MikeUN wrote:
the thing is that I think that probably is a superior being to us.
There is no such thing as superiority as a general quality. Who is to say what’s superior and what’s inferior? God? To do that he would have to have authority. Who gave God his authority? Himself? Then he has no more authority than man.
MikeUN wrote:
But, it is not the buisness of that being to bring peace.
Humans are the responsibles no one else.
Bullshit. If God created us, and we are evil, then it is God’s fault, not ours.
If a man makes a car and it is faulty, is it the car’s fault or the carmakers?
MikeUN wrote:
The wars and lack of peace is our problem. No one has to solve the problems of others and less when we have the power to decide.
God has the power to solve all of the world’s problems with the wave of a hand, and therefore, the fact that he doesn’t intervene makes him responsible. If a judge let a serial killer go free and he went on and killed 30 people, would that judge not bear some responsibility for his actions? Yes, he would. So if God exists, he is the biggest murderer of all.
MikeUN wrote:
The number you gave is large for a human yea.
Complex no.
Human does not know what is real complex.
Define large. Define complex. If I cannot call something complex, how can you say the universe is? It’s a subjective judgement. The universe could be incredibly simple from a certain point of view, that would mean your assumption that it must have intelligence behind it would be rendered invalid.
MikeUN wrote:
the thing is that I think that probably is a superior being to us.
There is no such thing as superiority as a general quality. Who is to say what’s superior and what’s inferior? God? To do that he would have to have authority. Who gave God his authority? Himself? Then he has no more authority than man.
MikeUN wrote:
But, it is not the buisness of that being to bring peace.
Humans are the responsibles no one else.
Bullshit. If God created us, and we are evil, then it is God’s fault, not ours.
If a man makes a car and it is faulty, is it the car’s fault or the carmakers?
MikeUN wrote:
The wars and lack of peace is our problem. No one has to solve the problems of others and less when we have the power to decide.
God has the power to solve all of the world’s problems with the wave of a hand, and therefore, the fact that he doesn’t intervene makes him responsible. If a judge let a serial killer go free and he went on and killed 30 people, would that judge not bear some responsibility for his actions? Yes, he would. So if God exists, he is the biggest murderer of all.
MikeUN wrote:
The number you gave is large for a human yea.
Complex no.
Human does not know what is real complex.
Define large. Define complex. If I cannot call something complex, how can you say the universe is? It’s a subjective judgement. The universe could be incredibly simple from a certain point of view, that would mean your assumption that it must have intelligence behind it would be rendered invalid.
If you do something wrong is not the fault of someone else you can not blame others for your actions.
Anyway it actually is useless to try to find the answer as I told you we are going to die some day and we will never find a real answer.
Even top tiers of science end feeling silly and like babies. The comment that they have no idea how can universe exist and the laught.
Beliving or not is not going to change the result.
MikeUN wrote:
If you do something wrong is not the fault of someone else you can not blame others for your actions.
Well, if you knew about real psychology and didn’t believe all of this 'free will' bullshit, then yes, you would see that we are not responsible for our own actions because our behaviour is caused by environment, genetics, hormones and social interaction, among other things.
MikeUN wrote:
Anyway it actually is useless to try to find the answer as I told you we are going to die some day and we will never find a real answer.
We have SO many answers to some of life’s “greatest” questions right in front of our face, but people continue to deny them because they want a more comfortable truth.
MikeUN wrote:
Beliving or not is not going to change the result.
I know, but I have logic on my side. You do not.
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Last edited 06 Nov 2009 06:20 pm by Shaun of the Living
Well I think superiority physically and mentally would constitute as being a better being in those catagories, as far as meaning anything more to the universe, that of course is subjective. But there are pros and cons to every species in the cosmos I’m sure
Indalecio wrote:
Well I think superiority physically and mentally would constitute as being a better being in those catagories, as far as meaning anything more to the universe, that of course is subjective. But there are pros and cons to every species in the cosmos I’m sure
Superior at what? Superior at being killed? Superior at having low intelligence? Superior at not reproducing? < — You cannot objectively call these qualities any less important that IQ or physical strength, which is what I’m getting at. Although you CAN say “This species is better at (insert particular field here)"
Indalecio wrote:
Well I think superiority physically and mentally would constitute as being a better being in those catagories, as far as meaning anything more to the universe, that of course is subjective. But there are pros and cons to every species in the cosmos I’m sure
Superior at what? Superior at being killed? Superior at having low intelligence? Superior at not reproducing? < — You cannot objectively call these qualities any less important that IQ or physical strength, which is what I’m getting at. Although you CAN say “This species is better at (insert particular field here)“
I actually said physically and mentality on the first sentence because I knew you were going to say that. True, you can’t say something is a superior species because it’s stronger. I was talking practical use of being superior.
If I am weaker, slower, can’t take a hit as well as, and not as skilled as, and not as smart as some one, I would be considered inferior(In those fields of course. Assuming smartness meant Book smarts or something)
But yeah, Superiority is technically an objective case since we can’t say one quality is better than the other.
Hell, a social example is if you’re famous you have a bunch of fans who love you, but you don’t get privacy at all really.
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