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21 Jun 2009 07:19 am
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I have had a few people telling me I need to have an open mind. This video explains why this statement is bs - better to watch the video then read a wall of text.


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Yes, it’s a pain in the ass when I’m arguing with someone who believes in astrology or something and I present all these arguments for why they’re wrong, and they just say “You need to be open minded." rather than countering my arguments.


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Based on this video, yes. I am indeed open-minded. When I’m presented with convincing evidence, it does indeed affect what I believe. I was close-minded as an atheist for most of my life, however, and I have no problem admitting that.

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Maggot Face wrote: Based on this video, yes. I am indeed open-minded. When I’m presented with convincing evidence, it does indeed affect what I believe. I was close-minded as an atheist for most of my life, however, and I have no problem admitting that.


How did you have a close mind?


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I have an open mind.

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King Boo wrote: I have an open mind.


....

King Boo wrote: Even doesn’t exists, evil is just the absence of God.


Clearly you dont.


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Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: I have an open mind.


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King Boo wrote: Even doesn’t exists, evil is just the absence of God.


Clearly you dont.


I was just quoting Albert Einstein.

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Sometimes I get the feeling you are a nutter...


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KingBoo wrote: I was just quoting Albert Einstein.


Just because someone is smart doesn’t mean they’re right about everything they say. Albert Einstein also married his cousin, are you also going to follow his lead in that example?


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I try to be open minded.


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Gplex wrote: Sometimes I get the feeling you are a nutter...


He did say it.

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Shaun of the Living wrote:

KingBoo wrote: I was just quoting Albert Einstein.


Just because someone is smart doesn’t mean they’re right about everything they say. Albert Einstein also married his cousin, are you also going to follow his lead in that example?


Not that I believe it, but it’s still a smart piece of wisdom if your a christian. I’m not christian, I am undecided.

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King Boo wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

KingBoo wrote: I was just quoting Albert Einstein.


Just because someone is smart doesn’t mean they’re right about everything they say. Albert Einstein also married his cousin, are you also going to follow his lead in that example?


Not that I believe it, but it’s still a smart piece of wisdom if your a christian. I’m not christian, I am undecided.


I dont believe you.


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If I said I have an open mind I would be portraying that I have a closed mind by saying this.

So in fact I would have to say NO I don’t have an open mind just to answer the question.


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Depends on the situation.


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Gplex wrote:

Maggot Face wrote: Based on this video, yes. I am indeed open-minded. When I’m presented with convincing evidence, it does indeed affect what I believe. I was close-minded as an atheist for most of my life, however, and I have no problem admitting that.


How did you have a close mind?


I refused to even hear anything that differed from my opinion (big bang + evolution). I eventually shifted away from atheism on my own and became a deist. Then I went to church, went through a Christian phase, then went back to deism. At this point, I believe in God but still say that the big bang happened and that evolution and natural selection got life to where it is now.

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There are closed minded and open minded people on both sides of the equation. This is one of the idea’s that bothers me to no end. The thought that there really are only too camps:

Camp A : Science Minded, those who use only logic and critically think about things.
Camp B : Religious Minded, those who disregard logic and blindly accept what they are told.

It’s a classification system that I have run into on almost every site that debates things as deeply conflicted as religion and science. The problem is that these are not the only groups out there:

Camp C : You also have those who are “Science Minded” in that they blindly accept everything told to them in school without bothering to do any sort of research. This group has a tenancy to simply puppet information that they heard in school, something that becomes increasingly evident as they grow older and the perception of reality by the standards of the Scientific Community change, while they continue to spout idea’s that have long since been debunked or are far too outdated.

Camp D : Then you have Deists who spend the time to research and analyze there belief system, finding facts both for and against it and weighing them against on another. This group has a tenancy to take in conflicting facts and either rationalize them along side there own personal beliefs or take them into consideration for changing there belief system.

What’s sad is that I personally know people from all of these groups:

Camp A : Gplex, you seem to fall into this category.
Camp B : Sadly enough, my best friend fits this almost to the letter.
Camp C : A girl in my English class named Sam fit into this category and it irked me to death the foolish things she would say on an almost daily basis.
Camp D : My brother most definitely fits into this column.


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The King of MVC wrote: There are closed minded and open minded people on both sides of the equation. This is one of the idea’s that bothers me to no end. The thought that there really are only two camps:

Camp A : Science Minded, those who use only logic and critically think about things.
Camp B : Religious Minded, those who disregard logic and blindly accept what they are told.

It’s a classification system that I have run into on almost every site that debates things as deeply conflicted as religion and science. The problem is that these are not the only groups out there:

Camp C : You also have those who are “Science Minded” in that they blindly accept everything told to them in school without bothering to do any sort of research. This group has a tendancy to simply puppet information that they heard in school, something that becomes increasingly evident as they grow older and the perception of reality by the standards of the Scientific Community change, while they continue to spout idea’s that have long since been debunked or are far too outdated.

Camp D : Then you have Deists who spend the time to research and analyze there belief system, finding facts both for and against it and weighing them against on another. This group has a tenancy to take in conflicting facts and either rationalize them along side there own personal beliefs or take them into consideration for changing there belief system.

What’s sad is that I personally know people from all of these groups:

Camp A : Gplex, you seem to fall into this category.
Camp B : Sadly enough, my best friend fits this almost to the letter.
Camp C : A girl in my English class named Sam fit into this category and it irked me to death the foolish things she would say on an almost daily basis.
Camp D : My brother most definitely fits into this column.


Somehow you avoided what camp you yourself are in...


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riptorn311 wrote:

The King of MVC wrote: There are closed minded and open minded people on both sides of the equation. This is one of the idea’s that bothers me to no end. The thought that there really are only two camps:

Camp A : Science Minded, those who use only logic and critically think about things.
Camp B : Religious Minded, those who disregard logic and blindly accept what they are told.

It’s a classification system that I have run into on almost every site that debates things as deeply conflicted as religion and science. The problem is that these are not the only groups out there:

Camp C : You also have those who are “Science Minded” in that they blindly accept everything told to them in school without bothering to do any sort of research. This group has a tendancy to simply puppet information that they heard in school, something that becomes increasingly evident as they grow older and the perception of reality by the standards of the Scientific Community change, while they continue to spout idea’s that have long since been debunked or are far too outdated.

Camp D : Then you have Deists who spend the time to research and analyze there belief system, finding facts both for and against it and weighing them against on another. This group has a tenancy to take in conflicting facts and either rationalize them along side there own personal beliefs or take them into consideration for changing there belief system.

What’s sad is that I personally know people from all of these groups:

Camp A : Gplex, you seem to fall into this category.
Camp B : Sadly enough, my best friend fits this almost to the letter.
Camp C : A girl in my English class named Sam fit into this category and it irked me to death the foolish things she would say on an almost daily basis.
Camp D : My brother most definitely fits into this column.


Somehow you avoided what camp you yourself are in...


I don’t presume to know what camp I qualify for, would much rather allow others to decide that for me based on how I behave.


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what would you consider an open mind gplex?(just curios)
i listen to everyone’s beliefs and try everything before criticizing
i think that’s being open minded


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