for those of you who do not have a religious belief, how do you rationalize your consciousness, or so called 'free will'? if there’s no spirit, how can you justify saying “I get to make my own decisions”?
these faggots right below are subatomic particles. I personally am of the belief that these little guys have a so called 'free will', which is actually just random chaos, but to the observer it would seem has some form of order. I think that we are actually NOT in control of our actions, and everything we do, think, say, is chaos. But, because we are able to observe it, we put our label on it - Order - and make it easy for us to accept.
Cid wrote:
You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews
But to tack onto this - if there’s one thing I have never heard an atheist logically rationalize, it’s why there is an existance of conscious and discerning freewill.
Additionally - who’s to rationalize the existance of a form of order in the universe, simply by stating chance and accident are to blame.
Ironic. They say order comes from chaos, and yet you can take all the explosives in the world and set them off and all you’ll get from that big bang is destruction and more chaos.
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But to tack onto this - if there’s one thing I have never heard an atheist logically rationalize, it’s why there is an existance of conscious and discerning freewill.
A lot of atheists don’t believe in free will, especially on here. I think watermelon man does, but apart from that I haven’t heard of many others.
James Falcon wrote:
Additionally - who’s to rationalize the existance of a form of order in the universe, simply by stating chance and accident are to blame.
Supernovas, meteor strikes, planets smashing into each other, global warming, killer viruses, serial killers, hurricanes, rapists, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, avalanches, armed robbery, war, genocide, terrorism, child slavery... doesn’t sound all that ordered to me.
James Falcon wrote:
Ironic. They say order comes from chaos, and yet you can take all the explosives in the world and set them off and all you’ll get from that big bang is destruction and more chaos.
Do you understand that an expansion of a singularity that was the primordial universe which took hundreds of thousands of years later for things like planets to form is completely different from blowing up modern explosive weapons on Earth? Can you grasp that?
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Last edited 25 May 2009 06:57 am by Shaun of the Living
I know if a exact copy of me was put in the exact same situations over and over without previous knowledge of the other copys, it.. I would do the same thing every time.. is that free will?
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Cid wrote:
You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews
k, i’ve got to go now
