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advice and a Tip wrote:

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Experienced activist Republican wrote: If you guys want to get educated about what goes on in the real world then you will pay attention to 4 important, vital people. Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O Rielly.
Those four know what really goes n in the modern news.

This isnt cronkites landscape. Jennings wasnt quite the par you put him as.
FOX news is the source you should watch or pay attention to primarily because they reporting the facts 100% of the time, have no bias like newspapers and all the other channels, are not boring like CBS, BBC, PBS, and know how to present News.

Oh, and their viewers are more than all the other channels combined.

Back to the focus, the four i mentioned are the ones who will move the Republican party forward. Steele is a fool and a bumbling moron. The Democrats are trying to spread Socialism, among other things, over the country.

If the Republican party goes extinct you will lose the only party that truly looks out in its best intrest for those who are real Americans.

Rush, Bill, Sean and Glenn all have sper high ratings as well. That stands for something. As Opposed to the giant dynasty of fools on ABC. And CNN? They never report on half the stuff they say they do.

Fact: Fox news called them out on not covering the tea-parties happening recently. Shows how idiotic they are. The other networks did half ass jobs of maybe mentining the events. While FOX news actually had reporters take place in the event.

This guy is correct.

FOX News is always unbiased. And covers events that no other networks cover. Fox calls them out on their bullshit as well.
You have yet to live in the real world if you think FOX news is not the best news out there.
And yes the President -of the united states-(not mine) is a socialist Communistic, Marxist. The Proof is in the fact that he isrespinsible for 100% of the Federal defecit today which is staggering. So this is all his fault. Spending never ever solved any problem in the history of the planet. We should have let well enough alone. Then things would turn around.
California is broke while the automakers are dead and the President is off wasting time giving speeches to children, supporting a stupid health care reform when the Democrats have a plan that does not help in any way however you look at it, and is such a fool that he does not know when he is wrong. Those 4 talkshow hosts are the best thing because they call Obama on his Marxist crap.
I know what the liberals use for those four. They are so jealous that those four have the highest rating in the country and viewship that they commonly refer to them unfarily as the four horeshitmen. Well let me say that in all my experience FOX news is truly unbiased, the best news station around for its hosts are all fair balanced and call out BS and know what the average joe needs to do and are not Fascists.

CNN is so daft they never cover anything. They did not cover the rallies. Rick Sanchez is a asshole who never backs up what he says. For ABC, Gibson is not genuine and dissapoints me. George Step is the dummest man alive.
Diane Saywer is a dum bitch.
MSNBC has that Olberman fool who goes around \“picking out when FOX misleads\". He is not credible. And He only slings insults.

Rush Limbaugh knows when to call out the leader of a group. He called out that Steele was not running the party as he should and that he whould let someone more active take his place. His beliefs are fair and he points out the lies of others. If you watched him you would have seen when he called out the femenists as simply being crybabies as a charade for unattractive women to get somewhere. And you would know what he has going for him since it is a fact that he is the number one listened to talk show host. He actually bashes scientists for all their lies and failures. He takes stances that are not objective like the blogs he calls out. He has in the past shut up the religious nuts when he proved that the death penalty is moral fully.

Bill O Rielly knows what the real deal is and tells people to shut their mouth when they interrupt him. For example he himself called out that now dead abortion doctor Tiller practically needed to die for killing babies. He tells anyone no matter who they are to shutup. Even liberals and independents who get in his way. He was as true when he said the Dixie Chicks need to be bitch slapped around as he was when he said that moveon.org and the huffington post and the other news sites are the new KKK. Bill O Rielly properly shut up Bill Moyers and Dan Rather. Did you know that Bill proved that Obama is unfit because he does not affiliate with a Religion generally? He calls out the Atheists too.

Glenn Beck is right on the money. Second, He actually called out and proved that Obama is a giant racist. And he proves that Aethists are the ones destroying America.He scared away the liberal sponsors who could not handle the truth. He also was the one who proved that Cash for Clunkers was giant scam. He calls out the giant lie about the fictional problem of global warming. Unlike Obama he does not pay scientists to make news.
Sean Hannity is one of the few people in todays world who takes all the facts and presents them accurately. Then he reflects on what is going on. He caught the President on calling all excutives of corporations of America as evil bad people. He

CBS fails in the reporting department.
NBC cannot bring brains to the table. Do not try to cite the newspapers either. They are all heavily liberal.

Finally you should know that while Obama pushes government that Bush never expanded government once. He never pushed big government programs. Difference between Dem and Rep. But Obama is wasting time. He even spent Airforce one gas to travel to direct support for the Olympics that the FOX news hosts rightly said should not happen in Chicago, the hometown of Hussien Obama. I am happy that the Fox news hosts got up enough people on their side to stop the Olympics from being in this country in 2016. Glenn Beck was my favorite in that from the begenning he rallied that the US should not have the Olympics then gathered up the support to deny Obama.
Obama needs to stop spending airforce one gas so the defecit quits going up. Then he can go ahead and deal with Iran accordingly. Instead of dicking with the Generals calling for Troops, he needs to get with the program. Or we could tell the Taliban to take over Afghanistan. I mean why should we care for any other country?
As for Iran here is proof why we should declare war.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/01/fox-news-poll-say-use-force-stop-iran/?test=latestnews?test=latestnews

Most Americans Support going to war and using the strongest force available to wipe them off the map. Yet Obama wants to do elsewise. He is not for the people when the proof indicated most Americans want different.
Anyone who is supposedly educated is a fool who will kill America. Like Obama and his buddies. Ayers for example. That also is likely why he spread his ideology to school children to try to educate them like him. Joe Wilson is right that he Lies everytime. he has not done a single thing.
I will be voting for President Palin in the future and will have to watch her take care of the defecit that is 100% Obamas fault. And all of you should realize that Fox news will teach you what you need to know. Fair and Balanced. All the time. Everytime.


agreed fully.

Someone else put it best:
Because he\'s a foreign-born, socialist, communist, racist, Marxist,sexist, fascist, elitist, Muslim jihadist with a tad too much melanin...

My thoughts are that this is true. After all FOX news provd with solid reasons why Chicago and America shouldnt have the olympics. Hannity pointed out the chicago mafia. The News mentioned how it would bankrupt the city. No one needs more problems. Obama deserved to lose the bid. the bid was unamerican from the get go.

Green Ninja is right. We should stop giving charity money to all organizations and poor countries and stop trading with the cheaters. We could use the money a lot better ourselves rather than feed some poor person who needs a government handout. If he cant survive too bad for him. The strong survive. The weak perish. Especially those who canot help themselves because they are lazy or due to beliefs.

The Republicans are the only ones who get anything done. Why did Obama raise the Defecit by several times what it was? His economic stimulus killed the US. The economy is really getting worse. It definitly would have fixed itself if this hadnt happened.




Both of you in my eyes are a bit off..well...way off..

sorry, i meant all 3. dytrader, conservatively, and E.a.r.


From the poll you guys citing...which was false and slightly rigged in wording...(google news tipped me off to that a while ago)..

wait, unamerican to have the olympics??????in america???


So, its a good thing to not have the olympics?

>_>



Rush Limbaugh knows when to call out the leader of a group. He called out that Steele was not running the party as he should and that he whould let someone more active take his place. His beliefs are fair and he points out the lies of others. If you watched him you would have seen when he called out the femenists as simply being crybabies as a charade for unattractive women to get somewhere. And you would know what he has going for him since it is a fact that he is the number one listened to talk show host. He actually bashes scientists for all their lies and failures. He takes stances that are not objective like the blogs he calls out. has in the past shut up the religious nuts when he proved that the death penalty is moral fully.

Bill O Rielly knows what the real deal is and tells people to shut their mouth when they interrupt him. For example he himself called out that now dead abortion doctor Tiller practically needed to die for killing babies. He tells anyone no matter who they are to shutup. Even liberals and independents who get in his way. He was as true when he said the Dixie Chicks need to be bitch slapped around as he was when he said that moveon.org and the huffington post and the other news sites are the new KKK. Bill O Rielly properly shut up Bill Moyers and Dan Rather. Did you know that Bill proved that Obama is unfit because he does not affiliate with a Religion generally? He calls out the Atheists too.

Glenn Beck is right on the money. Second, He actually called out and proved that Obama is a giant racist. And he proves that Aethists are the ones destroying America.He scared away the liberal sponsors who could not handle the truth. He also was the one who proved that Cash for Clunkers was giant scam. He calls out the giant lie about the fictional problem of global warming. Unlike Obama he does not pay scientists to make news.
Sean Hannity is one of the few people in todays world who takes all the facts and presents them accurately. Then he reflects on what is going on. He caught the President on calling all excutives of corporations of America as evil bad people.



moral? as in the thou shall not kill thing? so who were the “nuts”?



>_>


this country worries me...

Global warming is FICTIONAL?
>_>


Green Ninja is right. We should stop giving charity money to all organizations and poor countries and stop trading with the cheaters. We could use the money a lot better ourselves rather than feed some poor person who needs a government handout. If he cant survive too bad for him. The strong survive. The weak perish.



I don’t BUY it..

YOu are supposed to support the poor until they can get into a position to do better. AKA what happened at the end of the great depression.

Anyone who is supposedly educated is a fool who will kill America. Like Obama and his buddies.



Do you really believe this?

Why did Obama raise the Defecit by several times what it was?



He did NOT, and i can back it up with figures. ...


foreign-born, socialist, communist, racist, Marxist,sexist, fascist, elitist, Muslim jihadist with a tad too much melanin...

So you say...

in the modern world..progress is defined as movng forward...towards a more likely stable future....yet you....seem determined to bash those who represent this. Even if you weren’t false there, then that would be what it takes....and if you would stannd by that to prevent things from moving forward....where are your values? What do you value? ...



I’ve held off on this....but rest assured, to any more after you three.....all of these are not accurate...i could refute them easily....

but before you choose to try to duel me...question what you want in the long run...take a good look at the whole picture..then ee which paths ultimately lead to a better world...


as for you 3 posters..
if i have to take on all three of you ,myelf, then i will..

I could dismiss your rantings...yet i feelthere at least needs to be a observable voice of reason...



It definitly would have fixed itself if this hadnt happened

with what indication? speculation? then don’t claim that superior over other , by itself....



At the end of the great depression, we got back on our feet because the president made a bunch of pointless jobs and stole crops from farmers. That’s putting it bluntly. By taking crops, we were able to raise the prices on food, which gave more to the farmers and workers, which eventually spread around to others. And by giving thousands of people pointless jobs (The government would pay people to move dirt from one area to another, for no reason. Just to create jobs. The Hoover Dam was actually a project made to help give more jobs, aswell.)

It had nothing to do with handouts. ACTUALLY, the first president, Hoover,(There were two that overlapped the depression.) thought it would be a good idea to give money to people, much like what you’re saying we should do for Africa, and it actually just made the rich richer and the poor poorer. In order for a community to survive, they need to have some sort of income, just like a household. If you just keep giving them money, they won’t be pushed to find some way to bring in their own income. (Such as farming or making clothing, etc.) Besides, we don’t give money to the poor. We give money to their rich dictators. You’re in denial if you think any of that money reaches the ones that really need it.


And in a side note, conservatively, that’s not what I meant. I don’t think shutting down private organizations that give starving African children food and water and education is a good idea. Just the government aid. I don’t think we should feed the tyranny anymore.


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mmmmmmmm smart politics smiley

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Green_Ninja wrote:
If anything, we should cut the ties to all those countries we give relief funds to. It’s the only way they can learn to make an economy on their own and grow as a nation. If they fail and everyone dies, then so be it. It’s called natural selection. Sometimes it just happens.



The causes of poverty in various African countries include, but are not limited to, corrupt government, exploitation of resources by 1st world countries both in the past and present day, the historical division of African “countries” by 1st world powers (such as Britain) without any regard to traditional tribal territories.

None of this has anything to do with “natural selection”.


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Etain wrote:

Green_Ninja wrote:
If anything, we should cut the ties to all those countries we give relief funds to. It’s the only way they can learn to make an economy on their own and grow as a nation. If they fail and everyone dies, then so be it. It’s called natural selection. Sometimes it just happens.



The causes of poverty in various African countries include, but are not limited to, corrupt government, exploitation of resources by 1st world countries both in the past and present day, the historical division of African “countries” by 1st world powers (such as Britain) without any regard to traditional tribal territories.

None of this has anything to do with “natural selection”.



Yeah, you’re right. I honestly can’t remember why I even put that in there.


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yeah that is the exception... you know when somebody fucks up your country and it isn’t your fault... but still smart politics

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Experienced activist Republican wrote:
Rush, Bill, Sean and Glenn all have sper high ratings as well.


That really scares wally.


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lol monotheists


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The MASK wrote: I don’t fully believe politics is real... I think it’s something we made up to stop us from killing ourselves or creating peace.



It’s called Hobbsian ideology. Thomas Hobbes argued that we would contract ourselves out of the “stated of nautre” for self-preservation and to pursue our desires and pleasures. Essentially politics is about control and protection as we as a race can’t do so on our own. Very authoritarian way of looking at things but it’s quite understandable.


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Really I don’t think the republican party needs to go extinct. They just need to separate themselves from the radicals. I mean for some odd reason the far right is acting like a bunch of crazy neo-fascists and they are allowing it to be associated with their party. I mean you are seeing them take crazy internet conspiracies, promote it as the truth, and then act like they have justice. All for an agenda. Then as soon as they get the government numbers on their side they’ll go back to this whole less liberties for more protection... neo-fascists haha.

Now it’s not so hot when I can use scare words to make the other side look worse but the sad thing is I’m not too far off from the truth. The republican party seems to be promoting nowadays anti-poor, anti-middle class, anti-minority, anti-intellectual (attacks on global warming, science, etc), etc. Seems to all amount to they have pictures what an American should be and you are either with us or against us. It’s called racist-nationalism and basically what fascism is.


These are the tactics and the ideas the extreme right hold on to and was very prevalent during the last administration. Republican party can’t afford to be associated with that as that eliminates a very moderate America. Not to mention it shows they aren’t willing to compromise on anything. But hey they will go extinct if they can’t get past only getting white, protestant, southerners.


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Green_Ninja wrote: So.. are you saying government should give money to poorer countries or something?



No, just pointing out that socio-economic status has more to do with where you were born in society, not hard work. Education is the second biggest factor, but don’t forget that education is related to how much wealth you have... which is again strongly related to who your parents were.

Green_Ninja wrote: Oh wait... we already do that, that’s right.



I admit, it’s not working very effectively in long term, but I want other strategies implemented, not to just let them rot in the gutter as Weeman suggested (taxes are essential for any kind of decent welfare system)

Green_Ninja wrote: And what does it do? Make them even poorer. I’m not sure if that’s what you were implying, but if it was, you should really start paying attention. All the money anyone gives to poor people in 2nd and 3rd world countries, sometimes ever 1st world countries, goes to corrupt leaders. The little that the poor actually does get is just looted from them by robbers. The more money we give them, the more those people suffer.



Exactly, I want more money spent to reducing corruption and improving education, technical ability, social harmony and health standards in these countries. Not just handouts, which only ensure short term survival, not long term prosperity.

Green_Ninja wrote: If anything, we should cut the ties to all those countries we give relief funds to. It’s the only way they can learn to make an economy on their own and grow as a nation.



They’re not going to do that until their standards improve, which will only happen from external intervention. Their leaders are too powerful for the people to resist, they need to be replaced. People need to be safer and better educated before the economy will become stable.

In fact a lot of African nations are poor because European nations exploited them in the past and then left them alone in the industrialised world without good leaders to rule them or sufficient education and technical skills in the workforce needed for a decent standard of production.

Green_Ninja wrote: If they fail and everyone dies, then so be it. It’s called natural selection. Sometimes it just happens.



WTF you pathetic excuse for a human being! If you seriously believe that you have no higher moral standards than Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold did.

Just because something is in nature, doesn’t make it an ideal.

Green_Ninja wrote: Also, on a side note, don’t act like you’re too upset that actors and celebrities make a lot of money. You support them every time you listen to a song or watch a movie.



I very rarely buy albums or DVD’s. Besides, the fact that I’m expected to pay a certain price for a product does not mean I genuinely believe the artists deserve the amount of money they’re recieving for their sales, nor does it mean I’m happy with them not paying their fair share in taxes like everyone else (as Weeman suggested).

bonesboy08 wrote: capitalism is proven to be a protestant driven idea



Capitalism existed in ancient societies long before Protestantism. There’s nothing wrong with a free market anyone, so long as it’s regulated to ensure businessmen do not exploit their workers, consumers or the environment. All societies need a balance of socialism such as taxes, welfare, public services, defence etc, but they also need a fair share of capitalism in the form of private property rights and economic freedom. At least, for a productive and ethical society they do. Pure socialism (communism) doesn’t work, but then again 100% capitalism (Ayn Rand style) doesn’t work either.


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Shaun of the Living wrote:

Green_Ninja wrote: So.. are you saying government should give money to poorer countries or something?



No, just pointing out that socio-economic status has more to do with where you were born in society, not hard work. Education is the second biggest factor, but don’t forget that education is related to how much wealth you have... which is again strongly related to who your parents were.

Green_Ninja wrote: Oh wait... we already do that, that’s right.



I admit, it’s not working very effectively in long term, but I want other strategies implemented, not to just let them rot in the gutter as Weeman suggested (taxes are essential for any kind of decent welfare system)

Green_Ninja wrote: And what does it do? Make them even poorer. I’m not sure if that’s what you were implying, but if it was, you should really start paying attention. All the money anyone gives to poor people in 2nd and 3rd world countries, sometimes ever 1st world countries, goes to corrupt leaders. The little that the poor actually does get is just looted from them by robbers. The more money we give them, the more those people suffer.



Exactly, I want more money spent to reducing corruption and improving education, technical ability, social harmony and health standards in these countries. Not just handouts, which only ensure short term survival, not long term prosperity.

Green_Ninja wrote: If anything, we should cut the ties to all those countries we give relief funds to. It’s the only way they can learn to make an economy on their own and grow as a nation.



They’re not going to do that until their standards improve, which will only happen from external intervention. Their leaders are too powerful for the people to resist, they need to be replaced. People need to be safer and better educated before the economy will become stable.

In fact a lot of African nations are poor because European nations exploited them in the past and then left them alone in the industrialised world without good leaders to rule them or sufficient education and technical skills in the workforce needed for a decent standard of production.

Green_Ninja wrote: If they fail and everyone dies, then so be it. It’s called natural selection. Sometimes it just happens.



WTF you pathetic excuse for a human being! If you seriously believe that you have no higher moral standards than Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold did.

Just because something is in nature, doesn’t make it an ideal.

Green_Ninja wrote: Also, on a side note, don’t act like you’re too upset that actors and celebrities make a lot of money. You support them every time you listen to a song or watch a movie.



I very rarely buy albums or DVD’s. Besides, the fact that I’m expected to pay a certain price for a product does not mean I genuinely believe the artists deserve the amount of money they’re recieving for their sales, nor does it mean I’m happy with them not paying their fair share in taxes like everyone else (as Weeman suggested).

bonesboy08 wrote: capitalism is proven to be a protestant driven idea



Capitalism existed in ancient societies long before Protestantism. There’s nothing wrong with a free market anyone, so long as it’s regulated to ensure businessmen do not exploit their workers, consumers or the environment. All societies need a balance of socialism such as taxes, welfare, public services, defence etc, but they also need a fair share of capitalism in the form of private property rights and economic freedom. At least, for a productive and ethical society they do. Pure socialism (communism) doesn’t work, but then again 100% capitalism (Ayn Rand style) doesn’t work either.


I said it was driven NOT their original idea, as in they mastered captialism

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One day, the republican party will become the only party and liberals will finally be denied the right to vote then the US can finally become a 100% christian nation like it should.

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No, it doesn’t genius. The US wouldn’t even BE a democracy without the existence of Republicans. Although in my opinion, Democrats>>Republicans.


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Morpheus wrote: No, it doesn’t genius. The US wouldn’t even BE a democracy without the existence of Republicans. Although in my opinion, Democrats>>Republicans.


nah we just need a party to replace them one that is tempered down and makes it harder for the conservative weeds (too much fertilizer) to grow in the grassy knoll that is our democracy... and i am sure somebody will say we should do the same with liberals...nah they are the flowers and fruit that the knoll bares XD (the media and public opinion is the fertilizer and should only be spread on the left side)

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Both parties should. It was never intended for any 1 or 2 paries to go for so long.

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pola wrote: Both parties should. It was never intended for any 1 or 2 paries to go for so long.


parties were never intended to begin with


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Hao Asakura wrote:

pola wrote: Both parties should. It was never intended for any 1 or 2 paries to go for so long.


parties were never intended to begin with


but don’t you love them it islike my mom’s favoite soap opera played out on a national/global stage

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bonesboy08 wrote:

Hao Asakura wrote:

pola wrote: Both parties should. It was never intended for any 1 or 2 paries to go for so long.


parties were never intended to begin with


but don’t you love them it islike my mom’s favoite soap opera played out on a national/global stage


Sometimes. Somestimes I hate all the party shit. It’s like, Yeah, because all these people believe the exact same thing right?

I’m going to register as Democrat, but that’s only cause I want a say in the primaries. But honestly, I will go for whichever candidate is the best for the job imo.

If that is a republican then so be it.


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kill the idealist


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Weeman wrote: kill the idealist


WHERE!? straight


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