Gplex wrote:
Yes, and thats the only logical way to run fair world.
To an extent
Can you explain just a little be more please.
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Cid wrote:
You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews
some one new wrote:
Westboro Baptist Church in response to a question about whether or not they are involved with the KKK or neo-nazi group.
No. We don’t believe in physical violence of any kind, and the Scripture doesn’t support racism. God never says “thou shalt not be black." However, He does say, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (Leviticus 18:22).
It also says in galations 2: 16
16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Faith in Jesus, not obeying the “law” gets you to heaven...What does Leviticus mean again??? Oh yeah, LAW.....
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That would be a good point if Leviticus was the only book in the Bible that spoke out against it.
Romans 1
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Look at it this way...When paul wrote Romans, being a jew used he referenced the torah or the “law of moses”. See that??? Even then Paul knew that the church that he was helping to build needed to be ALL inclusive. Jews and gentiles. Sinners and saints...Salvation comes from jesus and jesus alone in Pauls eyes. Was homosexuality a sin according to paul? Yes it was. But Paul was prepared for that by giving us Galations 2:16.
--- "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts
some one new wrote:
Westboro Baptist Church in response to a question about whether or not they are involved with the KKK or neo-nazi group.
No. We don’t believe in physical violence of any kind, and the Scripture doesn’t support racism. God never says “thou shalt not be black." However, He does say, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (Leviticus 18:22).
It also says in galations 2: 16
16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Faith in Jesus, not obeying the “law” gets you to heaven...What does Leviticus mean again??? Oh yeah, LAW.....
BUMP!!!!
Fixed
That would be a good point if Leviticus was the only book in the Bible that spoke out against it.
Romans 1
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Look at it this way...When paul wrote Romans, being a jew used he referenced the torah or the “law of moses”. See that??? Even then Paul knew that the church that he was helping to build needed to be ALL inclusive. Jews and gentiles. Sinners and saints...Salvation comes from jesus and jesus alone in Pauls eyes. Was homosexuality a sin according to paul? Yes it was. But Paul was prepared for that by giving us Galations 2:16.
Keep in mind that this isn’t the religion forum and this discussion is starting to sway off topic.
He wouldn’t have referenced it if it still wasn’t important. Yes we are justified by faith, and faith is pretty much the foundation of our relationship with Christ but the Bible also says in James 2:26
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also its not faith alone we have to do works, and as Christians our work consists of following the commandments of God. God put Jesus' teaching on a higher level than Moses' law but as long as the law doesn’t contradict what Jesus taught its not abolished.
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EvilFink wrote:
i have no problem with these obaminations getting married. i think the inability to breed is a good thing.
Gays on the most part have never had off spring. Whatever makes someone gay, has something to do with the people actually having children.
King Boo wrote:
Gay couples are fine but I do not think they should adopt. Kids raised by gays are more likely to experiment.
Idiot. I rather be with a loving gay couple then stuck in a orphanage, or moved from one foster parents to another as so many kids are. This fact surpasses any make believe scenarios you come up with.
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Cid wrote:
You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews
OmegaYiXingshenglong wrote:
marriage one man one women
Idiot.
Historically...most of the time (even cultures that allows same sex relationships) marriage involved a male party and a female party. (I say party because sometimes more than one female was involved.)
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Sound DBZ logic cannot be destroyed; the efforts of the so-called super elite will always be in vain. Have at thee Krom!
OmegaYiXingshenglong wrote:
marriage one man one women
Idiot.
Historically...most of the time (even cultures that allows same sex relationships) marriage involved a male party and a female party. (I say party because sometimes more than one female was involved.)
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Nobody is against straight marriages here, but the fact that heterosexual relationships have dominated history doesn’t mean every other harmless, consensual alternative should be disregarded. Historically most cultures owned slaves, but that doesn’t mean it’s OK to own slaves. Historically most cultures were not a democracy, but that doesn’t mean democracy is a bad thing. Gay couples aren’t hurting anybody. They even help society by preventing it from being overpopulated in a non-violent way. Just like heterosexuals prevent it from being underpopulated.
OmegaYiXingshenglong wrote:
marriage one man one women
Idiot.
Historically...most of the time (even cultures that allows same sex relationships) marriage involved a male party and a female party. (I say party because sometimes more than one female was involved.)
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Nobody is against straight marriages here, but the fact that heterosexual relationships have dominated history doesn’t mean every other harmless, consensual alternative should be disregarded. Historically most cultures owned slaves, but that doesn’t mean it’s OK to own slaves. Historically most cultures were not a democracy, but that doesn’t mean democracy is a bad thing. Gay couples aren’t hurting anybody. They even help society by preventing it from being overpopulated in a non-violent way. Just like heterosexuals prevent it from being underpopulated.
Because they said marriage so I brought it up, you’re bringing up unrelated old ideas and equating that to the traditional stance on Marriage. And its true, many cultures that even allowed same sex unions treated them different from marriage (not less than one, like people believe civil unions are, just something seperate.)
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Sound DBZ logic cannot be destroyed; the efforts of the so-called super elite will always be in vain. Have at thee Krom!
I don’t know how long it will take, but eventually churches that oppose gay rights will be the minority. If some churches can adapt their preachings to fit with the times, then more can. And the times, they are a changin'.
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daledude wrote:
I don’t know how long it will take, but eventually churches that oppose gay rights will be the minority. If some churches can adapt their preachings to fit with the times, then more can. And the times, they are a changin'.
I think it will be a bit different, I think people who call themselves Christians will become the minority. Why go half way? People are more likely to leave the church than change it.
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Sound DBZ logic cannot be destroyed; the efforts of the so-called super elite will always be in vain. Have at thee Krom!
daledude wrote:
I don’t know how long it will take, but eventually churches that oppose gay rights will be the minority. If some churches can adapt their preachings to fit with the times, then more can. And the times, they are a changin'.
I think it will be a bit different, I think people who call themselves Christians will become the minority. Why go half way? People are more likely to leave the church than change it.
I half way agree, but I don’t think people who call them selves christians will be the minority, people who do and go to church might, there are lots of Christians who do not attend church.
daledude wrote:
I don’t know how long it will take, but eventually churches that oppose gay rights will be the minority. If some churches can adapt their preachings to fit with the times, then more can. And the times, they are a changin'.
I think it will be a bit different, I think people who call themselves Christians will become the minority. Why go half way? People are more likely to leave the church than change it.
I half way agree, but I don’t think people who call them selves christians will be the minority, people who do and go to church might, there are lots of Christians who do not attend church.
Statistically less people are calling themselves Christians.
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Sound DBZ logic cannot be destroyed; the efforts of the so-called super elite will always be in vain. Have at thee Krom!
daledude wrote:
I don’t know how long it will take, but eventually churches that oppose gay rights will be the minority. If some churches can adapt their preachings to fit with the times, then more can. And the times, they are a changin'.
I think it will be a bit different, I think people who call themselves Christians will become the minority. Why go half way? People are more likely to leave the church than change it.
I half way agree, but I don’t think people who call them selves christians will be the minority, people who do and go to church might, there are lots of Christians who do not attend church.
Statistically less people are calling themselves Christians.
Yeah but I doubt they will be the minority any time soon. Which I am thinking in my lifetime. Not the next generation per say. I am also looking at it with the Bible belt as a reference.
daledude wrote:
I don’t know how long it will take, but eventually churches that oppose gay rights will be the minority. If some churches can adapt their preachings to fit with the times, then more can. And the times, they are a changin'.
I think it will be a bit different, I think people who call themselves Christians will become the minority. Why go half way? People are more likely to leave the church than change it.
I half way agree, but I don’t think people who call them selves christians will be the minority, people who do and go to church might, there are lots of Christians who do not attend church.
Statistically less people are calling themselves Christians.
Yeah but I doubt they will be the minority any time soon. Which I am thinking in my lifetime. Not the next generation per say. I am also looking at it with the Bible belt as a reference.
Me too, the younger generation is a big indicator of it coming sooner than you think.
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Sound DBZ logic cannot be destroyed; the efforts of the so-called super elite will always be in vain. Have at thee Krom!
some one new wrote:
Westboro Baptist Church in response to a question about whether or not they are involved with the KKK or neo-nazi group.
No. We don’t believe in physical violence of any kind, and the Scripture doesn’t support racism. God never says “thou shalt not be black." However, He does say, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (Leviticus 18:22).
leviticus also tells us to stone to death disobedient children, not eat shellfish and 611 other laws...100 of those had to do with animal sacrifice, slavery was supported in the whole bible as well as supressing women...Slavery and opression sound like the works of an all powerful loving god...
--- "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts
Last edited 23 Jul 2009 09:21 am by Sleazy P. Martini
some one new wrote:
Westboro Baptist Church in response to a question about whether or not they are involved with the KKK or neo-nazi group.
No. We don’t believe in physical violence of any kind, and the Scripture doesn’t support racism. God never says “thou shalt not be black." However, He does say, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (Leviticus 18:22).
leviticus also tells us to stone to death disobedient children, not eat shellfish and 611 other laws...100 of those had to do with animal sacrifice, slavery was supported in the whole bible as well as supressing women...Slavery and opression sound like the works of an all powerful loving god...
We’ve had this discussion already. Leviticus is not the only book that condemns it blah, blah stay on topic please.
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