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Now every time I start quoting from the bible to prove its bullshit, someone comes along and says...

LionFranky wrote:

Gplex wrote: There are alot of stupid rules in the bible...


There are only stupid misinterpretation.



Biblical Contradictions

Typical response from a christian if we point out anything that stupid like:
Matthew 5:29-30:[29]And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. [30]And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

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venomx wrote: Jesus was given to extreme uses of language. Students of literary devices call this “hyperbole." It’s an exagerration used to make a point.

For example:
Luke 14:26:If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

I think that we can all agree that Jesus isn’t suggesting that we hate our own families. Instead, He’s making the point that you have to love Him more and (more importantly) be willing to cut off ties to your own family in order to follow Him completely. In some cases around the world, that is the case.


When I see something like this, my bullshit radar goes crazy. This is stupid, he clearly says you can not be his disciple if you dont hate all that he pointed out.


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Yay!


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lol thats great


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Ok... nice job. keep going...

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heh, this i actually have a response for. just know, when you respond, then i respond to that, by that time, i’ll be about ready to bale out. its just, with this one...i can’t resist.

http://www.ex-atheist.com/Learning%20To%20Think%20Spiritually.html

“It occurred to me that I had been reading the Bible with the mind of a scientist when it was written to be read by the mind of a poet. In science, we aim to be explicit. We try to state directly what we mean so that what we have to say will be uniform in interpretation. Conversely, much of the reading and writing of poetry takes place between the lines and not within the lines. Much of what is written in poetry is implied and relies upon the subjective experience of both its author and reader in order to relay its truth.

Now, I am no stranger to poetry and I enjoy reading it. When Lovelace wrote 'to Althea from prison', “Stone walls do not a prison make, nor iron bars a cage," I would never have become indignant and accused Lovelace of not making sense. Logically, stone walls do make a prison, and iron bars certainly do make a cage! If you break this statement down into its components, it won’t make any sense. But I knew what he meant. He was saying that even though one can be confined to a cell, one can be free in their mind. You have to examine the writing within the context of what you know to be true about human nature in order to understand it. This is why logic alone is an insufficient tool by which to examine the human condition and that is what the Bible is all about."

and, annother random note...i find people who try to disprove the bible with noah hilarious. God stopping the sun in the sky for a battle is one thing, jesus raising someone from the dead, your still with us, jesus multiplying food from no where to feed thousands, ok, still makes sense, but hey! there wasn’t enough room on that boat! thats not right! like, THATS where the bible lost you. all the other stuff made sense, but that, that was just ridiculous!


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A ) People assume the humans that wrote these were perfect.

B ) People assume it wasn’t altered at some points throughout history.

C ) People assume it is literal all the time.

There are multiple interpretations of the Bible.

Why someone would pull out their eyes or cut off their hand is beyond me. I mean, what, we can’t just stop using them for such actions?

And the rest of those verses about hating can be interpreted as you have much to sacrifice in becoming Jesus' disciple (his disciples were those that followed him around), mainly because he mentions later how kings should sit down and gauge their resources before they declare war in an analogy.

Yeah, I’d love to see the literalistic people go read some poetry. They’d probably have a field day.

Oh, and I love how people who use parts of the Bible to point out BS or something only use the parts that fully support their claim, not the surrounding verses that may/may not completely take down what they said.

Oh, and watermelon man, grow up.


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RageOverdose wrote: A ) People assume the humans that wrote these were perfect.

B ) People assume it wasn’t altered at some points throughout history.

C ) People assume it is literal all the time.

There are multiple interpretations of the Bible.

Why someone would pull out their eyes or cut off their hand is beyond me. I mean, what, we can’t just stop using them for such actions?

And the rest of those verses about hating can be interpreted as you have much to sacrifice in becoming Jesus' disciple (his disciples were those that followed him around), mainly because he mentions later how kings should sit down and gauge their resources before they declare war in an analogy.

Yeah, I’d love to see the literalistic people go read some poetry. They’d probably have a field day.

Oh, and I love how people who use parts of the Bible to point out BS or something only use the parts that fully support their claim, not the surrounding verses that may/may not completely take down what they said.

Oh, and watermelon man, grow up.


Thats true I mean certain things are obviously metaphorical. I mean, especially since the kjv was written in a poetic form.

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Personally i think Gplex is a good debator but i disagree with almost every single last one of his points


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Astro Boy X wrote: Personally i think Gplex is a good debator but i disagree with almost every single last one of his points



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29If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell. — Matthew 5:29-30

What’s the big deal? It makes sense. It means that if you are doing something that causes you to stumble, get away from it.
I don’t think it was meant to be taken literally.

Last edited 01 Nov 2008 03:37 pm by Braise
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