ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
You did good up until the last sentence lol. No need to make attacks, thats going to make him look past all your points and basically say fuck you.
Just look at it this way...no matter what anybody will try to say he will respond with " Iowned your liberal ass...etc”.
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SPEAKERZZZ wrote:
did i just hear something? sounds like bullshit again. oh well..
Wow great debater. Don’t even try politics if you can’t debate it.So just go back to doing whatever and let the smart people deal with the things you don’t understand
yes this is coming from a kid who thinks he’s smart and yet his name is read this if your mom sucked my dick.
I’ve proven I know alot more about this then you do so my name has nothing to do with how stupid you are
oh i pity the republicans.
and I pity ass holes who choose Obama but don’t know shit about him
then you must not be talking about me fucker
No I’m talking to you you should know since you don’t know shit about him or else you wouldn’t be supporting him
and here we have a republican who does not know how to use periods. wonderful. just what america needs.
And heres a liberal who cares about grammar on message boards over politics. Just wonderful.
got a problem with that? wanna do something about it?
yea your americas reason that we are so ignorant and undeducated.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Lets try to be civil guys. RTIYS how bout you outline why you support Mccain and Speakerzzz and Sensfan outline why you support Obama
McCain isn’t a lying shit for one. He doesn’t make empty promises he is realistic and has experience. On the other hand Obama doesn’t know how the country or the economy runs because he has no experience he says he will get out of Iraq but doesn’t know how, he says he will give tax cuts which the economy can’t afford to have, and he says he will switch to alternate resources and not do any offshore drilling which is impossible enless 300 million people can all of a sudden stop using gas. In the end he is either going to do what McCain plans on doing but in a worst state or hes going to go with his own ideas and crash the country entirely
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Last edited 19 Oct 2008 11:24 pm by Read this if your a dumb ass
These are reasons why I like obama:
1. Will end the war in afghanistan
2. Apposes off-shore oil drilling, because really that just damages our earth.
3. Fund hospitality and give taxcuts to anybody making under 2 million a year.
4. Will give medical plans for the small companies including less taxes.
5. Last but not least...he won’t let this country run downwards toward absolute fail nor will he give us 8 more years of what we have had.
Btw he will also bring down the price of college loans..
Now RITYS i’m not trying to “own” you and nor will you “own” since well you never owned..and I know this won’t change your mind about things since well...your mind is too self absorbed in it’s own errogant and fake reality.
Its funny how you mentioned I never owned you when it was just about a week ago that I handed you your ass in our little debate.
These are reasons why I like obama:
1. Will end the war in afghanistan
2. Apposes off-shore oil drilling, because really that just damages our earth.
3. Fund hospitality and give taxcuts to anybody making under 2 million a year.
4. Will give medical plans for the small companies including less taxes.
5. Last but not least...he won’t let this country run downwards toward absolute fail nor will he give us 8 more years of what we have had.
Btw he will also bring down the price of college loans..
Now RITYS i’m not trying to “own” you and nor will you “own” since well you never owned..and I know this won’t change your mind about things since well...your mind is too self absorbed in it’s own errogant and fake reality.
Its funny how you mentioned I never owned you when it was just about a week ago that I handed you your ass in our little debate.
You know it’s funny how you’ve mentioned this same exact sentence for the last 10 days...seriously dude if you ever want to own somebody, I suggest you think of better sentences.
Btw i’m glad you finally gave your reasons why you like mccain, even though I don’t agree with them.
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Why don’t you just say what you really want to say. - “please shut up, don’t make me think”. - Gplex
These are reasons why I like obama:
1. Will end the war in afghanistan
2. Apposes off-shore oil drilling, because really that just damages our earth.
3. Fund hospitality and give taxcuts to anybody making under 2 million a year.
4. Will give medical plans for the small companies including less taxes.
5. Last but not least...he won’t let this country run downwards toward absolute fail nor will he give us 8 more years of what we have had.
Btw he will also bring down the price of college loans..
Now RITYS i’m not trying to “own” you and nor will you “own” since well you never owned..and I know this won’t change your mind about things since well...your mind is too self absorbed in it’s own errogant and fake reality.
Its funny how you mentioned I never owned you when it was just about a week ago that I handed you your ass in our little debate.
You know it’s funny how you’ve mentioned this same exact sentence for the last 10 days...seriously dude if you ever want to own somebody, I suggest you think of better sentences.
Btw i’m glad you finally gave your reasons why you like mccain, even though I don’t agree with them.
Actualy you’ve been mentioning it more then me which shows how badly you hate yourself for losing
These are reasons why I like obama:
1. Will end the war in afghanistan
2. Apposes off-shore oil drilling, because really that just damages our earth.
3. Fund hospitality and give taxcuts to anybody making under 2 million a year.
4. Will give medical plans for the small companies including less taxes.
5. Last but not least...he won’t let this country run downwards toward absolute fail nor will he give us 8 more years of what we have had.
Btw he will also bring down the price of college loans..
Now RITYS i’m not trying to “own” you and nor will you “own” since well you never owned..and I know this won’t change your mind about things since well...your mind is too self absorbed in it’s own errogant and fake reality.
Its funny how you mentioned I never owned you when it was just about a week ago that I handed you your ass in our little debate.
You know it’s funny how you’ve mentioned this same exact sentence for the last 10 days...seriously dude if you ever want to own somebody, I suggest you think of better sentences.
Btw i’m glad you finally gave your reasons why you like mccain, even though I don’t agree with them.
Actualy you’ve been mentioning it more then me which shows how badly you hate yourself for losing
Thanks for ignoring the last part...
The reason why i’ve been mentioning that is so that I can point out what mistakes your doing..the reason for that is so that I can educate your self absorbed mind.
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Why don’t you just say what you really want to say. - “please shut up, don’t make me think”. - Gplex
These are reasons why I like obama:
1. Will end the war in afghanistan
2. Apposes off-shore oil drilling, because really that just damages our earth.
3. Fund hospitality and give taxcuts to anybody making under 2 million a year.
4. Will give medical plans for the small companies including less taxes.
5. Last but not least...he won’t let this country run downwards toward absolute fail nor will he give us 8 more years of what we have had.
Btw he will also bring down the price of college loans..
Now RITYS i’m not trying to “own” you and nor will you “own” since well you never owned..and I know this won’t change your mind about things since well...your mind is too self absorbed in it’s own errogant and fake reality.
Its funny how you mentioned I never owned you when it was just about a week ago that I handed you your ass in our little debate.
You know it’s funny how you’ve mentioned this same exact sentence for the last 10 days...seriously dude if you ever want to own somebody, I suggest you think of better sentences.
Btw i’m glad you finally gave your reasons why you like mccain, even though I don’t agree with them.
Actualy you’ve been mentioning it more then me which shows how badly you hate yourself for losing
Thanks for ignoring the last part...
The reason why i’ve been mentioning that is so that I can point out what mistakes your doing..the reason for that is so that I can educate your self absorbed mind.
You’re the one that needs to be educated. All you have shown is how ignorant you are in politics.
These are reasons why I like obama:
1. Will end the war in afghanistan
2. Apposes off-shore oil drilling, because really that just damages our earth.
3. Fund hospitality and give taxcuts to anybody making under 2 million a year.
4. Will give medical plans for the small companies including less taxes.
5. Last but not least...he won’t let this country run downwards toward absolute fail nor will he give us 8 more years of what we have had.
Btw he will also bring down the price of college loans..
Now RITYS i’m not trying to “own” you and nor will you “own” since well you never owned..and I know this won’t change your mind about things since well...your mind is too self absorbed in it’s own errogant and fake reality.
Its funny how you mentioned I never owned you when it was just about a week ago that I handed you your ass in our little debate.
You know it’s funny how you’ve mentioned this same exact sentence for the last 10 days...seriously dude if you ever want to own somebody, I suggest you think of better sentences.
Btw i’m glad you finally gave your reasons why you like mccain, even though I don’t agree with them.
Actualy you’ve been mentioning it more then me which shows how badly you hate yourself for losing
Thanks for ignoring the last part...
The reason why i’ve been mentioning that is so that I can point out what mistakes your doing..the reason for that is so that I can educate your self absorbed mind.
You’re the one that needs to be educated. All you have shown is how ignorant you are in politics.
Oh lol...seriously it’s just too weird to find someone who is supporting mccain or if anything republicans..
Tell me what the republicans have brought us for the last 8 years besides the war,high gas prices, and numerous and unbelievable taxing...?
Your answer will describe your ignorance of what has been going on, because honestly to me it looks like you have been sitting in a basement without knowing whats going on outside.
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SPEAKERZZZ wrote:
did i just hear something? sounds like bullshit again. oh well..
Wow great debater. Don’t even try politics if you can’t debate it.So just go back to doing whatever and let the smart people deal with the things you don’t understand
yes this is coming from a kid who thinks he’s smart and yet his name is read this if your mom sucked my dick.
I’ve proven I know alot more about this then you do so my name has nothing to do with how stupid you are
oh i pity the republicans.
and I pity ass holes who choose Obama but don’t know shit about him
then you must not be talking about me fucker
No I’m talking to you you should know since you don’t know shit about him or else you wouldn’t be supporting him
and here we have a republican who does not know how to use periods. wonderful. just what america needs.
And heres a liberal who cares about grammar on message boards over politics. Just wonderful.
got a problem with that? wanna do something about it?
yea your americas reason that we are so ignorant and undeducated.
Wow, Are you serious? I’m uneducated? You can’t even speak correctly, let alone come up with a good point about why McPain is better than Obama. Your’re clearly UNEDUCATED (correct way to spell it) about politics considering you had no idea what AIG, Merrill Lynch, or Lehman Brothers have anything to do with the economy. You stupid fuck. I hope Obama wins just so I can rub it into your dumbass face.
SPEAKERZZZ wrote:
1. He’s way too old. Motherfucker will get Alzheimer’s if he wins the election.
2. If he dies, America is fucked.
3. If she’s vice president, America is fucked.
4. If we continue the war, America is fucked (look at the debt we owe China)
5. Republicans fucked us over economically. McCain will fuck us in our asses repeatedly if he wins.
6. “We are winning in Iraq. Iraq is united." Yes, that TOTALLY FUCKING MAKES SENSE because the America imposed a government in Iraq that is dominated by a group of people that was once persecuted and now discriminates the minority.
7. “The economy is doing well." McCain being a dumbass thought the economy was doing fucking well until this fucking recession came along.
8. Cut taxes and support nuclear energy? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS. NUCLEAR ENERGY COSTS A SHITLOAD OF MONEY. where in living fuck are we gonna get money if we cut taxes?
9. Palin thought the bailout helped people who were primarily concerned with the housing crisis. Palin = Mega Fail.
10. another 4 years of republicans? BOO! bill clinton’s presidency = no debt. george bush’s presidency = too much debt. mccain’s presidency = goodbye american economy. hello chinese economy.
OBAMA/BIDEN '08.
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1. Not a valid reason
2. Not a valid reason
3. Not a valid reason
4. We can’t even pay China so there fucked just as much as us.
5. No actualy it was the democrats who stopped regulations which led to the economic disaster
6. This is why we can’t leave they are not united and not stable so if we do leave then there will be chaos and we will look like ass holes for leaving a country to a hell that we started.
7. He didn’t mean it in that way if you weren’t an idiot and actualy paid attention to politics you can see that he ment that the economy is still exanding despite the recession.
8. Now it sounds like your turning against Obama all of a sudden
9. She is wrong about that but it helped the banks from failing which is what let us avoid a complete depression and if you didn’t like the bailout blame the democrats because it was there idea.
10. Its called learning from mistakes McCain is smart enough to know what Bush did wrong and not repeat those.
Disclaimer: If you question me your automaticly a fag
SPEAKERZZZ wrote:
1. He’s way too old. Motherfucker will get Alzheimer’s if he wins the election.
2. If he dies, America is fucked.
3. If she’s vice president, America is fucked.
4. If we continue the war, America is fucked (look at the debt we owe China)
5. Republicans fucked us over economically. McCain will fuck us in our asses repeatedly if he wins.
6. “We are winning in Iraq. Iraq is united." Yes, that TOTALLY FUCKING MAKES SENSE because the America imposed a government in Iraq that is dominated by a group of people that was once persecuted and now discriminates the minority.
7. “The economy is doing well." McCain being a dumbass thought the economy was doing fucking well until this fucking recession came along.
8. Cut taxes and support nuclear energy? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS. NUCLEAR ENERGY COSTS A SHITLOAD OF MONEY. where in living fuck are we gonna get money if we cut taxes?
9. Palin thought the bailout helped people who were primarily concerned with the housing crisis. Palin = Mega Fail.
10. another 4 years of republicans? BOO! bill clinton’s presidency = no debt. george bush’s presidency = too much debt. mccain’s presidency = goodbye american economy. hello chinese economy.
OBAMA/BIDEN '08.
Disclaimer: If you post in this topic, you AUTOMATICALLY agree with everything I say.
1. Not a valid reason
2. Not a valid reason
3. Not a valid reason
4. We can’t even pay China so there fucked just as much as us.
5. No actualy it was the democrats who stopped regulations which led to the economic disaster
6. This is why we can’t leave they are not united and not stable so if we do leave then there will be chaos and we will look like ass holes for leaving a country to a hell that we started.
7. He didn’t mean it in that way if you weren’t an idiot and actualy paid attention to politics you can see that he ment that the economy is still exanding despite the recession.
8. Now it sounds like your turning against Obama all of a sudden
9. She is wrong about that but it helped the banks from failing which is what let us avoid a complete depression and if you didn’t like the bailout blame the democrats because it was there idea.
10. Its called learning from mistakes McCain is smart enough to know what Bush did wrong and not repeat those.
Disclaimer: If you question me your automaticly a fag
1. valid reason
2. valid reason so suck my dick
3. valid reason so lick my shaft
4. china is not seriously that fucked. chinese economy is expanding. japan is currently the largest creditor therefore japan is more fucked.
5. democrats stopped regulations? republicans are strongly against regulations so speak for yourself, you republican dipshit.
6. if we didnt go to war in the first place, we would not be owing so much money. thank you you fucking republicans.
7.economy is not expanding. wtf are you talking about. jobs are being outsourced, america currently owes large debt, recession occurring. where is america expanding? america buys more than it sells in china. check your facts.
8.mccain advocated nuclear power you dumbass. obama strongly advocates wind and solar energy..which costs much less than nuclear power plants.
9. “it helped the banks from failing." dumbass. washington mutual was recently bought...lehman brothers was bought...merrill lynch is dead and now AIG is fucked. bailout was “democrats idea." incorrect. both parties joined together to form the bailout, you stupid dipshit.
10.yes thats why mccain will still continue the war in iraq. dumbass.
disclaimer: if you argue with my points, you are officially fucking stupid.
1. you’re a dumbass
2. you’re a dumbass
3. you’re a dumbass
4. There economy is worst then ours and as we fail so do theres. Chinas just setting themselves up for a major crash.
5. Yes the Bush administration(not saying Bush is a good president) tried to regulate these companies which were the major contributers to Obamas compaign but the democrats stopped it. Don’t belive me? watch this
6. Thats true but were in the war now so bitching about the past like democrates do is not going to help for the war now.
7. It is were trading more then ever NAFTA is doing great workwere still the center of the world economy its just the stock market here is crashing which is whats killing the economy.
8.LOL? Nuclear power is alot more cheap then Obamas idea we don’t even know if solar energy could power entire cities like New York Nuclear energy is the best thing right now.
9. Ok I don’t know that those companies have to do with banks but a shit load of banks were failing so the bailout was put in place to fix that and democrates came up with a bailout the republicans only did it when there was no other choice.
10. Like I said getting out now is the worst idea.
disclaimer: your a ignorant little shit who can’t accept that your dead wrong
“Neither party has done anything to stop this from happening despite all the signs it was coming.
On Sept. 10, 2003, U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, testified before House Financial Services Committee, which was holding hearings regarding special privileges extended to government sponsored enterprises (GSEs). Think Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. In his testimony. Paul criticized such privileges in general and warned of the potential for disaster posed by government involvement with Fannie and Freddie specifically.
Paul noted that according to the Congressional Budget Office, housing related GSEs received $13.6 billion in indirect federal subsidies in fiscal 2000 and had a line of credit with the United States Treasury exceeding $2 billion. That line of credit Paul said was an explicit promise by the Treasury to bail out GSE’s in times of economic difficulty. (Sound familiar?)
“[The line of credit] helps the GSEs attract investors who are willing to settle for lower yields than they would demand in the absence of the subsidy," Paul testified. “Thus, the line of credit distorts the allocation of capital. More importantly, the line of credit is a promise on behalf of the government to engage in a huge unconstitutional and immoral income transfer from working Americans to holders of GSE debt."
As Paul saw the situation some five years ago, the government backing isolated GSE management from market discipline. If Fannie and Freddie were not underwritten by the federal government, he told the committee, investors would demand the institutions held to higher management and accounting practices.
“Ironically, by transferring the risk of a widespread mortgage default, the government increases the likelihood of a painful crash in the housing market," Paul predicted. “This is because the special privileges granted to Fannie and Freddie have distorted the housing market by allowing them to attract capital they could not attract under pure market conditions. As a result, capital is diverted from its most productive use into housing. This reduces the efficacy of the entire market and thus reduces the standard of living of all Americans.
“Despite the long-term damage to the economy inflicted by the government’s interference in the housing market, the government’s policy of diverting capital to other uses creates a short-term boom in housing," Paul went on. “Like all artificially created bubbles, the boom in housing prices cannot last forever. When housing prices fall, homeowners will experience difficulty as their equity is wiped out. Furthermore, the holders of the mortgage debt will also have a loss. These losses will be greater than they would have otherwise been had government policy not actively encouraged over-investment in housing.
“I hope today’s hearing sheds light on how special privileges granted to GSEs distort the housing market and endanger American taxpayers," Paul concluded. “Congress should act to remove taxpayer support from the housing GSEs before the bubble bursts and taxpayers are once again forced to bail out investors who were misled by foolish government interference in the market."
On the same day, Paul introduced the “Free Housing Market Enhancement Act." The legislation would have removed government subsidies from the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae), the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac), and the National Home Loan Bank Board. The bill had no cosponsors; it stalled in the committee process."
Explain this as well. Blame the Democrats? You do realize that Republicans were in charge of the executive branch and Congress before the Democrats came to power just several months ago (Republicans were in charge for about 6 years) and they still couldn’t regulate the housing giants. So why blame the Democrats right now? Jimmy Carter is considered one of the worst presidents in United States history, but it’s not the Democratic party’s fault currently. It’s the Republicans' fault for not regulating the housing market.
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