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[Quote] #21
16 Oct 2007 21:47
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Zucas wrote:

Maggot Face wrote:

Zucas wrote:

Maggot Face wrote: Probably, but who gives a shit?

Don’t do anything bad, don’t associate with anything bad, and you’ll be fine. Keep your nose where it belongs, and you’re fine.



Yea oh that’s definetly what they want to do. Don’t question the government, don’t care what they do, don’t look into truth enabling research, and of course dont' start up action to expose them or change something.

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT’S CALLED. A dictatorship. America is based on the background to stop shit like that and you want us to be like that. Your supposed to ask questions. Your supposed take part in politics. Your supposed to have access to all information. And of course your supposed to take action when you deem it necessary.

Get your head out of the bullshit and read the Constitution and it says exaclty what I just told you. This country is build on the grounds to exercise your freedom. How about you actually start being Patriotic and acting like a true American and not a 3rd world citizen striving under a complete authoritiarian rule. Question, Research, and Act.



I thought I’ve made it clear that I support Fascism. o.o;

I’m fine with Authoritarianism if it’s effective. May not be the most fun, but hey. If you’re born into it, you won’t miss the freedoms. But hey, that’s just me.

And hey, authoritarian doesn’t mean 3rd world.

The Soviet Union was the only other major superpower in human history. The weren’t exactly all about freedom.



Well if you like authoritarianism then what the hell are you doing in America. The country is supposed to be the exact opposite of that. Seriously try a country with a monarchy or theocracy or some communist government. They fit you better.


Cus he doesn’t have to leave. Just like people who hate the country like flag burners.


[Quote] #22
17 Oct 2007 00:28
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Zucas wrote:

Maggot Face wrote:

Zucas wrote:

Maggot Face wrote: Probably, but who gives a shit?

Don’t do anything bad, don’t associate with anything bad, and you’ll be fine. Keep your nose where it belongs, and you’re fine.



Yea oh that’s definetly what they want to do. Don’t question the government, don’t care what they do, don’t look into truth enabling research, and of course dont' start up action to expose them or change something.

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT’S CALLED. A dictatorship. America is based on the background to stop shit like that and you want us to be like that. Your supposed to ask questions. Your supposed take part in politics. Your supposed to have access to all information. And of course your supposed to take action when you deem it necessary.

Get your head out of the bullshit and read the Constitution and it says exaclty what I just told you. This country is build on the grounds to exercise your freedom. How about you actually start being Patriotic and acting like a true American and not a 3rd world citizen striving under a complete authoritiarian rule. Question, Research, and Act.



I thought I’ve made it clear that I support Fascism. o.o;

I’m fine with Authoritarianism if it’s effective. May not be the most fun, but hey. If you’re born into it, you won’t miss the freedoms. But hey, that’s just me.

And hey, authoritarian doesn’t mean 3rd world.

The Soviet Union was the only other major superpower in human history. The weren’t exactly all about freedom.



Well if you like authoritarianism then what the hell are you doing in America. The country is supposed to be the exact opposite of that. Seriously try a country with a monarchy or theocracy or some communist government. They fit you better.



Because I have the right and freedom to live here. And I exercise it.

And just because I like a government system, doesn’t mean I want to live in a country with it. There’s practicality, and then there’s ideality (I don’t care if it’s a word or not >_>wink. I think that authoritarianism theoretically has more potential for success, assuming the leader is competent and makes the nation focus on productive goals.

And also, I’m a right wing. Communism is too left.

But ideally, I’d much rather have freedoms. Is that more practical? Not necessarily. Is it more pleasant? Hell yes.


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[Quote] #23
17 Oct 2007 15:10
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Anyway, like maggot said, stay away from trouble and you’ll be fine.

[Quote] #24
17 Oct 2007 18:48
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Maggot Face wrote:

Zucas wrote:

Maggot Face wrote:

Zucas wrote:

Maggot Face wrote: Probably, but who gives a shit?

Don’t do anything bad, don’t associate with anything bad, and you’ll be fine. Keep your nose where it belongs, and you’re fine.



Yea oh that’s definetly what they want to do. Don’t question the government, don’t care what they do, don’t look into truth enabling research, and of course dont' start up action to expose them or change something.

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT’S CALLED. A dictatorship. America is based on the background to stop shit like that and you want us to be like that. Your supposed to ask questions. Your supposed take part in politics. Your supposed to have access to all information. And of course your supposed to take action when you deem it necessary.

Get your head out of the bullshit and read the Constitution and it says exaclty what I just told you. This country is build on the grounds to exercise your freedom. How about you actually start being Patriotic and acting like a true American and not a 3rd world citizen striving under a complete authoritiarian rule. Question, Research, and Act.



I thought I’ve made it clear that I support Fascism. o.o;

I’m fine with Authoritarianism if it’s effective. May not be the most fun, but hey. If you’re born into it, you won’t miss the freedoms. But hey, that’s just me.

And hey, authoritarian doesn’t mean 3rd world.

The Soviet Union was the only other major superpower in human history. The weren’t exactly all about freedom.



Well if you like authoritarianism then what the hell are you doing in America. The country is supposed to be the exact opposite of that. Seriously try a country with a monarchy or theocracy or some communist government. They fit you better.



Because I have the right and freedom to live here. And I exercise it.

And just because I like a government system, doesn’t mean I want to live in a country with it. There’s practicality, and then there’s ideality (I don’t care if it’s a word or not >_>wink. I think that authoritarianism theoretically has more potential for success, assuming the leader is competent and makes the nation focus on productive goals.

And also, I’m a right wing. Communism is too left.

But ideally, I’d much rather have freedoms. Is that more practical? Not necessarily. Is it more pleasant? Hell yes.


Well then just be that way. I’m glad you enjoy your freedoms while you mock the style of government that allows them. Well I can’t say if you’ll be happy or glad when our government starts turning towards facism as your hypocrisy doesn’t allow me to know what you think aboug politics.


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Edited 17 Oct 2007 18:54 by Zucas
[Quote] #25
17 Oct 2007 18:50
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Totalitus wrote: Anyway, like maggot said, stay away from trouble and you’ll be fine.



One man’s definition of trouble may not be the same as another. Such as a lawyer defending a supposed terrorist, who was an american citizen, that was brtually tortured in Guantanomo under false suspictions would you say that the lawyer is getting into trouble or is he a true patriot.


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Edited 17 Oct 2007 18:52 by Zucas
[Quote] #26
17 Oct 2007 19:01
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Zucas wrote:

Totalitus wrote: Anyway, like maggot said, stay away from trouble and you’ll be fine.



One man’s definition of trouble may not be the same as another. Such as a lawyer defending a supposed terrorist, who was an american citizen, that was brtually tortured in Guantanomo under false suspictions would you say that the lawyer is getting into trouble or is he a true patriot.


Neither. He’s just doing his job defending the guy who hired him/he was assigned to.

But the other guy...what was he up to before hand? Hm? I doubt he was picking daises and selling peanuts.

Edited 17 Oct 2007 19:02 by Totalitus
[Quote] #27
17 Oct 2007 19:12
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Totalitus wrote: Anyway, like maggot said, stay away from trouble and you’ll be fine.



FBI wrongfully arrests lawyer

Muslim men arrested without being charged


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[Quote] #28
17 Oct 2007 19:12
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Totalitus wrote:

Zucas wrote:

Totalitus wrote: Anyway, like maggot said, stay away from trouble and you’ll be fine.



One man’s definition of trouble may not be the same as another. Such as a lawyer defending a supposed terrorist, who was an american citizen, that was brtually tortured in Guantanomo under false suspictions would you say that the lawyer is getting into trouble or is he a true patriot.


Neither. He’s just doing his job defending the guy who hired him/he was assigned to.

But the other guy...what was he up to before hand? Hm? I doubt he was picking daises and selling peanuts.



Nope he was simply arrested because he followed the Islamic faith.


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Etain wrote:

Totalitus wrote: Anyway, like maggot said, stay away from trouble and you’ll be fine.



FBI wrongfully arrests lawyer

Muslim men arrested without being charged



Yea exactly that. Thx Etain.


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[Quote] #30
17 Oct 2007 21:15
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Also, the new passports have chips inside them that allow the government to track wherever you are. I’m pretty sure they also contain basic info about you.


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[Quote] #31
17 Oct 2007 22:39
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ramunematt wrote: Also, the new passports have chips inside them that allow the government to track wherever you are. I’m pretty sure they also contain basic info about you.



Which is once again completely wrong. You have to agree to that, not have them enforced on you simply to buy a passport.


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[Quote] #32
17 Oct 2007 23:09
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Zucas wrote:

Maggot Face wrote:

Zucas wrote:

Maggot Face wrote:

Zucas wrote:

Maggot Face wrote: Probably, but who gives a shit?

Don’t do anything bad, don’t associate with anything bad, and you’ll be fine. Keep your nose where it belongs, and you’re fine.



Yea oh that’s definetly what they want to do. Don’t question the government, don’t care what they do, don’t look into truth enabling research, and of course dont' start up action to expose them or change something.

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT’S CALLED. A dictatorship. America is based on the background to stop shit like that and you want us to be like that. Your supposed to ask questions. Your supposed take part in politics. Your supposed to have access to all information. And of course your supposed to take action when you deem it necessary.

Get your head out of the bullshit and read the Constitution and it says exaclty what I just told you. This country is build on the grounds to exercise your freedom. How about you actually start being Patriotic and acting like a true American and not a 3rd world citizen striving under a complete authoritiarian rule. Question, Research, and Act.



I thought I’ve made it clear that I support Fascism. o.o;

I’m fine with Authoritarianism if it’s effective. May not be the most fun, but hey. If you’re born into it, you won’t miss the freedoms. But hey, that’s just me.

And hey, authoritarian doesn’t mean 3rd world.

The Soviet Union was the only other major superpower in human history. The weren’t exactly all about freedom.



Well if you like authoritarianism then what the hell are you doing in America. The country is supposed to be the exact opposite of that. Seriously try a country with a monarchy or theocracy or some communist government. They fit you better.



Because I have the right and freedom to live here. And I exercise it.

And just because I like a government system, doesn’t mean I want to live in a country with it. There’s practicality, and then there’s ideality (I don’t care if it’s a word or not >_>wink. I think that authoritarianism theoretically has more potential for success, assuming the leader is competent and makes the nation focus on productive goals.

And also, I’m a right wing. Communism is too left.

But ideally, I’d much rather have freedoms. Is that more practical? Not necessarily. Is it more pleasant? Hell yes.


Well then just be that way. I’m glad you enjoy your freedoms while you mock the style of government that allows them. Well I can’t say if you’ll be happy or glad when our government starts turning towards facism as your hypocrisy doesn’t allow me to know what you think aboug politics.



I’m glad you’re glad. And as for turning to fascism, I’ll admit, it wouldn’t be my favorite thing, I’d get the fuck over it. I mean, hey. At least it’s not some moronic anarchy where everything falls to pieces. It might not be as pleasant, but it’s more effective.

The thing about fascism is it’s better for the state than the people. Democracy is better for the people than the state.

As long as we don’t descend into anarchy I’m happy. I think people should be grateful for the government being there in the first place. Everyone and everything has its flaws. =/


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[Quote] #33
05 Dec 2007 02:34
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You got nothing to worry about unless you are planning a Terrorist Attack.

[Quote] #34
05 Dec 2007 22:04
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Dupontx123 wrote: You got nothing to worry about unless you are planning a Terrorist Attack.



Obviously not. Most “terrorists” that are arrest without due process of law and habeaus corpus are sent to Guantanomo and then released a few days later as they find nothing on them. Is that justice my friend.


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[Quote] #35
07 Dec 2007 14:11
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Zucas wrote:

Dupontx123 wrote: You got nothing to worry about unless you are planning a Terrorist Attack.



Obviously not. Most “terrorists” that are arrest without due process of law and habeaus corpus are sent to Guantanomo and then released a few days later as they find nothing on them. Is that justice my friend.



Can you name some?

[Quote] #36
07 Dec 2007 17:55
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Don’t need to. You initated this quote section, meaning you need to prove me wrong haha. Not the other way around.


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[Quote] #37
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I’m really scared now. Thanks a lot!!! sad

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i dont really care, why because im not a liberalist. conservatives forever!

*subway-eat flesh*


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