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I’m not worried. Whatever happens nobody will be using nukes because nobody wants their country flattened.


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Shaun of the Living wrote: I’m not worried. Whatever happens nobody will be using nukes because nobody wants their country flattened.


You underestimate the insanity of a lot of people in general. Though North Korea isn’t run by religious extremist which is good. However they have detonated a nuke, they do hate us, and have threatened us so I wouldn’t exactly put a nuclear strike past North Korea just yet. They’ll probably bide their time before they do anything. Question is how long will the US and the rest of the world let them. I fear with Obama it may be too long.

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EB V3 wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote: I’m not worried. Whatever happens nobody will be using nukes because nobody wants their country flattened.


You underestimate the insanity of a lot of people in general. Though North Korea isn’t run by religious extremist which is good. However they have detonated a nuke, they do hate us, and have threatened us so I wouldn’t exactly put a nuclear strike past North Korea just yet. They’ll probably bide their time before they do anything. Question is how long will the US and the rest of the world let them. I fear with Obama it may be too long.


They said the same thing about Russia, which was much more dangerous at the time than North Korea is now. Nothing is going to happen, we have bigger dangers like climate change to worry about.

What are you talking about Obama waiting “Too long” before he does something with North Korea? The best option with the possibility of a nuclear war is to watch out for threats and keep your defences a step ahead of theirs. To rush in an offense to what is an unlikely danger would cause retaliation and probably kill more people than it saves.


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Shaun of the Living wrote:

EB V3 wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote: I’m not worried. Whatever happens nobody will be using nukes because nobody wants their country flattened.


You underestimate the insanity of a lot of people in general. Though North Korea isn’t run by religious extremist which is good. However they have detonated a nuke, they do hate us, and have threatened us so I wouldn’t exactly put a nuclear strike past North Korea just yet. They’ll probably bide their time before they do anything. Question is how long will the US and the rest of the world let them. I fear with Obama it may be too long.


They said the same thing about Russia, which was much more dangerous at the time than North Korea is now. Nothing is going to happen, we have bigger dangers like climate change to worry about.

What are you talking about Obama waiting “Too long” before he does something with North Korea? The best option with the possibility of a nuclear war is to watch out for threats and keep your defences a step ahead of theirs. To rush in an offense to what is an unlikely danger would cause retaliation and probably kill more people than it saves.



Ummm yeah global warming mostly bull the Earth is constantly changing most of it has little or nothing to do with humans. We might make a fraction of a degree difference which really doesn’t matter. It’s a George Carlin says the Earth goes through constant cycles and natural disasters. Volcano eruptions are much more likely to cause Global Warming than humans. Nuclear War is scary though. Obama hasn’t even addressed Korea as far as I know. It looks like their doing what Hitler did right before WW2, testing their boundaries to see how far they can yet at the same time not do too much so they can buy time. This might not be the case but I think North Korea is much more likely to start war with us than Russia. If were gonna fight them I’d prefer we do it before they have a missile system with Nukes that can reach us. Nukes are scary, even the weakest nukes ever detonated caused mass destruction to a city that still has radiation problems to this day. And the atomic bomb is like a paper cut compared to what other nukes can do.



Does anyone here honestly want to risk this? Fat Man is like an ant compared to the nukes of today. And even if Korea doesn’t directly attack us what if they hand over Nukes to the religious nut-jobs? Now I’m not anti-religious at all but the Muslim Extremist are insane and would use the nukes without a second thought.

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Let me put it this way too, if enough nukes went off we’d have a better chance of surviving in the center of the sun than on Earth.

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EB V3 wrote: Ummm yeah global warming mostly bull the Earth is constantly changing most of it has little or nothing to do with humans. We might make a fraction of a degree difference which really doesn’t matter. It’s a George Carlin says the Earth goes through constant cycles and natural disasters. Volcano eruptions are much more likely to cause Global Warming than humans. Nuclear War is scary though.


There is plenty of evidence for global warming; rising temperatures, melting ice caps, increased levels of CO2 in the atmosphere, certain plants growing in places where they’ve never done before due to the climate not being cold enough. Man Made CO2 emissions release more than 150 times the amount released by volcanoes each year. I can’t believe people are buying into the bullshit put out by free marketers and petrol companies.

EB V3 wrote: Obama hasn’t even addressed Korea as far as I know. It looks like their doing what Hitler did right before WW2, testing their boundaries to see how far they can yet at the same time not do too much so they can buy time. This might not be the case but I think North Korea is much more likely to start war with us than Russia.


North Korea isn’t even at a Cold War or arms race with America at this point in time. The world has gotten so much more paranoid in the 21st century. Sure, North Korea has a very small amount of nukes at this point in time, but with so many countries pointing their missiles at them and telling them to calm down or watch out (even CHINA has warned them) they won’t be doing anything, and if they do, it will be minimal and it will result in their complete annihilation.

EB V3 wrote: If were gonna fight them I’d prefer we do it before they have a missile system with Nukes that can reach us. Nukes are scary, even the weakest nukes ever detonated caused mass destruction to a city that still has radiation problems to this day. And the atomic bomb is like a paper cut compared to what other nukes can do.


You would kill 20 million people in North Korea and risk the lives of many others in other countries just because of an unsupported hunch you have that North Korea might nuke another country? I hope you never get into politics.

EB V3 wrote: Does anyone here honestly want to risk this? Fat Man is like an ant compared to the nukes of today.


It’s not much of a risk, really. They don’t have much, it’s unlikely they’ll do anything and everyone else would destroy them.

EB V3 wrote: And even if Korea doesn’t directly attack us what if they hand over Nukes to the religious nut-jobs? Now I’m not anti-religious at all but the Muslim Extremist are insane and would use the nukes without a second thought.


You know what else can be just as dangerous as political and religious dogma? Paranoia.


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Nuke um befor they nuke us..

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-King- wrote: Nuke um befor they nuke us..

lol



New technology can detect nuclear strikes before they detonate meaning no matter who fires first both countries will end up being destroyed. That’s why there haven’t been any countries getting nuked since Hiroshima and Nagasaki (which I admit was something that had to be done at the time).


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there too puusy to press that launch button.


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Counter Clock Wise wrote: there too puusy to press that launch button.



Crazy nips.


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-King- wrote:

Counter Clock Wise wrote: there too puusy to press that launch button.



Crazy nips.


loss there noodles.


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ramunematt wrote: A true theocracy


yep.


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Shaun of the Living wrote:

-King- wrote: Nuke um befor they nuke us..

lol



New technology can detect nuclear strikes before they detonate meaning no matter who fires first both countries will end up being destroyed. That’s why there haven’t been any countries getting nuked since Hiroshima and Nagasaki (which I admit was something that had to be done at the time).


They did not have to drop those bombs. America had level everything, but those 2 cities. They purposely saved those city for a live test.


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Gplex wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

-King- wrote: Nuke um befor they nuke us..

lol



New technology can detect nuclear strikes before they detonate meaning no matter who fires first both countries will end up being destroyed. That’s why there haven’t been any countries getting nuked since Hiroshima and Nagasaki (which I admit was something that had to be done at the time).


They did not have to drop those bombs. America had level everything, but those 2 cities. They purposely saved those city for a live test.


They made Japan surrender within a month, a nation that previously had an insanely strong determination to conquer the pacific. To take the war on Japanese soil by conventional warfare would have dragged out the conflict for much, much longer, resulting in even more Allied and Japanese people being killed.


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Japan is kinda small also.
It be like bombing Cali,lol


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Shaun of the Living wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

-King- wrote: Nuke um befor they nuke us..

lol



New technology can detect nuclear strikes before they detonate meaning no matter who fires first both countries will end up being destroyed. That’s why there haven’t been any countries getting nuked since Hiroshima and Nagasaki (which I admit was something that had to be done at the time).


They did not have to drop those bombs. America had level everything, but those 2 cities. They purposely saved those city for a live test.


They made Japan surrender within a month, a nation that previously had an insanely strong determination to conquer the pacific. To take the war on Japanese soil by conventional warfare would have dragged out the conflict for much, much longer, resulting in even more Allied and Japanese people being killed.


They could have easily just bomb the crap out of those 2 cities just as they had done to all the others, but instead they wanted to test out bombs that would leave large parts of the city radioactive.


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Gplex wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

-King- wrote: Nuke um befor they nuke us..

lol



New technology can detect nuclear strikes before they detonate meaning no matter who fires first both countries will end up being destroyed. That’s why there haven’t been any countries getting nuked since Hiroshima and Nagasaki (which I admit was something that had to be done at the time).


They did not have to drop those bombs. America had level everything, but those 2 cities. They purposely saved those city for a live test.


They made Japan surrender within a month, a nation that previously had an insanely strong determination to conquer the pacific. To take the war on Japanese soil by conventional warfare would have dragged out the conflict for much, much longer, resulting in even more Allied and Japanese people being killed.


They could have easily just bomb the crap out of those 2 cities just as they had done to all the others, but instead they wanted to test out bombs that would leave large parts of the city radioactive.


Oh, I thought you were opposing America doing any kind of offensive on Japan.
Still, would a bombing by conventional means have intimidated them psychologically as much as nuclear weapons? Even after the first nuke Japan didn’t surrender because they thought America only had one, it took two nuclear bombings and the threat of a third strike to make them surrender. If one superweapon wasn’t enough for them to give up I don’t know if two conventional offensives would have convinced them to surrender as quickly. Besides, there still would have been more resistance which would have resulted in more allied soldiers being killed, and while I realise Japanese civillians being killed and their territory being contaminated is also bad, you couldn’t stop the USA from being more concerned about their own country than an invading one.


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The U.N. has made North Korea back down easily so many times.


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Shaun of the Living wrote:

EB V3 wrote: Ummm yeah global warming mostly bull the Earth is constantly changing most of it has little or nothing to do with humans. We might make a fraction of a degree difference which really doesn’t matter. It’s a George Carlin says the Earth goes through constant cycles and natural disasters. Volcano eruptions are much more likely to cause Global Warming than humans. Nuclear War is scary though.


There is plenty of evidence for global warming; rising temperatures, melting ice caps, increased levels of CO2 in the atmosphere, certain plants growing in places where they’ve never done before due to the climate not being cold enough. Man Made CO2 emissions release more than 150 times the amount released by volcanoes each year. I can’t believe people are buying into the bullshit put out by free marketers and petrol companies.

EB V3 wrote: Obama hasn’t even addressed Korea as far as I know. It looks like their doing what Hitler did right before WW2, testing their boundaries to see how far they can yet at the same time not do too much so they can buy time. This might not be the case but I think North Korea is much more likely to start war with us than Russia.


North Korea isn’t even at a Cold War or arms race with America at this point in time. The world has gotten so much more paranoid in the 21st century. Sure, North Korea has a very small amount of nukes at this point in time, but with so many countries pointing their missiles at them and telling them to calm down or watch out (even CHINA has warned them) they won’t be doing anything, and if they do, it will be minimal and it will result in their complete annihilation.

EB V3 wrote: If were gonna fight them I’d prefer we do it before they have a missile system with Nukes that can reach us. Nukes are scary, even the weakest nukes ever detonated caused mass destruction to a city that still has radiation problems to this day. And the atomic bomb is like a paper cut compared to what other nukes can do.


You would kill 20 million people in North Korea and risk the lives of many others in other countries just because of an unsupported hunch you have that North Korea might nuke another country? I hope you never get into politics.

EB V3 wrote: Does anyone here honestly want to risk this? Fat Man is like an ant compared to the nukes of today.


It’s not much of a risk, really. They don’t have much, it’s unlikely they’ll do anything and everyone else would destroy them.

EB V3 wrote: And even if Korea doesn’t directly attack us what if they hand over Nukes to the religious nut-jobs? Now I’m not anti-religious at all but the Muslim Extremist are insane and would use the nukes without a second thought.


You know what else can be just as dangerous as political and religious dogma? Paranoia.



Please people talking about Global Warming don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. It’s all so called environmentalist with ulterior motives(coughpeoplelikeAlGorecough). Hell now there is even talk of another Ice Age. Make up your damn minds it changes like every 20 years. It’s like having a doomsday theory every six years. Global Warming is media control really. Secondly never did I say we should Nuke Korea, I said we should stop them and not just slap them on the wrist like every did with Hitler before oh I don’t know he started WWII. And yeah when North Korea has directly threatened us with Nukes I see that as a reason to be paranoid. Even if we don’t have an all out Nuclear War, what happens if North Korea drops a nuke in a populated city? Or what if North Korea drops a nuke too close to one of our nukes? They have directly threatened us. North Korea is liable to test their boundaries until they get nukes and a launch system powerful enough to seriously threaten us. Hitler did the same thing with Germany basically, he built Germany’s army from next to nothing within a few years and then broke rules from the Treaty of Versailles and even invaded another country while the rest of the world basically twiddled their thumbs until he invaded Poland and France. I bet North Korea is doing a similar kind of thing.

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