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what is you idea?
do you think every governments from earth should control this?


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The federal Government needs to crack down and stop all the price gauging and lies. Gas should be 1.5 dollars a gallon at the most right now. It’s all our stupid president’s fault for not doing something or even trying to and just feeding us a bunch of BS when it started. He’s an idiot and has no idea what it takes to properly run an economy. The money they’re essentially stealing has to come from somewhere, and it’s damaging the entire economy, everything has to be balanced, you can’t have one necessity at an incredibly high price, the economy doesn’t work that way because the amount of money in the US and the average amount the citizens are making isn’t gonna change, at least not in any significant amount in a 4 year period. The only thing this will cause in the future if the price doesn’t go down is an increase in the crime rate and a decrease in the purchase of gas powered vehicles, cuz people aren’t going to lay down and die because they can no longer afford the cost of living, they’re gonna survive by any means necessary. And for some this means turning to crime.


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kill the people at the gas stations and fill er up fer free? lol


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shoot all the owners in the head and take control and raise the prices to 10.00 a galleon so you make BILLIONS


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Attention everyone in this thread: You’re all fucking stupid.

There is no price fixing, no global oil conspiracy, no greedy oil barons. Oil is sold on a global market, and as such, it’s price is dictated by what the market will pay for it - the same as any commodity ever.

When prices increase, yes oil companies make billions. Good for them. However, the price increases have nothing whatsoever to do with the companies themselves.

inb4 arguements to the contrary - if you bother to argue against, you plainly don’t understand global economics and are butthurt.


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jomas and i are in this topic sad we love killing people to make money!!! that mean we fucking stupid too???


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Evidently.


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There’s nothing you can do and oil prices aren’t the only thing increasing. The price of food, everything is increasing.


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hmmm... then i shall rais an army of stupid fuckers and fucking stupid people and take you, and the oil companies down!!!!


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DrumIntoTheNight wrote: Attention everyone in this thread: You’re all fucking stupid.

There is no price fixing, no global oil conspiracy, no greedy oil barons. Oil is sold on a global market, and as such, it’s price is dictated by what the market will pay for it - the same as any commodity ever.

When prices increase, yes oil companies make billions. Good for them. However, the price increases have nothing whatsoever to do with the companies themselves.

inb4 arguements to the contrary - if you bother to argue against, you plainly don’t understand global economics and are butthurt.



It has everything to do with oil companies. I don’t have my chart with me but htey only import 10% of the total oil they sell from the middle east, where they keep using the scapegoat that the prices over there are going up so they gotta screw us over. The rest of the oil comes from other places. Should the prices be higher than they were 4 years ago? Yes I agree they shoiuld be but 4.00 as the nation average? Thats a 300% increase in the price in 4 years. The price didn’t even go up that much in the 70’s when it was out of control the first time before Reagan fixed everything in the 80’s. The oil companies are purposefully decieving all of us just to make a few extra bucks. I look at it as very much price gauging and I think once the presidents change if we get Obama we’ll see it go back down to around 2 dollars.


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Obama won’t be able to do shit. Oil is running low and we need an alternate fuel a few decades from now. of course the price will go up.


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No, you’re just an idiot.

Global oil production has hovered around 80 million barrels a day for the last 5 years, whilst consumption has increased dramatically. Obvious reason for price rise? I think so.

Fact of the matter is - oil is running out, and the markets are willing to pay more for it. Oil, in the long run, will never decrease in price. That, and the remaining oil reserves are in politically unstable arenas, which is a cause of great concern for the stock market - meaning even higher prices.

No profiteering, no conspiracy. Just economics.

Edit: Directed at Son Gohan The True SSJ2. the21gamer has the right idea.


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the21gamer wrote: There’s nothing you can do and oil prices aren’t the only thing increasing. The price of food, everything is increasing.



Yes but nowhere near the rate at which gas is going up and part of the reason the prices are going up in other areas is because people are having to cut back due to gas and not spending as much and buying the cheap stuff and the Grocery Stores, etc. are still trying to make the same amount of profit or more. Same goes for sit down restaurant prices going up. If you look at the type of vehicles the majority of amercians were purchasing before bushes second term when he screwed us a good percentage probably over half were big trucks and minivans. That’s not to mention the giant full size cars like Lexus’s that get horrible gas mileage too. Now that lots of people are stuck with these big gas guzzling cars and the maintenance cost as well as having to spend 400 dollars a paycheck just to fill them up they have to start spending less on other things resulting in a bump in the price of other commoditties to try to make some of the losses back. If the gas prices go back down and people start having more disposable income again, then the prices for everything else should go back down as well now that other industries are making money. economics is a complicated pull and push game that has to be handled with care, brains and delicacy of which Bush has none.

the21gamer wrote: Obama won’t be able to do shit. Oil is running low and we need an alternate fuel a few decades from now. of course the price will go up.



See this is another white lie the government is trying to feed us. The overall amount of oil is fine we still have reserves in north america to fall back on which will last a while when we use up all the oil we’re importing. The government wants us to think wer’e running low but if that were the case wouldn’t the government be panicking and trying to figure out a way of transition for the oil companies to a new fuel? because once we use up all the oil they’re pretty much screwed if they don’t come up with something else to sell.


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Son Gohan The True SSJ2 wrote:

the21gamer wrote: There’s nothing you can do and oil prices aren’t the only thing increasing. The price of food, everything is increasing.



Yes but nowhere near the rate at which gas is going up and part of the reason the prices are going up in other areas is because people are having to cut back due to gas and not spending as much and buying the cheap stuff and the Grocery Stores, etc. are still trying to make the same amount of profit or more. Same goes for sit down restaurant prices going up. If you look at the type of vehicles the majority of amercians were purchasing before bushes second term when he screwed us a good percentage probably over half were big trucks and minivans. That’s not to mention the giant full size cars like Lexus’s that get horrible gas mileage too. Now that lots of people are stuck with these big gas guzzling cars and the maintenance cost as well as having to spend 400 dollars a paycheck just to fill them up they have to start spending less on other things resulting in a bump in the price of other commoditties to try to make some of the losses back. If the gas prices go back down and people start having more disposable income again, then the prices for everything else should go back down as well now that other industries are making money. economics is a complicated pull and push game that has to be handled with care, brains and delicacy of which Bush has none.



You are such an idiot, I swear to God.

The reason all other prices are increasing - namely food - is exactly because base commodities are increasing in price. Ever think how much oil it takes to get food to your plate?

If people stopped spending money on food, the price would go down. Simple as. Your theory is backwards at best, and displays a complete lack of knowledge in basic economics.


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Son Gohan The True SSJ2 wrote:

the21gamer wrote: There’s nothing you can do and oil prices aren’t the only thing increasing. The price of food, everything is increasing.



Yes but nowhere near the rate at which gas is going up and part of the reason the prices are going up in other areas is because people are having to cut back due to gas and not spending as much and buying the cheap stuff and the Grocery Stores, etc. are still trying to make the same amount of profit or more. Same goes for sit down restaurant prices going up. If you look at the type of vehicles the majority of amercians were purchasing before bushes second term when he screwed us a good percentage probably over half were big trucks and minivans. That’s not to mention the giant full size cars like Lexus’s that get horrible gas mileage too. Now that lots of people are stuck with these big gas guzzling cars and the maintenance cost as well as having to spend 400 dollars a paycheck just to fill them up they have to start spending less on other things resulting in a bump in the price of other commoditties to try to make some of the losses back. If the gas prices go back down and people start having more disposable income again, then the prices for everything else should go back down as well now that other industries are making money. economics is a complicated pull and push game that has to be handled with care, brains and delicacy of which Bush has none.



I’m going to tell you the truth.

It’s not Bushes fault if you bought an effing god-sized hummer. That’s your fault.
Don’t take it out on other people when it’s your mistake.
Deal with the consequences.


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DrumIntoTheNight wrote: No, you’re just an idiot.



Don’t call me an idiot for having an opinion ass. You want yes men who nod and agree with your almighty word you ain’t gonna find that in me.




Global oil production has hovered around 80 million barrels a day for the last 5 years, whilst consumption has increased dramatically. Obvious reason for price rise? I think so.



Are you reading all this from government sponsored sites/sources? For one production of anything fluctuates and that’s only looking at 5 years, what was it before that 150 million barrels a day? Are the oil companies intentionally producing less to just make more cash and make their current middle east oil supply last longer? Makes sense to me and is the conclusion I’ve come up with. And I have non government funded proof to back up my claims. Once we get a democrat in office you’ll see the prices will go down. Obama wants to look good and secure two terms for one wouldn’t this be the best way to do it?

Fact of the matter is - oil is running out, and the markets are willing to pay more for it. Oil, in the long run, will never decrease in price.



I woulnd’t deal in absolutes with something like this man that can be dangerous and come back to demean your character later.



It’s not Bushes fault if you bought an effing god-sized hummer. That’s your fault.
Don’t take it out on other people when it’s your mistake.
Deal with the consequences.



I agree never said it wasn’t your fault for blowing money on a giant gas guzzling car.


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Son Gohan The True SSJ2 wrote:



It’s not Bushes fault if you bought an effing god-sized hummer. That’s your fault.
Don’t take it out on other people when it’s your mistake.
Deal with the consequences.



I agree never said it wasn’t my fault for blowing money on a giant gas guzzling car.



Exactly. So don’t complain and put the blame on someone else. You can shut up and leave this topic now.


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You are such an idiot, I swear to God.



no and stop being an asshole and let people have their own opinions. read a little John Stossel or Adam Smith. Your ignorance on the subject and thinking your opinion on the subject is almighty absolute and has to be right is hilarious. You post indisputable proof and I’ll change my opinion.



see now this has nothing to do with what I was talking about.
If people stopped spending money on food, the price would go down. Simple as.



wow that has to be teh most ignorant statement I’ve ever heard. Why would big corporations Lower the price when the consumer base diminishes a little? That would mean that people with more money are coming into the store because they make enough to get there and afford the food. In order to fix the decrease in amount of bulk business and still make a profit the price would have to go up. Have you even looked at how a business runs before? I manage and store and know intimately about what raising and lowering a price entales and it’s always done in teh best interetst of the store not based on straight business. Read some John Stossell I swear, there’s a guy who knows what he’s talking about. The store has ato survive you think say a tom thumb could make it if they cut down all their prices just because their customer base decreased? no they’d be out of business in a week.


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A store consumes a shit load of gas just to get the food in the store.


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