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[Quote] #101
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I shift from agnostic to (barely) Christian.

So I’ll just say agnostic.


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Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote: Thats the problem, all my beliefs, are independent of athiesm.
It just seems to me that it is a word to put a bunch of people together, that the church doesn’t like.



Well, atheism (on it’s own) is pretty broad, and I’m fairly certain you don’t believe in a God, no?


define god.



Better yet, you define God.
Not to be mean at all, but when it comes to the definition of God, there are obviously a lot. So it makes sense, to me anyways, to use your definition of what you see a “god” as and whether you believe such a concept actually exists or not. (I define fairies as such and such but it doesn’t mean I believe in them to be real, for example)


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Gplex wrote:

jomas the grunt wrote:

Gplex wrote: Thats the problem, all my beliefs, are independent of athiesm.
It just seems to me that it is a word to put a bunch of people together, that the church doesn’t like.


humans put other humans into groups gplex
it has been done so since the dawn of man, whenever that may be
it isn’t any religions or non-religious fault it is just the way humanity is
but if you feel you don’t belong in the athiest section, then boo should take you out


Slavery has been done since the dawn of man kind too, doesn’t mean I have to accept it.


well i didn’t mean that
i meant it wasn’t necessary to say “the church doesn’t like”


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Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote: Thats the problem, all my beliefs, are independent of athiesm.
It just seems to me that it is a word to put a bunch of people together, that the church doesn’t like.


Do you beleive in a higher power? Some people dont consider that God.


I have never seen any evidence for magic.


I never said anything about magic.

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Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote: Thats the problem, all my beliefs, are independent of athiesm.
It just seems to me that it is a word to put a bunch of people together, that the church doesn’t like.



Well, atheism (on it’s own) is pretty broad, and I’m fairly certain you don’t believe in a God, no?


define god.



Better yet, you define God.
Not to be mean at all, but when it comes to the definition of God, there are obviously a lot. So it makes sense, to me anyways, to use your definition of what you see a “god” as and whether you believe such a concept actually exists or not. (I define fairies as such and such but it doesn’t mean I believe in them to be real, for example)


I have many ideas, of what a god would be like, ideas that I have thought about for the last 10 years.
A all powerfull being can not exist.
I could see myself giving the lable “god” to a powerful being such as the blue nake guy of watchmen.


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firewolf81 wrote: buddhist


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King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote: Thats the problem, all my beliefs, are independent of athiesm.
It just seems to me that it is a word to put a bunch of people together, that the church doesn’t like.


Do you beleive in a higher power? Some people dont consider that God.


I have never seen any evidence for magic.


I never said anything about magic.


A higher power suggest a supernatural force. Thats is magic.


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Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote: Thats the problem, all my beliefs, are independent of athiesm.
It just seems to me that it is a word to put a bunch of people together, that the church doesn’t like.



Well, atheism (on it’s own) is pretty broad, and I’m fairly certain you don’t believe in a God, no?


define god.



Better yet, you define God.
Not to be mean at all, but when it comes to the definition of God, there are obviously a lot. So it makes sense, to me anyways, to use your definition of what you see a “god” as and whether you believe such a concept actually exists or not. (I define fairies as such and such but it doesn’t mean I believe in them to be real, for example)


I have many ideas, of what a god would be like, ideas that I have thought about for the last 10 years.
A all powerfull being can not exist.
I could see myself giving the lable “god” to a powerful being such as the blue nake guy of watchmen.



Not necessarily what God would be like, but what you first define God as when you hear/read the word. Like, first definition off the tip of your tongue.


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Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote: Thats the problem, all my beliefs, are independent of athiesm.
It just seems to me that it is a word to put a bunch of people together, that the church doesn’t like.



Well, atheism (on it’s own) is pretty broad, and I’m fairly certain you don’t believe in a God, no?


define god.



Better yet, you define God.
Not to be mean at all, but when it comes to the definition of God, there are obviously a lot. So it makes sense, to me anyways, to use your definition of what you see a “god” as and whether you believe such a concept actually exists or not. (I define fairies as such and such but it doesn’t mean I believe in them to be real, for example)


I have many ideas, of what a god would be like, ideas that I have thought about for the last 10 years.
A all powerfull being can not exist.
I could see myself giving the lable “god” to a powerful being such as the blue nake guy of watchmen.


Want me to give you my idea?

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King Boo wrote:

firewolf81 wrote: buddhist


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oh for odins sake!
you add him but not me! what do you have against me!


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Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Not necessarily what God would be like, but what you first define God as when you hear/read the word. Like, first definition off the tip of your tongue.


Power. Is the first think I think of... God mode, second..


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Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Not necessarily what God would be like, but what you first define God as when you hear/read the word. Like, first definition off the tip of your tongue.


Power. Is the first think I think of... God mode, second..


XD


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Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Not necessarily what God would be like, but what you first define God as when you hear/read the word. Like, first definition off the tip of your tongue.


Power. Is the first think I think of... God mode, second..


Here:

I beleive that there is a God for sure, through some deep philosophical thought, but I beleive that it is neiter good or bad, and i is completely neutral and is the basis and reason for all reality. Its existence is nothing that our finit minds can comprehend, and itself has an infinite existence, it has existed for infinity, and has embodied the universe for eternity. It is the source of our unexplainable minds, and other unexplainable phenomonons such as gravity, it has simply set the rules and properties of math and science, and gives reason to reality. I have thought long about God and this is what makes most sense, and reality just existing the way it is for no reason or source is just to astract, so here is what you should look into.

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i hate king boo >.<


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Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Not necessarily what God would be like, but what you first define God as when you hear/read the word. Like, first definition off the tip of your tongue.


Power. Is the first think I think of... God mode, second..



Uhm...lol, well, to take things to the outer limits, do you believe in an extra-dimensional/universal power that created our universe in some way or another?
If you answer no, you are probably an atheist. If you answer yes, likely a deist.


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jomas the grunt wrote: i hate king boo >.<


The ancient norse beleif is considered mythology, this is not what mythology you beleive in.

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King Boo wrote: Here:

I beleive that there is a God for sure, through some deep philosophical thought, but I beleive that it is neiter good or bad, and i is completely neutral and is the basis and reason for all reality. Its existence is nothing that our finit minds can comprehend, and itself has an infinite existence, it has existed for infinity, and has embodied the universe for eternity. It is the source of our unexplainable minds, and other unexplainable phenomonons such as gravity, it has simply set the rules and properties of math and science, and gives reason to reality. I have thought long about God and this is what makes most sense, and reality just existing the way it is for no reason or source is just to astract, so here is what you should look into.


But we know infinitly powerful being can not exist. It creates a paradox, everytime this being trys to restrict something it does..
eg. Does this being have to follow the laws of logic.. if no, then it can view evil as good, good as good.. and if yes, then it cant be all powerfull... understand?


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Question, has anyone else thought of the idea that Humans could be counted as Gods?


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Kagrenac wrote: Question, has anyone else thought of the idea that Humans could be counted as Gods?


If you compare us to other creatures you could.


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Kagrenac wrote: Question, has anyone else thought of the idea that Humans could be counted as Gods?



Yeah, that’s right up there with magic, or even other alien species compared to our own. We could see them as Gods with a shitload of magic when it really is just hyper-advanced technology. (Believe it was, what, Clarke’s Law or something that said that? Unsure of name)


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