RICHEST country till mid 1700s ..
is now back in business baby !!
yes India is better now...and actually China was very warlike till recently.
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rich country till the 1700’s? what the hell happened to you guys? did you all give up and start smoking opiuim? and i thought indias main export was cheap labor and not being able to help me when i’m calling for tech support.
recall the “dark ages” of europe ? .. thats wot happened.. social decadence and lack of integrity amongst rulers.. and a HUGE loss in a battle to the Afghans .. The british came in .. and literally DESTROYED the whole subcontinent
you want proof that India was the richest and THE place to be in those days ?
Christopher Columbus discovered the US when he actually was looking for INDIA !(thats a fact for sure, trust me on that)
and yeah the “cheap labour” and “tech support” thingy .. well thats just the beginning, it wont be long before Indian businesses start making their presence(like Japan that is, but in a very non-violent , non-aggressionist way)
and im not bullshitting i admit we got issues, but this nation has had almost 5,000 'recorded' prosperous years, 250 years of fucking up aint all that bad 
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Sean of the Living wrote:
ROFL @ tech support. It’s funny because it’s true.
Still... I feel sorry for the Indians living in India because they have a caste system. They can’t help having to slave off all day because they were born in the labor caste. If you’re going to hire them to call people overseas, you might as well pay them properly, not rip them off like the cheap fat cat bastards do.
Looks like they lose either way...
I belong to the 'high caste', the priestly clan etc .. but trust me .. its RACISM
we are racially different from the remaining , rather 'more' darkskinned Indians from the 'lower' castes
i admit its an evil , but its like racism in The west against those of african origin.. you cant wish it away overnight ... its a gradual process.
Urban indians choose not to practice caste discrimination, but its the govt thats doing it now through “reverse discrimination” by reservations etc..
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But I guess if they did that, they’d have no motive to hire the Indians in the first place.
Trust me, there is. The indian masses are better students due to a strict family system and a rather structured form of life. in fact its a almost a taboo if u didnt finish up your Post grad by 21 or 22 .. (amongst the middle and upper classes that is)
as for 'labour' , well , they are the poor folks and they gonna be miserable wherevr..the US or the UK .. the poor suffer the most
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this should clear things up, A BIT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_economy_of_India
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