kev360 wrote:
the first to loose one’s temper in a debate is often considered the looser. despite the facts they may be presenting, loosing one’s cool is a sure sign of ignorance, or a lack of supporting arguments. gotta say, speakers, you just got dominated. haha but, you have an english major, so you should know all this, correct?
sorry i dont understand bullshit. how does losing one’s temper have anything to do with the argument itself? you fail just like the republicans.
talking to you is about as rewarding as talking to a small animal. wait, no, at least with a small animal, i don’t have to cry for humanity.
whats sad is that you even talk to small animals. too bad your parents didnt get that abortion
Whats sad is that you don’t even know the unwritten rules of a debate. If you get in an argument with an authority figure and try present your case like an asshole, it won’t get you far, even if you ARE right.
who are you to judge? seriously. random ass dude who just butted into a convo.
I’m just saying, How you act in a debate can determine if you have good credibility or not.
true but right now i have no respect for republicans as you can clearly see, so whatever people say about my attitude will not prevent me from being an asshole.
You really shouldn’t be. I mean sure, Bush screwed up but it’s not like all republicans are exactly like him or something. At this point, I just want the party out of the white house until they improve upon some things.
SPEAKERZZZ wrote:
1. He’s way too old. Motherfucker will get Alzheimer’s if he wins the election.
2. If he dies, America is fucked.
3. If she’s vice president, America is fucked.
4. If we continue the war, America is fucked (look at the debt we owe China)
5. Republicans fucked us over economically. McCain will fuck us in our asses repeatedly if he wins.
6. “We are winning in Iraq. Iraq is united." Yes, that TOTALLY FUCKING MAKES SENSE because the America imposed a government in Iraq that is dominated by a group of people that was once persecuted and now discriminates the minority.
7. “The economy is doing well." McCain being a dumbass thought the economy was doing fucking well until this fucking recession came along.
8. Cut taxes and support nuclear energy? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS. NUCLEAR ENERGY COSTS A SHITLOAD OF MONEY. where in living fuck are we gonna get money if we cut taxes?
9. Palin thought the bailout helped people who were primarily concerned with the housing crisis. Palin = Mega Fail.
10. another 4 years of republicans? BOO! bill clinton’s presidency = no debt. george bush’s presidency = too much debt. mccain’s presidency = goodbye american economy. hello chinese economy.
OBAMA/BIDEN '08.
Disclaimer: If you post in this topic, you AUTOMATICALLY agree with everything I say.
1. Not a valid reason
2. Not a valid reason
3. Not a valid reason
4. We can’t even pay China so there fucked just as much as us.
5. No actualy it was the democrats who stopped regulations which led to the economic disaster
6. This is why we can’t leave they are not united and not stable so if we do leave then there will be chaos and we will look like ass holes for leaving a country to a hell that we started.
7. He didn’t mean it in that way if you weren’t an idiot and actualy paid attention to politics you can see that he ment that the economy is still exanding despite the recession.
8. Now it sounds like your turning against Obama all of a sudden
9. She is wrong about that but it helped the banks from failing which is what let us avoid a complete depression and if you didn’t like the bailout blame the democrats because it was there idea.
10. Its called learning from mistakes McCain is smart enough to know what Bush did wrong and not repeat those.
Disclaimer: If you question me your automaticly a fag
1. valid reason
2. valid reason so suck my dick
3. valid reason so lick my shaft
4. china is not seriously that fucked. chinese economy is expanding. japan is currently the largest creditor therefore japan is more fucked.
5. democrats stopped regulations? republicans are strongly against regulations so speak for yourself, you republican dipshit.
6. if we didnt go to war in the first place, we would not be owing so much money. thank you you fucking republicans.
7.economy is not expanding. wtf are you talking about. jobs are being outsourced, america currently owes large debt, recession occurring. where is america expanding? america buys more than it sells in china. check your facts.
8.mccain advocated nuclear power you dumbass. obama strongly advocates wind and solar energy..which costs much less than nuclear power plants.
9. “it helped the banks from failing." dumbass. washington mutual was recently bought...lehman brothers was bought...merrill lynch is dead and now AIG is fucked. bailout was “democrats idea." incorrect. both parties joined together to form the bailout, you stupid dipshit.
10.yes thats why mccain will still continue the war in iraq. dumbass.
disclaimer: if you argue with my points, you are officially fucking stupid.
1. you’re a dumbass
2. you’re a dumbass
3. you’re a dumbass
4. There economy is worst then ours and as we fail so do theres. Chinas just setting themselves up for a major crash.
5. Yes the Bush administration(not saying Bush is a good president) tried to regulate these companies which were the major contributers to Obamas compaign but the democrats stopped it. Don’t belive me? watch this
[youtube]v=GaABV1CWXug[/youtube]
6. Thats true but were in the war now so bitching about the past like democrates do is not going to help for the war now.
7. It is were trading more then ever NAFTA is doing great work were still the center of the world economy its just the stock market here is crashing which is whats killing the economy.
8.LOL? Nuclear power is alot more cheap then Obamas idea we don’t even know if solar energy could power entire cities like New York Nuclear energy is the best thing right now.
9. Ok I don’t know that those companies have to do with banks but a shit load of banks were failing so the bailout was put in place to fix that and democrates came up with a bailout the republicans only did it when there was no other choice.
10. Like I said getting out now is the worst idea.
disclaimer: your a ignorant little shit who can’t accept that your dead wrong
wow if you dont even know merrill lynch or lehman brothers or AIG is, why the fuck are you arguing with me? YOU CLEARLY DONT KNOW SHIT! NAFTA HAS BEEN HEAVILY CRITICIZED. dude, i am a poli sci major and english major with a minor in history. i breathe politics. you are the ignorant shit here. Nuclear power is extremely expensive you little dumbass. Take environmental science before you talk to me. A nuclear power plant costs billions while simple windmill costs a lot less. go fuck yourself you little dipshit.
Well your obviously failing hard considering your lack of knowledge in politics and personal insults. Watch the video to it will shut you up.
lack of knowledge?! you didnt even know WHAT AIG WAS. and youre gonna base your knowledge on ONE VIDEO? what a dipshit. you fail. no use talking to you.
I know what AIG is dumbass I never said I didn’t and that video supplies evidence and articles unlike you. Now please you lost horribly so request that this thread be locked and avoid further embarrasment.
talkin to you is like talking to a geico caveman. too bad your parents didnt get that abortion either.
to bad the abortion your parents tried to have on you didn’t work
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kev360 wrote:
the first to loose one’s temper in a debate is often considered the looser. despite the facts they may be presenting, loosing one’s cool is a sure sign of ignorance, or a lack of supporting arguments. gotta say, speakers, you just got dominated. haha but, you have an english major, so you should know all this, correct?
sorry i dont understand bullshit. how does losing one’s temper have anything to do with the argument itself? you fail just like the republicans.
talking to you is about as rewarding as talking to a small animal. wait, no, at least with a small animal, i don’t have to cry for humanity.
whats sad is that you even talk to small animals. too bad your parents didnt get that abortion
Whats sad is that you don’t even know the unwritten rules of a debate. If you get in an argument with an authority figure and try present your case like an asshole, it won’t get you far, even if you ARE right.
who are you to judge? seriously. random ass dude who just butted into a convo.
As you can see nobody likes you and says you suck at debating so just quit
SPEAKERZZZ wrote:
did i just hear something? sounds like bullshit again. oh well..
Wow great debater. Don’t even try politics if you can’t debate it.So just go back to doing whatever and let the smart people deal with the things you don’t understand
SPEAKERZZZ wrote:
did i just hear something? sounds like bullshit again. oh well..
Wow great debater. Don’t even try politics if you can’t debate it.So just go back to doing whatever and let the smart people deal with the things you don’t understand
yes this is coming from a kid who thinks he’s smart and yet his name is read this if your mom sucked my dick.
Where have people got the idea that Renewables are cheaper than Nuclear?
The reason Renewables are not used is because there so goddam inneficient. Wind turbines can take centuries to pay back their own cost, and solar power plants are little better. You look at the Power Tower plants, and go “WOW”! But those huge fields full of massively expensive rotating mirrors are only providing power for 5,000 people, maximum. To power Europe with Solar, you’d have to cover the whole Sahara desert with mirrors.
Nuclear Plants would only need an area the size of a small city.
Plus, if theres ever a hurricane or storm, you have to pick up all those shards of glass and start again
Sean0931 wrote:
Where have people got the idea that Renewables are cheaper than Nuclear?
The reason Renewables are not used is because there so goddam inneficient. Wind turbines can take centuries to pay back their own cost, and solar power plants are little better. You look at the Power Tower plants, and go “WOW”! But those huge fields full of massively expensive rotating mirrors are only providing power for 5,000 people, maximum. To power Europe with Solar, you’d have to cover the whole Sahara desert with mirrors.
Nuclear Plants would only need an area the size of a small city.
Plus, if theres ever a hurricane or storm, you have to pick up all those shards of glass and start again
incorrect. a nuclear power plant cost millions to make AND millions to take down. getting rid of nuclear waste cost just as much, if not more. if there is a slight problem with a nuclear power plant, the plant itself becomes almost useless. nuclear power plants also pose an environmental risk whereas windmills pose less of a threat. scientists still dont know the full capabilities of a wind turbine, but they believe that once they do, wind turbines will be more efficient than power plants. just to let you know.. even building a nuclear power plant in any area causes a lot of problems. many people do not want to live near a power plant and the process in trying to get a plant built is very hard.
That said, however, I think Obama deserves to win. Obama seems intelligent, wheras McCain seems like Bush MK. II. McCain is an idiot for calling Obama naive, the entirity of American politics is naive. At least in Britain the cantidates know everyone hates them (we vote for the one whos less of an arse)
Sean0931 wrote:
That said, however, I think Obama deserves to win. Obama seems intelligent, wheras McCain seems like Bush MK. II. McCain is an idiot for calling Obama naive, the entirity of American politics is naive. At least in Britain the cantidates know everyone hates them (we vote for the one whos less of an arse)
thank you. obama is intelligent..look at his credentials. obama is nowhere near naive. when asked if healthcare should be a priority, a responsibility, or a right, mccain said it should be a responsibility whereas obama said it should be a right. goes to show who knows the people better.
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Sean0931 wrote:
Where have people got the idea that Renewables are cheaper than Nuclear?
The reason Renewables are not used is because there so goddam inneficient. Wind turbines can take centuries to pay back their own cost, and solar power plants are little better. You look at the Power Tower plants, and go “WOW”! But those huge fields full of massively expensive rotating mirrors are only providing power for 5,000 people, maximum. To power Europe with Solar, you’d have to cover the whole Sahara desert with mirrors.
Nuclear Plants would only need an area the size of a small city.
Plus, if theres ever a hurricane or storm, you have to pick up all those shards of glass and start again
incorrect. a nuclear power plant cost millions to make AND millions to take down. getting rid of nuclear waste cost just as much, if not more. if there is a slight problem with a nuclear power plant, the plant itself becomes almost useless. nuclear power plants also pose an environmental risk whereas windmills pose less of a threat. scientists still dont know the full capabilities of a wind turbine, but they believe that once they do, wind turbines will be more efficient than power plants. just to let you know.. even building a nuclear power plant in any area causes a lot of problems. many people do not want to live near a power plant and the process in trying to get a plant built is very hard.
The fact is that renewables produce so little power they are almost insignificant. A nuclear plant may cost more than a single turbine, but it can produce a truly collossal amount of electricity. A well built Nuclear power plant, (like the one in middle England) can produce power for maybe a century or more, without a hitch (there has never been an emergency there). Saying theres an environmental risk is ridiculous, workers inside the plants, working maybe 100ft from the core, recieve less radiation than they would from standing outside. Nuclear facilities are built to take a nearby nuclear strike.
And don’t believe that “scientists expect” bullshit. When those americans rediscovered the ramjet, they “expected” commercial planes travelling at mach 7, which seemed ridiculous to the British team that invented it 10 years earlier.
To give you an idea of how crap turbines are, The UK government have put Turbines on almost every hill. There are thousands of them, across the country, half as much is spent on turbines as is on coal power plants.
Sean0931 wrote:
Where have people got the idea that Renewables are cheaper than Nuclear?
The reason Renewables are not used is because there so goddam inneficient. Wind turbines can take centuries to pay back their own cost, and solar power plants are little better. You look at the Power Tower plants, and go “WOW”! But those huge fields full of massively expensive rotating mirrors are only providing power for 5,000 people, maximum. To power Europe with Solar, you’d have to cover the whole Sahara desert with mirrors.
Nuclear Plants would only need an area the size of a small city.
Plus, if theres ever a hurricane or storm, you have to pick up all those shards of glass and start again
incorrect. a nuclear power plant cost millions to make AND millions to take down. getting rid of nuclear waste cost just as much, if not more. if there is a slight problem with a nuclear power plant, the plant itself becomes almost useless. nuclear power plants also pose an environmental risk whereas windmills pose less of a threat. scientists still dont know the full capabilities of a wind turbine, but they believe that once they do, wind turbines will be more efficient than power plants. just to let you know.. even building a nuclear power plant in any area causes a lot of problems. many people do not want to live near a power plant and the process in trying to get a plant built is very hard.
The fact is that renewables produce so little power they are almost insignificant. A nuclear plant may cost more than a single turbine, but it can produce a truly collossal amount of electricity. A well built Nuclear power plant, (like the one in middle England) can produce power for maybe a century or more, without a hitch (there has never been an emergency there). Saying theres an environmental risk is ridiculous, workers inside the plants, working maybe 100ft from the core, recieve less radiation than they would from standing outside. Nuclear facilities are built to take a nearby nuclear strike.
And don’t believe that “scientists expect” bullshit. When those americans rediscovered the ramjet, they “expected” commercial planes travelling at mach 7, which seemed ridiculous to the British team that invented it 10 years earlier.
i was never talking about the workers. i was talking about the neighborhoods. since you dont live in the us, im guessing its different. “well built” in terms of “never having an emergency” doesnt mean it will never have an emergency during its existence. you never know. look at cheronbyl.
Sean0931 wrote:
Where have people got the idea that Renewables are cheaper than Nuclear?
The reason Renewables are not used is because there so goddam inneficient. Wind turbines can take centuries to pay back their own cost, and solar power plants are little better. You look at the Power Tower plants, and go “WOW”! But those huge fields full of massively expensive rotating mirrors are only providing power for 5,000 people, maximum. To power Europe with Solar, you’d have to cover the whole Sahara desert with mirrors.
Nuclear Plants would only need an area the size of a small city.
Plus, if theres ever a hurricane or storm, you have to pick up all those shards of glass and start again
incorrect. a nuclear power plant cost millions to make AND millions to take down. getting rid of nuclear waste cost just as much, if not more. if there is a slight problem with a nuclear power plant, the plant itself becomes almost useless. nuclear power plants also pose an environmental risk whereas windmills pose less of a threat. scientists still dont know the full capabilities of a wind turbine, but they believe that once they do, wind turbines will be more efficient than power plants. just to let you know.. even building a nuclear power plant in any area causes a lot of problems. many people do not want to live near a power plant and the process in trying to get a plant built is very hard.
The fact is that renewables produce so little power they are almost insignificant. A nuclear plant may cost more than a single turbine, but it can produce a truly collossal amount of electricity. A well built Nuclear power plant, (like the one in middle England) can produce power for maybe a century or more, without a hitch (there has never been an emergency there). Saying theres an environmental risk is ridiculous, workers inside the plants, working maybe 100ft from the core, recieve less radiation than they would from standing outside. Nuclear facilities are built to take a nearby nuclear strike.
And don’t believe that “scientists expect” bullshit. When those americans rediscovered the ramjet, they “expected” commercial planes travelling at mach 7, which seemed ridiculous to the British team that invented it 10 years earlier.
i was never talking about the workers. i was talking about the neighborhoods. since you dont live in the us, im guessing its different. “well built” in terms of “never having an emergency” doesnt mean it will never have an emergency during its existence. you never know. look at cheronbyl.
But that was built by Ukranians, who thought that sinking an entire nuclear submarine fleet in an inland sea would be OK.
