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Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: No, it is not infinite, infinite mind, no limits to what it knows because it is everything.


Wait so the universe and any other universe is god? Im god?


It is the laws of reality, reality itself. Not like you can really get a mental picture of what God really IS, its to much of an abstract figure, although religions like Christianity have atempted this and failed epicly. A finite human mind has limits while God has none, im not saying it can do anything, it doesnt CREATE things, do you understand what im saying?


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King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: No, it is not infinite, infinite mind, no limits to what it knows because it is everything.


Wait so the universe and any other universe is god? Im god?


It is the laws of reality, reality itself. Not like you can really get a mental picture of what God really IS, its to much of an abstract figure, although religions like Christianity have atempted this and failed epicly. A finite human mind has limits while God has none, im not saying it can do anything, it doesnt CREATE things, do you understand what im saying?


Oh so somehow I cant not understand, but you can.. Again we come back to a infinite paradox.


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Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote: How do you know it wasnt fairys that created the universe? Lets face it, we can take anything and put it in place. I could even claim I created the universe, and it would just as valid as the fairys.
Thats the problem, take boo for example, is definition of god, is the universe.. When you ask me a quesiton like that, its about as useful as saying do you “believe in a X”, yes or no.



Why I said being/beings. Maybe someone can call them fairies. Hell, maybe the ant crawling across my desk made the universe, I have no idea, it’s too abstract of a thing, which is why I was never specific past that it helped in making the universe to some degree.

I’m trying to make it a general, easy question to answer. That’s why I could basically say “do you believe in god, yes or no?", because (I would hope anyway) you can infer your own definition of a god and tell whether you believe in it or not. No explanation necessary, just something general. (It’s not like you can be right or wrong anyway)

Though, if needed, I suppose there could be an “undecided” category as well, and save the gorram trouble.


Yes I believe there must be powerful beings out there.. we are 150,000 years into our evolution, and changing faster each generations.
The probablity of a intelligent species having a billion year head start on us is quiet good.



Okay, but do you think a higher intelligent race of some sort and number created our universe?

(P.S. I agree with the higher species thing)


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Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: No, it is not infinite, infinite mind, no limits to what it knows because it is everything.


Wait so the universe and any other universe is god? Im god?


It is the laws of reality, reality itself. Not like you can really get a mental picture of what God really IS, its to much of an abstract figure, although religions like Christianity have atempted this and failed epicly. A finite human mind has limits while God has none, im not saying it can do anything, it doesnt CREATE things, do you understand what im saying?


Oh so somehow I cant not understand, but you can.. Again we come back to a infinite paradox.


I know the infinite paradox, and no it doesnt apply, your thinking of omnipotence.

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Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Okay, but do you think a higher intelligent race of some sort and number created our universe?

(P.S. I agree with the higher species thing)


Maybe, its a possibility, we can not rule out. But this is just guess work.. What if it was us humans who sent a “super atom” back in time, and created our own universe?
The fact is we can not know, just yet. So it is best to admit we do not know, and look for ways to figure out what happened.


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King Boo wrote: I know the infinite paradox, and no it doesnt apply, your thinking of omnipotence.


A being with a infinite mind would know the pass present and future, would not be bound by time, space or matter. Would always know how to obtain more power.
To me, this sounds like a infinitly powerful being.


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Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Okay, but do you think a higher intelligent race of some sort and number created our universe?

(P.S. I agree with the higher species thing)


Maybe, its a possibility, we can not rule out. But this is just guess work.. What if it was us humans who sent a “super atom” back in time, and created our own universe?
The fact is we can not know, just yet. So it is best to admit we do not know, and look for ways to figure out what happened.



Well, in said case, if you had to be labelled any of the ones there, it’d probably be agnostic. (seems like anyway)

Though, to just settle it, @kingboo, just create a new category called “undecided” and put gplex in there. I bet there are others around to fit in that one.

EDIT: Found something on Ignosticism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignosticism May be interesting read.


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Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: I know the infinite paradox, and no it doesnt apply, your thinking of omnipotence.


A being with a infinite mind would know the pass present and future, would not be bound by time, space or matter. Would always know how to obtain more power.
To me, this sounds like a infinitly powerful being.


I dont think you understand what I meant, and I would know because I know that this doesn’t apply.

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Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Okay, but do you think a higher intelligent race of some sort and number created our universe?

(P.S. I agree with the higher species thing)


Maybe, its a possibility, we can not rule out. But this is just guess work.. What if it was us humans who sent a “super atom” back in time, and created our own universe?
The fact is we can not know, just yet. So it is best to admit we do not know, and look for ways to figure out what happened.



Well, in said case, if you had to be labelled any of the ones there, it’d probably be agnostic. (seems like anyway)

Though, to just settle it, @kingboo, just create a new category called “undecided” and put gplex in there. I bet there are others around to fit in that one.


Well Im just glad Im one of the few people who cant convince himself that something is true.


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King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: I know the infinite paradox, and no it doesnt apply, your thinking of omnipotence.


A being with a infinite mind would know the pass present and future, would not be bound by time, space or matter. Would always know how to obtain more power.
To me, this sounds like a infinitly powerful being.


I dont think you understand what I meant, and I would know because I know that this doesn’t apply.


I know, thats exactly why I want to know what you mean.


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Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Okay, but do you think a higher intelligent race of some sort and number created our universe?

(P.S. I agree with the higher species thing)


Maybe, its a possibility, we can not rule out. But this is just guess work.. What if it was us humans who sent a “super atom” back in time, and created our own universe?
The fact is we can not know, just yet. So it is best to admit we do not know, and look for ways to figure out what happened.



Well, in said case, if you had to be labelled any of the ones there, it’d probably be agnostic. (seems like anyway)

Though, to just settle it, @kingboo, just create a new category called “undecided” and put gplex in there. I bet there are others around to fit in that one.


Well Im just glad Im one of the few people who cant convince himself that something is true.



Read edit too, might find it kind of interesting I think.


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Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: I know the infinite paradox, and no it doesnt apply, your thinking of omnipotence.


A being with a infinite mind would know the pass present and future, would not be bound by time, space or matter. Would always know how to obtain more power.
To me, this sounds like a infinitly powerful being.


I dont think you understand what I meant, and I would know because I know that this doesn’t apply.


I know, thats exactly why I want to know what you mean.


What do you want to know, ask me a more specific question because the whole thing is to broad to just explain in one post.

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Also, before I decide to “disappear” from the topic:
Kingboo, I’m still not under deist, y’daft mate.


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Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Okay, but do you think a higher intelligent race of some sort and number created our universe?

(P.S. I agree with the higher species thing)


Maybe, its a possibility, we can not rule out. But this is just guess work.. What if it was us humans who sent a “super atom” back in time, and created our own universe?
The fact is we can not know, just yet. So it is best to admit we do not know, and look for ways to figure out what happened.



Well, in said case, if you had to be labelled any of the ones there, it’d probably be agnostic. (seems like anyway)

Though, to just settle it, @kingboo, just create a new category called “undecided” and put gplex in there. I bet there are others around to fit in that one.


Well Im just glad Im one of the few people who cant convince himself that something is true.



Read edit too, might find it kind of interesting I think.


yea, that is intresting.. what I want to know is, who gets to make these new labels up.


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King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: I know the infinite paradox, and no it doesnt apply, your thinking of omnipotence.


A being with a infinite mind would know the pass present and future, would not be bound by time, space or matter. Would always know how to obtain more power.
To me, this sounds like a infinitly powerful being.


I dont think you understand what I meant, and I would know because I know that this doesn’t apply.


I know, thats exactly why I want to know what you mean.


What do you want to know, ask me a more specific question because the whole thing is to broad to just explain in one post.


Oh come on tell the truth.. “I can’t be bothered”.


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Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Tyreaus Dreacon wrote: Okay, but do you think a higher intelligent race of some sort and number created our universe?

(P.S. I agree with the higher species thing)


Maybe, its a possibility, we can not rule out. But this is just guess work.. What if it was us humans who sent a “super atom” back in time, and created our own universe?
The fact is we can not know, just yet. So it is best to admit we do not know, and look for ways to figure out what happened.



Well, in said case, if you had to be labelled any of the ones there, it’d probably be agnostic. (seems like anyway)

Though, to just settle it, @kingboo, just create a new category called “undecided” and put gplex in there. I bet there are others around to fit in that one.


Well Im just glad Im one of the few people who cant convince himself that something is true.



Read edit too, might find it kind of interesting I think.


yea, that is intresting.. what I want to know is, who gets to make these new labels up.



I...you know, I really have to wonder. It’s right up there with the new vocabulary that’s going around with kids nowadays. Things I cannot understand are being used so widespread, it’s impossible to tell where it even started from. o.O Let alone what the hell they mean.


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Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote:

Gplex wrote:

King Boo wrote: I know the infinite paradox, and no it doesnt apply, your thinking of omnipotence.


A being with a infinite mind would know the pass present and future, would not be bound by time, space or matter. Would always know how to obtain more power.
To me, this sounds like a infinitly powerful being.


I dont think you understand what I meant, and I would know because I know that this doesn’t apply.


I know, thats exactly why I want to know what you mean.


What do you want to know, ask me a more specific question because the whole thing is to broad to just explain in one post.


Oh come on tell the truth.. “I can’t be bothered”.


Huh?

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