6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, [a] Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
— — Isaiah 9:6
Satan is a god:
4The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
— — 2 Corinthians 4:4
God is a god:
Well that’s obvious...
OMG OMG!!! Three gods!!!
So wathca think?
you stupid douchebag, i can tell you arent a Christian, because the post you made shows no knowledge of Christianity, you can talk about your theories when you actually know what youre talking about, but now, shutup
Gen. Ch1 vs. 26...Then god said " let US make humans in OUR image to be like US......The words “our” and “us” promote more than one divine being...and don’t forget this is waaay before MAN came up with the whole trinity thing.....
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“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen F. Roberts
riptorn311 wrote:
Gen. Ch1 vs. 26...Then god said " let US make humans in OUR image to be like US......The words “our” and “us” promote more than one divine being...and don’t forget this is waaay before MAN came up with the whole trinity thing.....
I think by “our” and “us” God meant other angelic creatures.
True. The “our” and “us” describes the other heavenly beings. God isn’t the only one up there.
In fact, there are also CLASSES of angels, namely Angels, Archangels, Principalities, Virtues, Powers, Dominions, Thrones, Cherubs, Seraphs. Heaven is already a place of crowds before we came.
Why would God need anyone else to help him make the world? He can do anything.
angeloelibz24 wrote:
True. The “our” and “us” describes the other heavenly beings. God isn’t the only one up there.
In fact, there are also CLASSES of angels, namely Angels, Archangels, Principalities, Virtues, Powers, Dominions, Thrones, Cherubs, Seraphs. Heaven is already a place of crowds before we came.
Where are any of those classes of beings mentioned in the Bible?)
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angeloelibz24 wrote:
True. The “our” and “us” describes the other heavenly beings. God isn’t the only one up there.
In fact, there are also CLASSES of angels, namely Angels, Archangels, Principalities, Virtues, Powers, Dominions, Thrones, Cherubs, Seraphs. Heaven is already a place of crowds before we came.
Where are any of those classes of beings mentioned in the Bible?)
I’m not sure. They are taught in Catholic Schools, though. There are probably references to some of them in the bible, but I can’t remember
angeloelibz24 wrote:
True. The “our” and “us” describes the other heavenly beings. God isn’t the only one up there.
In fact, there are also CLASSES of angels, namely Angels, Archangels, Principalities, Virtues, Powers, Dominions, Thrones, Cherubs, Seraphs. Heaven is already a place of crowds before we came.
Where are any of those classes of beings mentioned in the Bible?
I’m not sure. They are taught in Catholic Schools, though. There are probably references to some of them in the bible, but I can’t remember
To me it really seems like the Catholic Church just adds a lot of stuff to the Bible that’s not in there.
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Reef wrote:
I know cherubs, seraphs, and archangels are in the Bible but not Principalities, Virtues, Powers, Dominions, Thrones.
I don’t know why God would need angels for creation though. Heck I don’t even know why God would need any of us.
He wouldn’t. If he’s perfect he would have no desire to create anything in the first place.
Maybe he got bored. lol.
Don’t know if you’re being sarcastic, but boredom would be an imperfection, right?
Yeah I suppose it would, I don’t think God could ever be perfect anyway. Not in the “My morals>>>Humans” way. Maybe perfect evolutionary ways I suppose. But eh, the whole God created the universe and him being perfect doesn’t really make sense to me.
Reef wrote:
I know cherubs, seraphs, and archangels are in the Bible but not Principalities, Virtues, Powers, Dominions, Thrones.
I don’t know why God would need angels for creation though. Heck I don’t even know why God would need any of us.
He wouldn’t. If he’s perfect he would have no desire to create anything in the first place.
Maybe he got bored. lol.
Don’t know if you’re being sarcastic, but boredom would be an imperfection, right?
Yeah I suppose it would, I don’t think God could ever be perfect anyway. Not in the “My morals>>>Humans” way. Maybe perfect evolutionary ways I suppose. But eh, the whole God created the universe and him being perfect doesn’t really make sense to me.
There’s no such thing as evolutionary perfection, really. You cannot say a human is superior to a lion or bacteria, for example.
Reef wrote:
I know cherubs, seraphs, and archangels are in the Bible but not Principalities, Virtues, Powers, Dominions, Thrones.
I don’t know why God would need angels for creation though. Heck I don’t even know why God would need any of us.
He wouldn’t. If he’s perfect he would have no desire to create anything in the first place.
Maybe he got bored. lol.
Don’t know if you’re being sarcastic, but boredom would be an imperfection, right?
Yeah I suppose it would, I don’t think God could ever be perfect anyway. Not in the “My morals>>>Humans” way. Maybe perfect evolutionary ways I suppose. But eh, the whole God created the universe and him being perfect doesn’t really make sense to me.
There’s no such thing as evolutionary perfection, really. You cannot say a human is superior to a lion or bacteria, for example.
Eh I suppose not. Every species has it’s advantages.
Reef wrote:
I know cherubs, seraphs, and archangels are in the Bible but not Principalities, Virtues, Powers, Dominions, Thrones.
I don’t know why God would need angels for creation though. Heck I don’t even know why God would need any of us.
He wouldn’t. If he’s perfect he would have no desire to create anything in the first place.
Maybe he got bored. lol.
Don’t know if you’re being sarcastic, but boredom would be an imperfection, right?
Yeah I suppose it would, I don’t think God could ever be perfect anyway. Not in the “My morals>>>Humans” way. Maybe perfect evolutionary ways I suppose. But eh, the whole God created the universe and him being perfect doesn’t really make sense to me.
There’s no such thing as evolutionary perfection, really. You cannot say a human is superior to a lion or bacteria, for example.
Eh I suppose not. Every species has it’s advantages.
Even if they don’t have their advantages in survival, there is no real meaning of life... so what’s to determine what’s better than something else? Better at reproducing? Better at not surviving? Better at swimming? Better at eating food? etc. etc.
Really, when it comes to superiority, purpose, morals, possession and authority... all of these things are subjective...
Speaking of perfection and imperfection, in truth we define our own “perfect” and “imperfect” and our own “good” and “bad”. Yeah, we can consider a oxygen-filled place full of stuff we desire utopia, but that’s JUST us humans. We are not alone in the universe if you know what I mean lol.
For me, the universe is already perfect. There is no imperfection in this world as how we humans describe it. So I don’t consider making mistakes as being imperfect. I consider it being...human.
angeloelibz24 wrote:
Speaking of perfection and imperfection, in truth we define our own “perfect” and “imperfect” and our own “good” and “bad”. Yeah, we can consider a oxygen-filled place full of stuff we desire utopia, but that’s JUST us humans. We are not alone in the universe if you know what I mean lol.
For me, the universe is already perfect. There is no imperfection in this world as how we humans describe it. So I don’t consider making mistakes as being imperfect. I consider it being...human.
