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So if your parents told you to do a something, but didn’t tell you exactly how they wanted it done, it would be okay if they kicked you out of the house for doing it wrong?


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that has nothing to do with anything. there was nothing to tell how he wanted it done all he said was “Dont eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge” and they did it there was nothing to it


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Astro wrote: that has nothing to do with anything. there was nothing to tell how he wanted it done all he said was “Dont eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge” and they did it there was nothing to it


You obviously don’t get the analogy.

God punished them when they didn’t know what they were doing was bad to God. Sure God told them but the snake told them a different story. Interesting how the snake could lie before sin huh?

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Lol the snake didnt lie BEFORE sin the snake was satan who sinned a long time b4 in heaven when he left god and took 1 third of the angles with him first off second off they did kno wat they where doing was bad to god BECAUSE HE TOLD THEM NOT TO DO IT lol


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Astro wrote: Lol the snake didnt lie BEFORE sin the snake was satan who sinned a long time b4 in heaven when he left god and took 1 third of the angles with him first off second off they did kno wat they where doing was bad to god BECAUSE HE TOLD THEM NOT TO DO IT lol


How were they to know God was telling the truth or lying? Also the Bible disagrees. Genesis says a cunning beast of the fields. Not Satan.

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omg ur kidding me right? first thing wat do u mean how do they kno if god was lying or telling the truth hes god hes perfect and they know that better than anyone else cause they interacted with him secondly when the said the cunning beast of the feild they where reffering to the animal as snakes are cunning obviously snakes cant talk


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Astro wrote: omg ur kidding me right? first thing wat do u mean how do they kno if god was lying or telling the truth hes god hes perfect and they know that better than anyone else cause they interacted with him secondly when the said the cunning beast of the feild they where reffering to the animal as snakes are cunning obviously snakes cant talk


Just because he is God doesn’t mean he is perfect. Also just because they interacted with him does not mean God is telling the truth. Have you ever interacted with a liar?

Also it’s not my fault the bible says snakes talk. Is it?

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Lol ur a funny guy anyway i didnt say he was telling the truth because they interacted i said he was telling the truth because hes perfect as the bible states and the bible doesnt say snakes talk it was satan disguised as a snake and anyway who listens to a snake over god ANYWAY


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Astro wrote: Lol ur a funny guy anyway i didnt say he was telling the truth because they interacted i said he was telling the truth because hes perfect as the bible states and the bible doesnt say snakes talk it was satan disguised as a snake and anyway who listens to a snake over god ANYWAY


The Bible also says bats are birds, when they are actually mammals. Also show me in Genesis where it says the snake is Satan in disguise, and apperently Adam and Eve do.

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exactly the fact that adam and eve believed a snake over god the person who they know created them makes the sinner enough


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Astro wrote: exactly the fact that adam and eve believed a snake over god the person who they know created them makes the sinner enough


So what? They dtill didn’t know what they were doing was evil.

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LOL OK SO UR SAYING EVEN THOUGH GOD!!!! PERFECT, CREATOR, ALL MIGHTY TOLD THEM NOT TO DO SOMETHING BUT YET THEY DIDNT KNO IT WAS WRONG?


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First of all, God is not proven to be perfect, I don’t know why you are believing the Bible on that one. Allah is also said to be perfect. Do you believe that?

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Astro wrote: People often say that because something happened bad and unfair that god MADE it happen and hes a killer and other things of such short. But i believe humans bring ourselves most of our own grief and have brought sin into the world ourselves. Some people say well god could have stopped that thing from happening but think when you do something wrong god never stops you either WHY because that would just make us robots doing w/e he makes us do but he loves to have relationship with us and that means we choose him because there is no relationship without choice. Also just because god works his good out of tragedy doesnt mean he orchestrated the tragedy.



Astro, I dont know how old you are but you are very wise. Your post is right on the mark. God bless you.


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Stop asking me questions u already kno the answers to of course i dont think allahs perfect im not a muslim so i dont even think allah exsist but the bible says gods perfect and atm where arguing over the bible so im refrencing to that


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My point is, you don’t believe anything in a book that is a religion, just the religion you were raised with. Am I right?

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Astro wrote: Stop asking me questions u already kno the answers to of course i dont think allahs perfect im not a muslim so i dont even think allah exsist but the bible says gods perfect and atm where arguing over the bible so im refrencing to that



Astro, let the ignorant be ignorant, if he doesnt want to believe there is nothing you can say to convince him. He is not interested in the truth, just interested in pointless arguing.


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No not because i was raised with it i used to question the bible and christianity as a kid


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And how did you come to the answers you are at now?

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