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Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Not necessarily what God would be like, but what you first define God as when you hear/read the word. Like, first definition off the tip of your tongue.

Power. Is the first think I think of... God mode, second..

Uhm...lol, well, to take things to the outer limits, do you believe in an extra-dimensional/universal power that created our universe in some way or another?
If you answer no, you are probably an atheist. If you answer yes, likely a deist.

I believe in other dimensions, only cos the maths points to this fact. We know our universe wasnt created.. its as silly as saying the water in my cup was design to fit in my cup... its silly.

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Here:

I beleive that there is a God for sure, through some deep philosophical thought, but I beleive that it is neiter good or bad, and i is completely neutral and is the basis and reason for all reality. Its existence is nothing that our finit minds can comprehend, and itself has an infinite existence, it has existed for infinity, and has embodied the universe for eternity. It is the source of our unexplainable minds, and other unexplainable phenomonons such as gravity, it has simply set the rules and properties of math and science, and gives reason to reality. I have thought long about God and this is what makes most sense, and reality just existing the way it is for no reason or source is just to astract, so here is what you should look into.

But we know infinitly powerful being can not exist. It creates a paradox, everytime this being trys to restrict something it does..
eg. Does this being have to follow the laws of logic.. if no, then it can view evil as good, good as good.. and if yes, then it cant be all powerfull... understand?

Did I say all powerful. And I dont think of IT as in the sense of a being.

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Not necessarily what God would be like, but what you first define God as when you hear/read the word. Like, first definition off the tip of your tongue.

Power. Is the first think I think of... God mode, second..

Uhm...lol, well, to take things to the outer limits, do you believe in an extra-dimensional/universal power that created our universe in some way or another?
If you answer no, you are probably an atheist. If you answer yes, likely a deist.

I believe in other dimensions, only cos the maths points to this fact. We know our universe wasnt created.. its as silly as saying the water in my cup was design to fit in my cup... its silly.

Well the big bang started from somewhere. (I know hypotheses about two other universes having collided and created our own)
Either way, that discussion aside, I’d have to say you’re an atheist if anything.

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Here:

I beleive that there is a God for sure, through some deep philosophical thought, but I beleive that it is neiter good or bad, and i is completely neutral and is the basis and reason for all reality. Its existence is nothing that our finit minds can comprehend, and itself has an infinite existence, it has existed for infinity, and has embodied the universe for eternity. It is the source of our unexplainable minds, and other unexplainable phenomonons such as gravity, it has simply set the rules and properties of math and science, and gives reason to reality. I have thought long about God and this is what makes most sense, and reality just existing the way it is for no reason or source is just to astract, so here is what you should look into.

But we know infinitly powerful being can not exist. It creates a paradox, everytime this being trys to restrict something it does..
eg. Does this being have to follow the laws of logic.. if no, then it can view evil as good, good as good.. and if yes, then it cant be all powerfull... understand?

Did I say all powerful. And I dont think of IT as in the sense of a being.

Well if its hasnt got infinite power, then it is finite, and understandable..
Please stop using god of the gaps arguments.. don’t wish to go down that road.

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

I mean, our ability to create and manipulate the environment around us. I know other animals can as well but not even close to the degree humans can.

Also, genetics. We can change or create life.

I am, Forever Gone.

“I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds”

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Here:

I beleive that there is a God for sure, through some deep philosophical thought, but I beleive that it is neiter good or bad, and i is completely neutral and is the basis and reason for all reality. Its existence is nothing that our finit minds can comprehend, and itself has an infinite existence, it has existed for infinity, and has embodied the universe for eternity. It is the source of our unexplainable minds, and other unexplainable phenomonons such as gravity, it has simply set the rules and properties of math and science, and gives reason to reality. I have thought long about God and this is what makes most sense, and reality just existing the way it is for no reason or source is just to astract, so here is what you should look into.

But we know infinitly powerful being can not exist. It creates a paradox, everytime this being trys to restrict something it does..
eg. Does this being have to follow the laws of logic.. if no, then it can view evil as good, good as good.. and if yes, then it cant be all powerfull... understand?

Did I say all powerful. And I dont think of IT as in the sense of a being.

Well if its hasnt got infinite power, then it is finite, and understandable..
Please stop using god of the gaps arguments.. don’t wish to go down that road.

God of the gaps? I think its MIND is infinite, and it really never created anything like in creationism, God has set things the way they are, and is the reason for the laws of reality.

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Not necessarily what God would be like, but what you first define God as when you hear/read the word. Like, first definition off the tip of your tongue.

Power. Is the first think I think of... God mode, second..

Uhm...lol, well, to take things to the outer limits, do you believe in an extra-dimensional/universal power that created our universe in some way or another?
If you answer no, you are probably an atheist. If you answer yes, likely a deist.

I believe in other dimensions, only cos the maths points to this fact. We know our universe wasnt created.. its as silly as saying the water in my cup was design to fit in my cup... its silly.

Well the big bang started from somewhere. (I know hypotheses about two other universes having collided and created our own)
Either way, that discussion aside, I’d have to say you’re an atheist if anything.

So god of the gaps? yes? because we currently dont know “god did it”. Sorry this reasoning has failed for over 2000 years!
If you wish to put me in a group base on a idea, that I do not accept, then isnt that as arbitrary, as just saying Im human?

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Here:

I beleive that there is a God for sure, through some deep philosophical thought, but I beleive that it is neiter good or bad, and i is completely neutral and is the basis and reason for all reality. Its existence is nothing that our finit minds can comprehend, and itself has an infinite existence, it has existed for infinity, and has embodied the universe for eternity. It is the source of our unexplainable minds, and other unexplainable phenomonons such as gravity, it has simply set the rules and properties of math and science, and gives reason to reality. I have thought long about God and this is what makes most sense, and reality just existing the way it is for no reason or source is just to astract, so here is what you should look into.

But we know infinitly powerful being can not exist. It creates a paradox, everytime this being trys to restrict something it does..
eg. Does this being have to follow the laws of logic.. if no, then it can view evil as good, good as good.. and if yes, then it cant be all powerfull... understand?

Did I say all powerful. And I dont think of IT as in the sense of a being.

Well if its hasnt got infinite power, then it is finite, and understandable..
Please stop using god of the gaps arguments.. don’t wish to go down that road.

God of the gaps? I think its MIND is infinite, and it really never created anything like in creationism, God has set things the way they are, and is the reason for the laws of reality.

So now its infinite again.. please make up your mind.
Yes god of the gap arguments, are use like this.

We do not know how X works, so god did it.

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Here:

I beleive that there is a God for sure, through some deep philosophical thought, but I beleive that it is neiter good or bad, and i is completely neutral and is the basis and reason for all reality. Its existence is nothing that our finit minds can comprehend, and itself has an infinite existence, it has existed for infinity, and has embodied the universe for eternity. It is the source of our unexplainable minds, and other unexplainable phenomonons such as gravity, it has simply set the rules and properties of math and science, and gives reason to reality. I have thought long about God and this is what makes most sense, and reality just existing the way it is for no reason or source is just to astract, so here is what you should look into.

But we know infinitly powerful being can not exist. It creates a paradox, everytime this being trys to restrict something it does..
eg. Does this being have to follow the laws of logic.. if no, then it can view evil as good, good as good.. and if yes, then it cant be all powerfull... understand?

Did I say all powerful. And I dont think of IT as in the sense of a being.

Well if its hasnt got infinite power, then it is finite, and understandable..
Please stop using god of the gaps arguments.. don’t wish to go down that road.

God of the gaps? I think its MIND is infinite, and it really never created anything like in creationism, God has set things the way they are, and is the reason for the laws of reality.

So now itas infinite again.. please make up your mind.
Yes god of the gap arguments, are use like this.

We do not know how X works, so god did it.

Religion was an early example of a scientific way to explain the Universe, no?

“Sir, why does the sky sparkle at night?"

“It is the Gods looking back at us."

I am, Forever Gone.

“I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds”

Kagrenac wrote: I mean, our ability to create and manipulate the environment around us. I know other animals can as well but not even close to the degree humans can.

Also, genetics. We can change or create life.

I supose, if you think that way.. but you have to consider humans as a superorganism, and not individuals if you do...

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

Kagrenac wrote: Religion was an early example of a scientific way to explain the Universe, no?

“Sir, why does the sky sparkle at night?"

“It is the Gods looking back at us.“

Well thats the logical conclusion. Its a failed science.

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: Here:

I beleive that there is a God for sure, through some deep philosophical thought, but I beleive that it is neiter good or bad, and i is completely neutral and is the basis and reason for all reality. Its existence is nothing that our finit minds can comprehend, and itself has an infinite existence, it has existed for infinity, and has embodied the universe for eternity. It is the source of our unexplainable minds, and other unexplainable phenomonons such as gravity, it has simply set the rules and properties of math and science, and gives reason to reality. I have thought long about God and this is what makes most sense, and reality just existing the way it is for no reason or source is just to astract, so here is what you should look into.

But we know infinitly powerful being can not exist. It creates a paradox, everytime this being trys to restrict something it does..
eg. Does this being have to follow the laws of logic.. if no, then it can view evil as good, good as good.. and if yes, then it cant be all powerfull... understand?

Did I say all powerful. And I dont think of IT as in the sense of a being.

Well if its hasnt got infinite power, then it is finite, and understandable..
Please stop using god of the gaps arguments.. don’t wish to go down that road.

God of the gaps? I think its MIND is infinite, and it really never created anything like in creationism, God has set things the way they are, and is the reason for the laws of reality.

So now its infinite again.. please make up your mind.
Yes god of the gap arguments, are use like this.

We do not know how X works, so god did it.

No, it is not infinite, infinite mind, no limits to what it knows because it is everything.

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Not necessarily what God would be like, but what you first define God as when you hear/read the word. Like, first definition off the tip of your tongue.

Power. Is the first think I think of... God mode, second..

Uhm...lol, well, to take things to the outer limits, do you believe in an extra-dimensional/universal power that created our universe in some way or another?
If you answer no, you are probably an atheist. If you answer yes, likely a deist.

I believe in other dimensions, only cos the maths points to this fact. We know our universe wasnt created.. its as silly as saying the water in my cup was design to fit in my cup... its silly.

Well the big bang started from somewhere. (I know hypotheses about two other universes having collided and created our own)
Either way, that discussion aside, I’d have to say you’re an atheist if anything.

So god of the gaps? yes? because we currently dont know “god did it”. Sorry this reasoning has failed for over 2000 years!
If you wish to put me in a group base on a idea, that I do not accept, then isnt that as arbitrary, as just saying Im human?

What? No, I’m simply talking about that definition of a God; a being/beings who - at least helped in doing so - created our universe in some way, the method of which isn’t specified. The only thing I’m specifying is that it created our universe to some degree in some way.
And I’m trying to make the idea as general as possible as I believe that’s the goal. I could say it as simple as “do you believe in god, yes or no?" but I doubt that would help.

EDIT: Okay, maybe it is, in a way, the “god of gaps”, though I was more aiming for the general “do you believe a higher being helped to, or did, create our universe?"

King Boo wrote: No, it is not infinite, infinite mind, no limits to what it knows because it is everything.

Wait so the universe and any other universe is god? Im god?

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote: So god of the gaps? yes? because we currently dont know “god did it”. Sorry this reasoning has failed for over 2000 years!
If you wish to put me in a group base on a idea, that I do not accept, then isnt that as arbitrary, as just saying Im human?

What? No, I’m simply talking about that definition of a God; a being/beings who - at least helped in doing so - created our universe in some way, the method of which isn’t specified. The only thing I’m specifying is that it created our universe to some degree in some way.
And I’m trying to make the idea as general as possible as I believe that’s the goal. I could say it as simple as “do you believe in god, yes or no?" but I doubt that would help.

How do you know it wasnt fairys that created the universe? Lets face it, we can take anything and put it in place. I could even claim I created the universe, and it would just as valid as the fairys.
Thats the problem, take boo for example, is definition of god, is the universe.. When you ask me a quesiton like that, its about as useful as saying do you “believe in a X”, yes or no.

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

Gplex wrote:

Kagrenac wrote: Religion was an early example of a scientific way to explain the Universe, no?

“Sir, why does the sky sparkle at night?"

“It is the Gods looking back at us.“

Well thats the logical conclusion. Its a failed science.

A lot of things are failed science, like when people believed the Earth was flat. Humans go by what they know, and at one point, thousands of years ago when very little of the world was understood, it was easy to say “It just is.".

Then one day someone sat down and thought, “If it is, then someone must have made it so.". Naturally, the idea of a god had formed.

Now, things that were once explained by through God are explained with real facts.

My point is, religion and science share a history together, it’s just Religion ended up not being forgotten. People understood the idea of a God could be used as a way to control people.

I am, Forever Gone.

“I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds”

Last monday i created the universe just for you, complete with memories of your life up to that point....
Dont believe this idea? Then you are a athiplexist. See how annoying that is?

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote: So god of the gaps? yes? because we currently dont know “god did it”. Sorry this reasoning has failed for over 2000 years!
If you wish to put me in a group base on a idea, that I do not accept, then isnt that as arbitrary, as just saying Im human?

What? No, I’m simply talking about that definition of a God; a being/beings who - at least helped in doing so - created our universe in some way, the method of which isn’t specified. The only thing I’m specifying is that it created our universe to some degree in some way.
And I’m trying to make the idea as general as possible as I believe that’s the goal. I could say it as simple as “do you believe in god, yes or no?" but I doubt that would help.

How do you know it wasnt fairys that created the universe? Lets face it, we can take anything and put it in place. I could even claim I created the universe, and it would just as valid as the fairys.
Thats the problem, take boo for example, is definition of god, is the universe.. When you ask me a quesiton like that, its about as useful as saying do you “believe in a X”, yes or no.

Why I said being/beings. Maybe someone can call them fairies. Hell, maybe the ant crawling across my desk made the universe, I have no idea, it’s too abstract of a thing, which is why I was never specific past that it helped in making the universe to some degree.

I’m trying to make it a general, easy question to answer. That’s why I could basically say “do you believe in god, yes or no?", because (I would hope anyway) you can infer your own definition of a god and tell whether you believe in it or not. No explanation necessary, just something general. (It’s not like you can be right or wrong anyway)

Though, if needed, I suppose there could be an “undecided” category as well, and save the gorram trouble.

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote: How do you know it wasnt fairys that created the universe? Lets face it, we can take anything and put it in place. I could even claim I created the universe, and it would just as valid as the fairys.
Thats the problem, take boo for example, is definition of god, is the universe.. When you ask me a quesiton like that, its about as useful as saying do you “believe in a X”, yes or no.

Why I said being/beings. Maybe someone can call them fairies. Hell, maybe the ant crawling across my desk made the universe, I have no idea, it’s too abstract of a thing, which is why I was never specific past that it helped in making the universe to some degree.

I’m trying to make it a general, easy question to answer. That’s why I could basically say “do you believe in god, yes or no?", because (I would hope anyway) you can infer your own definition of a god and tell whether you believe in it or not. No explanation necessary, just something general. (It’s not like you can be right or wrong anyway)

Though, if needed, I suppose there could be an “undecided” category as well, and save the gorram trouble.

Yes I believe there must be powerful beings out there.. we are 150,000 years into our evolution, and changing faster each generations.
The probablity of a intelligent species having a billion year head start on us is quiet good.

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

addd me to the athiest

this shit sick