If Iran Were To Get Nukes, What Should America/or UN Do?

Another hot topic out there. Iran is looking to purchase nukes from such countries as Russia that are looking to get rid of a few them as they cost so damn much to contain.

Now I don’t know but if ya think about it this is a serious problem. If Iran were to get nukes they would most surely use it. Who would they use it on. Isreal and they would eradicate them off the face of this earth.

So what should America or the UN do. Should we prevent this from happening now or wait for something to take place. Note if we try to prevent it then we could start a 3rd world war. But if we don’t do anything and wait til the war to start, Isreal will be eradicated off the earth and there is as possibility that MAD will occur, mutually assured destruction.

Or is military force the answer. Do you think peace talking or compromise is the way to go.

People aren’t getting to hot on it but really what happens here could decide the fate of the next 20 years. So I’ll include a poll but this is quite a discussion. I’m just presenting all sides right now.

how do u know they would surely use it?

I don’t trust any Middle-Eastern countries in terms of weapons of mass destruction. They’re like the asshole of the world.

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I’d keep a really fucking close eye on them as well as have NORAD on alert, alert Israelis, and be ready to mount an attack if necessary.

Well here’s the thing. If we only keep a close eye on them what do we do if they get them. Use military force? Have Israel take care of it.

The only problem with waiting is the 2 countries that would try to do somehting, US and Israel, both have nuclear weapons themselves. Meaning we are pushing on desperate lines here. Iran would threaten to use them and hell Israel just might blast them into nothing. Millions of innocents die. Not only that one nuke goes off many more will go off. Pakistan would most likely fire back at Israel.

Adn now all of a sudden we have mutually assured destruction.

The thing is about keeping nukes out of the hands of countries that are most likely to use it. And I think if we know that they are looking to get it then man we need to do something earlier than expected. Of course doing that could tick off the countries that are selling these thigns such as Russia. And turst me gentlement we really don’t need to piss off Russia.

This is why I picked there really is no good way to do this but in the end we still have to do something.

The Russians aren’t stupid/desperate enough to sell nuclear weapons to the Middle East. However, they are careless enough to potentially “lose” their stockpiles. Most are poorly guarded, if at all. It’s far more likely that terrorists will steal some of Russia’s stockpile.

Even if Iran did obtain a nuclear weapon, through any means, I don’t belive they’re stupid enough to use them. Ahmadinejad likes posing, and that’s all I think he’d do. He’s certainly an intelligent man, and he knows all too well that using a nuclear weapon would result in his country being eradicated.

What would be the point in using a single weapon to, say, take out a few million people in Israel, when it would inevitably trigger the complete destruction of your own country?

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DrumIntoTheNight wrote: The Russians aren’t stupid/desperate enough to sell nuclear weapons to the Middle East. However, they are careless enough to potentially “lose” their stockpiles. Most are poorly guarded, if at all. It’s far more likely that terrorists will steal some of Russia’s stockpile.

Even if Iran did obtain a nuclear weapon, through any means, I don’t belive they’re stupid enough to use them. Ahmadinejad likes posing, and that’s all I think he’d do. He’s certainly an intelligent man, and he knows all too well that using a nuclear weapon would result in his country being eradicated.

What would be the point in using a single weapon to, say, take out a few million people in Israel, when it would inevitably trigger the complete destruction of your own country?

Because radical Fundamentalist Mustlims think that the more people you kill that are non believers or enemies, the more virgins you get in heaven. That is what they believe. So if he is the guy that orders the nuke to be dropped on Isreal and kill 2-3 million people then he believes he’s going to be the luckiest man in heaven now doesn’t he. So yes he is insane enough to do this. Not to mention he’s stated his want to eradicate Israel.

And yes Russia would sell nukes. As I stated they are very expensive to contain and care for and Russia is having problems containing all of them. Too expensive. Trust me the situation I put up there is a very likely situation.

If they wipe Israel off the face of the planet, I won’t really care. Religious wars are so rediculous that I don’t care what the bastards do to eachother. Anyone that bickers and fights over somthing that happened thousands of years ago needs a slug through their head. Jew, or Muslim.

The way I see it, humans are humans. A religious belief doesn’t make you any more superior than the other.

So, why start a World War over somthing that isn’t even any of your business?

Zucas wrote:

DrumIntoTheNight wrote: The Russians aren’t stupid/desperate enough to sell nuclear weapons to the Middle East. However, they are careless enough to potentially “lose” their stockpiles. Most are poorly guarded, if at all. It’s far more likely that terrorists will steal some of Russia’s stockpile.

Even if Iran did obtain a nuclear weapon, through any means, I don’t belive they’re stupid enough to use them. Ahmadinejad likes posing, and that’s all I think he’d do. He’s certainly an intelligent man, and he knows all too well that using a nuclear weapon would result in his country being eradicated.

What would be the point in using a single weapon to, say, take out a few million people in Israel, when it would inevitably trigger the complete destruction of your own country?

Because radical Fundamentalist Mustlims think that the more people you kill that are non believers or enemies, the more virgins you get in heaven. That is what they believe. So if he is the guy that orders the nuke to be dropped on Isreal and kill 2-3 million people then he believes he’s going to be the luckiest man in heaven now doesn’t he. So yes he is insane enough to do this. Not to mention he’s stated his want to eradicate Israel.

And yes Russia would sell nukes. As I stated they are very expensive to contain and care for and Russia is having problems containing all of them. Too expensive. Trust me the situation I put up there is a very likely situation.

Countries don’t sell nuclear weapons. End of.

Nobody, not even Russia, is desperate enough for money to sell their weapons. They might sell their scientist’s knowledge and the technology, but actually selling the complete weapons is something else entirely.

Infact, Russia is dismantling it’s nuclear weapons and selling the Plutonium (about 50-100 tonnes of the stuff is becoming available from them) to countries that are already nuclear powers. This is mostly going to be used for a new generation of reactor ('Breeder' Reactors).

As for Ahmadinejad, you’re reading him wrong. He comes across (or mostly, is portrayed in the Western media) as a religious nutter, but he is infact a very intelligent man who knows how to utilise the media to his advantage. He wants the West to believe he’s unpredictable; it gives him an advantage that he can exploit. The main flaw in your logic is that Ahmadinejad is not a fundamentalist Muslim. Strong Muslim beliefs for sure, but he’s no Taliban. In fact, women in his country don’t have to wear veils. He’s what you might call a “liberal”.

He’s not stupid enough to sign the death warrant of his entire country.

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We should just wait to see if they use them.

Ram, saying they’re like the assholes of the world is a stereotype that needs to go. Just because Muslims bombed us doesn’t mean they all hate us. And I’m pretty sure you’ve heard this before, but yeah.

Attacking them is not the thing, because they aren’t invading our country so we get rid of ours. I mean, we can destroy the world around 200 times with our arsenal, so I’d say we’re more of a danger than them.

I say, shoot now ask questions later. Get them when they are off-guard and kick the shit out of that country. I’m sick and tired of crap coming out of Iran, Iraq, etc. If I were president those countries would be issues a warning saying “You have 2 years to clean up your shit. If I see any dumb ass moves by your people after that point, I’ll send you back to the stone age."

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HALOOOOOOOO wrote: We should just wait to see if they use them.

Ram, saying they’re like the assholes of the world is a stereotype that needs to go. Just because Muslims bombed us doesn’t mean they all hate us. And I’m pretty sure you’ve heard this before, but yeah.

Attacking them is not the thing, because they aren’t invading our country so we get rid of ours. I mean, we can destroy the world around 200 times with our arsenal, so I’d say we’re more of a danger than them.

Alright one muslims didn’t bomb. Fundamental radical islamics. The equivalent of all those crazy fundamentalist christians. But that’s the stereotype. Like most othere things 9/11 was most likely an inside job.

Thirdly if we wait to see if they use them then Israel is gone. Are you telling me you are willing to see millions of people die simply because we wanteed to take a wait and see policy.

But against my arguement why should we care what happens to them. I’d probably think the same thing. As Israel aint our problem. ONly problem I do have is if one nuke goes off they all they go off.

Islamic radicals ARE Muslims.

Just saying >>

Maggot Face wrote: Islamic radicals ARE Muslims.

Just saying >>

What they are saying is that the equation doesn’t go both ways.

Islamic Radicals are Muslims, but not all Muslims are Islamic Radicals.

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derdev789 wrote:

Maggot Face wrote: Islamic radicals ARE Muslims.

Just saying >>

What they are saying is that the equation doesn’t go both ways.

Islamic Radicals are Muslims, but not all Muslims are Islamic Radicals.

I know. It was just the way he phrased it, I wasn’t sure if he was aware or not.

derdev789 wrote: I say, shoot now ask questions later. Get them when they are off-guard and kick the shit out of that country. I’m sick and tired of crap coming out of Iran, Iraq, etc. If I were president those countries would be issues a warning saying “You have 2 years to clean up your shit. If I see any dumb ass moves by your people after that point, I’ll send you back to the stone age.“

You and your fucking idiotic country do not have the right to bomb, invade and kill the occupants of another country, based on being tired of their rhetoric.

What you’re describing is in fact a war crime.

Grow up.

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Block off all Political and Economic relations until they stand down.

Blockade them.

Set up anti missile installations outside every major UN city.

All UN nukes trained on Iran.

Provoke a political uprising in the country.

DrumIntoTheNight wrote:

derdev789 wrote: I say, shoot now ask questions later. Get them when they are off-guard and kick the shit out of that country. I’m sick and tired of crap coming out of Iran, Iraq, etc. If I were president those countries would be issues a warning saying “You have 2 years to clean up your shit. If I see any dumb ass moves by your people after that point, I’ll send you back to the stone age.“

You and your fucking idiotic country do not have the right to bomb, invade and kill the occupants of another country, based on being tired of their rhetoric.

What you’re describing is in fact a war crime.

Grow up.

Yeah it’s a war crime, whoopdy fucking doo. What the hell is the UN going to do? The US is the strong arm of the UN, with most of the weapons, armed forced, training and equiptment being sent in from America durring every international crisis. You obviously don’t understand my philosophy. If I was president I would do my damnedest to start WWIII, with the US as the superpower attempting global domination.

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I understand that.

That’s why I told you to grow up.

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How come it’s ok that *some* countries have nukes and that *some* countries have biological weapons programs, while other countries cannot have nukes nor biological weapons programs? I think NO countries should have any of these weapons, but ie. the US is NOT setting a good example.

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