People often say that because something happened bad and unfair that god MADE it happen and hes a killer and other things of such short. But i believe humans bring ourselves most of our own grief and have brought sin into the world ourselves. Some people say well god could have stopped that thing from happening but think when you do something wrong god never stops you either WHY because that would just make us robots doing w/e he makes us do but he loves to have relationship with us and that means we choose him because there is no relationship without choice. Also just because god works his good out of tragedy doesnt mean he orchestrated the tragedy.
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Astro wrote:
People often say that because something happened bad and unfair that god MADE it happen and hes a killer and other things of such short. But i believe humans bring ourselves most of our own grief and have brought sin into the world ourselves. Some people say well god could have stopped that thing from happening but think when you do something wrong god never stops you either WHY because that would just make us robots doing w/e he makes us do but he loves to have relationship with us and that means we choose him because there is no relationship without choice. Also just because god works his good out of tragedy doesnt mean he orchestrated the tragedy.
Why would God let there be a possibility for being sinful anyway? You can give free will to a creature and not give them the ability to go sin. If God knows everything and loved Adam and Eve and knew they would rebel, Why even try to test them with that? That’s bad logic on God’s fault. It would be his fault man sinned.
God does not stop me from doing wrong because he isn’t there to stop me.
Why is it that tragedy cannot be credited to God? Why must all good be the result of him but yet the bad he is exempt? All the evil stuff in the world, assuming God exists, is because he allows it to happen.
Good argument well for ur first point god gave them a chance to sin like i said because of giving us free will even though he knew u where gonna mess up, how would u like it if u asked for something from someone and they said no ur just gonna mess it up anyway most people would say I DIDNT EVEN GIVE ME A CHANCE so god decided to give people i chance. for ur second point i disagree. for your third point i do think god does make some bad things happen for discipline but not ALL things nor did i say ALL good things come from him
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Astro wrote:
Good argument well for ur first point god gave them a chance to sin like i said because of giving us free will even though he knew u where gonna mess up, how would u like it if u asked for something from someone and they said no ur just gonna mess it up anyway most people would say I DIDNT EVEN GIVE ME A CHANCE so god decided to give people i chance. for ur second point i disagree. for your third point i do think god does make some bad things happen for discipline but not ALL things nor did i say ALL good things come from him
He wouldn’t need to tell any one they would mess it up. He could have just let them live in the Garden of Eden as unsinful creatures and never ever created the tree of knowledge of good and evil(Which is another thing, they didn’t know what they were doing was evil until after they did the act.) So it’s just odd he would even create the chance in the first place, because he didn’t have to inform them of anything.
Why is it you disagree? If I had said “Allah, the god of the Muslims does not stop me because he isn’t there” would you disagree then?
For discipline? What kind of discipline comes from flooding the earth or having people destroy your town? They don’t even have the chance to live and improve their lives and learn from their mistakes. That is not discipline.
Anyone who has read the bible knows it was written by someone who was very bad at making up stories.
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Cid wrote:
You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews
If he made them unsiful creatures thats the same thing as taking away there will the thing they want to do
Of course i would disagree im not a muslim
And there are plenty of chances to choose god and do wats right tht they had and they didnt listen and they where making the world SO wicked that god decided to end them
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Gplex wrote:
Anyone who has read the bible knows it was written by someone who was very bad at making up stories.
And even if the bible was made up (which i dont believe it is) the people would actually be good at making stories since they have most of the world believing it lol
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Astro wrote:
If he made them unsiful creatures thats the same thing as taking away there will the thing they want to do
Of course i wouldnt disagree im not a muslim
And there are plenty of chances to choose god and do wats right tht they had and they didnt listen and they where making the world SO wicked that god decided to end them
No it wouldn’t. It would be like not making it possible to go to hell and no suffering would have entered the world EVER. There would have never been any wickedness. No Death. No sickness. No Hell. Only good things. Yet God allowed all this stuff to enter the world. A all loving all merciful God would let all this stuff in to the world just because two people who had no concept of right or wrong listened to a talking snake?
They had no concept of good and evil because sin had not entered the world, therefor no concept of evil, and with no evil there is nothing to compare what is right to, therefor no good.
sigh, you’re not getting it are you? There was no EVIL in the world at all, therefor they did not know what evil was, and if they did not know what evil was, they would not know what good was.
Lol i see wat ur saying but look wether they know wat evil was or not god told them not to do something so they shouldnt have done it wether they thought it was ok or w/e GOD told them not to do it regardless of wat they knew
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