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21 May 2009 11:58 pm
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Not sure if this should go in politics or religion but on FOX news this guy who was supporting Gay marriage said that in 5 years conservative christians (catholics, evangelicals, African American ministers and their congregations etc) will be in full support of same sex marriage. I strongly disagree, especially since these groups don’t see this issue as a mere civil rights issue. Perhaps people from these groups will break away, and we’ll see former conservative christians supporting same sex marriage, (not saying it isn’t possible for some one to believe otherwise) but you really can’t look at the Bible literally and still support same sex marriage. IMO

But what do you all think? Will conservative christians (evangelicals etc) generally change their beliefs on same sex marriage (as a group)?
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some one new wrote: Not sure if this should go in politics or religion but on FOX news this guy who was supporting Gay marriage said that in 5 years conservative christians (catholics, evangelicals, African American ministers and their congregations etc) will be in full support of same sex marriage. I strongly disagree, especially since these groups don’t see this issue as a mere civil rights issue. Perhaps people from these groups will break away, and we’ll see former conservative christians supporting same sex marriage, (not saying it isn’t possible for some one to believe otherwise) but you really can’t look at the Bible literally and still support same sex marriage. IMO

But what do you all think? Will conservative christians (evangelicals etc) generally change their beliefs on same sex marriage (as a group)?

that your first mistake.
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22 May 2009 12:03 am
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I know the true answer to that but nobody on here wants to hear it.
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22 May 2009 12:04 am
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Chilly man wrote: I know the true answer to that but nobody on here wants to hear it.

say it.
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Give it time.
I’m guessing that more states are gonna legalize it over time
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22 May 2009 12:06 am
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The MaFuckin Supra wrote:
some one new wrote: Not sure if this should go in politics or religion but on FOX news this guy who was supporting Gay marriage said that in 5 years conservative christians (catholics, evangelicals, African American ministers and their congregations etc) will be in full support of same sex marriage. I strongly disagree, especially since these groups don’t see this issue as a mere civil rights issue. Perhaps people from these groups will break away, and we’ll see former conservative christians supporting same sex marriage, (not saying it isn’t possible for some one to believe otherwise) but you really can’t look at the Bible literally and still support same sex marriage. IMO

But what do you all think? Will conservative christians (evangelicals etc) generally change their beliefs on same sex marriage (as a group)?

that your first mistake.

Technically FOX news is the conservative network so they wouldn’t agree with a statement like that. Now if that point was made on msnbc I’d have to take it with a grain of salt since its more liberal either way.
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22 May 2009 12:09 am
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Zeoc713 wrote: Give it time.
I’m guessing that more states are gonna legalize it over time

I’m sure it will be legalized but I’m also sure that people (as a group) who identify themselves as some sort of conservative christian will not change their mind about it. (At least not without changing their belief system first)
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True Christians will disappear within a year or two, if not sooner, and the ones left will be false Christians and will accept gay marriage in the new world religion.
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some one new is here still wrote:
Zeoc713 wrote: Give it time.
I’m guessing that more states are gonna legalize it over time

I’m sure it will be legalized but I’m also sure that people (as a group) who identify themselves as some sort of conservative christian will not change their mind about it. (At least not without changing their belief system first)


I know they won’t.

And we can’t expect them to. It’s what they believe is right, and it’s their right to think that way. However I think the issue is going to be overridden by the whole equal rights thing.
Know what I mean?
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22 May 2009 12:27 am
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Not in 5 years, but those groups will eventually HAVE to support same sex marriage in the same way that christianity had to stop supporting slavery.
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22 May 2009 12:28 am
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Zeoc713 wrote:
some one new is here still wrote:
Zeoc713 wrote: Give it time.
I’m guessing that more states are gonna legalize it over time

I’m sure it will be legalized but I’m also sure that people (as a group) who identify themselves as some sort of conservative christian will not change their mind about it. (At least not without changing their belief system first)


I know they won’t.

And we can’t expect them to. It’s what they believe is right, and it’s their right to think that way. However I think the issue is going to be overridden by the whole equal rights thing.
Know what I mean?

It will be and pretty much is.
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22 May 2009 12:29 am
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ramunematt wrote: Not in 5 years, but those groups will eventually HAVE to support same sex marriage in the same way that christianity had to stop supporting slavery.

Its not the same. Unlike slavery, Christians who are against same sex marriage have nothing to lose or gain for their beliefs.
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22 May 2009 12:31 am
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Westboro Baptist Church in response to a question about whether or not they are involved with the KKK or neo-nazi group.


No. We don’t believe in physical violence of any kind, and the Scripture doesn’t support racism. God never says “thou shalt not be black." However, He does say, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (Leviticus 18:22).
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ramunematt wrote: Not in 5 years, but those groups will eventually HAVE to support same sex marriage in the same way that christianity had to stop supporting slavery.

impossible.
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Why impossible? Society will eventually be more accepting of gay rights and if christianity wants to survive when that happens then they better go along with it.
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22 May 2009 05:41 pm
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I am firmly against gay marriage.
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22 May 2009 05:46 pm
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ramunematt wrote: Why impossible? Society will eventually be more accepting of gay rights and if christianity wants to survive when that happens then they better go along with it.

Christianity will more likely fade away if it conforms to the ways of the world.
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i have no problem with these obaminations getting married. i think the inability to breed is a good thing.
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25 May 2009 01:09 pm
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Gay couples are fine but I do not think they should adopt. Kids raised by gays are more likely to experiment.
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some one new wrote: Westboro Baptist Church in response to a question about whether or not they are involved with the KKK or neo-nazi group.


No. We don’t believe in physical violence of any kind, and the Scripture doesn’t support racism. God never says “thou shalt not be black." However, He does say, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (Leviticus 18:22).

It also says in galations 2: 16
16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Faith in jebus, not obeying the “law” gets you to heaven...What does Leviticus mean again??? Oh yeah, LAW.....
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