Damn, video won’t work. Anyway, in Matthew 12:31-32 Jesus states,
“Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come”
Forsaken Corpse wrote:
i dont believe in an afterlife, im atheist. the idea of what happens after death for atheists is rotting in the ground.
According to Atheists, couldn’t an element making up a corpse be absorbed by a living animal and recycled to produce new offspring?
Oh, and by the way, I would like to point out that although Ecclesiastes 9:5 states the dead are unconcious, verses in luke seem to suggest a dead man remembered he had five brothers. Also, throughout the bible it speaks that the sinners will be cast into a lake of fire...
Christianity leaves me confused.
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Last edited 19 Jan 2008 02:24 am by Shaun of the Living
I was as Atheist as anyone you could care to mention - before something happened - something connected to my former life that ended up in me being tortured for a few hours, when your facing pain and death it might be too late, I think everyone has a chance to redeem themselves - just don’t wait too long - doing it when your on the cusp of being dragged to a very real (non-demoninational) Hell, it is REAL hard to drag yourself back out - this is coming from a former complete Atheist btw...I’m not preaching too much as I know how ridicululous it must sound...
Cid wrote:
I believe that good people go to heaven. Not just christians.
But that’s not what the “good book” says.
Um...
I think it does o.0
Jesus say it.
Is maybe the church who use more the terms heaven and hell, Jesus only say if you dreess the poor, get to eat the hunger, get water to the thirsty, in other words being good to others you find salvation. he never talk only christian get salvation, he use the good Samaritan tale to explain that.
Heaven and Hell are in the Earth probably, if you are in peace with your soul and yourself, you are save, but if your soul is trouble then your life is hell, and the main message o Jesus was love. with love you are save.
You left out a whole bunch of stuff needed to be done as well to recieve eternal life....
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Ill Be Bach wrote:
I am Jewish, and I think that the Christian idea of Jews, and other religeons going to hell is a load of bullshit.
No offence but many religions have the same belief. Its not just Christians. And not all Christians believe Jews for some unknown reason go to hell. Why would the choosen people go to hell.
pola wrote:
B/c they were the original followers of god way back in the day and other stuff that should prob be told by a Jew.
Of course they were the original followers, they made the fucking religion up to begin with and nobody else heard of it until hundreds of years later. That’s why it says they’re God’s chosen people, because they made it up and wanted to believe they were the chosen ones, even though every other culture believes the same thing about themselves.
How can you blame other cultures for not accepting Jehovah when;
A: There was (and still is) no more evidence for Jehovah than any other God like Ra, Zeus or the Rainbow Serpent.
and B: God didn’t send any prophets to other cultures to tell them the word of the “one true God”.
Even if not knowing or accepting about Jehovah was somehow every other culture’s fault, how would that entitle every Jew to be blessed by God just because their ANCESTORS were Jewish? They didn’t earn his blessing, their ancestors did. Along with original Sin, God seems to judge people by sins and achievements they had no control over.
pola wrote:
B/c they were the original followers of god way back in the day and other stuff that should prob be told by a Jew.
Of course they were the original followers, they made the fucking religion up to begin with and nobody else heard of it until hundreds of years later. That’s why it says they’re God’s chosen people, because they made it up and wanted to believe they were the chosen ones, even though every other culture believes the same thing about themselves.
How can you blame other cultures for not accepting Jehovah when;
A: There was (and still is) no more evidence for Jehovah than any other God like Ra, Zeus or the Rainbow Serpent.
and B: God didn’t send any prophets to other cultures to tell them the word of the “one true God”.
Even if not knowing or accepting about Jehovah was somehow every other culture’s fault, how would that entitle every Jew to be blessed by God just because their ANCESTORS were Jewish? They didn’t earn his blessing, their ancestors did. Along with original Sin, God seems to judge people by sins and achievements they had no control over.
PWNAGE
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pola wrote:
B/c they were the original followers of god way back in the day and other stuff that should prob be told by a Jew.
Of course they were the original followers, they made the fucking religion up to begin with and nobody else heard of it until hundreds of years later. That’s why it says they’re God’s chosen people, because they made it up and wanted to believe they were the chosen ones, even though every other culture believes the same thing about themselves.
How can you blame other cultures for not accepting Jehovah when;
A: There was (and still is) no more evidence for Jehovah than any other God like Ra, Zeus or the Rainbow Serpent.
and B: God didn’t send any prophets to other cultures to tell them the word of the “one true God”.
Even if not knowing or accepting about Jehovah was somehow every other culture’s fault, how would that entitle every Jew to be blessed by God just because their ANCESTORS were Jewish? They didn’t earn his blessing, their ancestors did. Along with original Sin, God seems to judge people by sins and achievements they had no control over.
Wow way to flame the kid said ask a jew. That there should tell you that he clearly doesnt know the whole story so ask someone else.
pola wrote:
B/c they were the original followers of god way back in the day and other stuff that should prob be told by a Jew.
Of course they were the original followers, they made the fucking religion up to begin with and nobody else heard of it until hundreds of years later. That’s why it says they’re God’s chosen people, because they made it up and wanted to believe they were the chosen ones, even though every other culture believes the same thing about themselves.
How can you blame other cultures for not accepting Jehovah when;
A: There was (and still is) no more evidence for Jehovah than any other God like Ra, Zeus or the Rainbow Serpent.
and B: God didn’t send any prophets to other cultures to tell them the word of the “one true God”.
Even if not knowing or accepting about Jehovah was somehow every other culture’s fault, how would that entitle every Jew to be blessed by God just because their ANCESTORS were Jewish? They didn’t earn his blessing, their ancestors did. Along with original Sin, God seems to judge people by sins and achievements they had no control over.
Wow way to flame the kid said ask a jew. That there should tell you that he clearly doesnt know the whole story so ask someone else.
How is it flaming? All I’m doing is replying to his statement that Jews should be considered God’s “chosen people” because they were the original followers. It has nothing to do with him implying that a Jewish person would give me a better answer. I don’t know any Jews, anyway.
Dream of the Endless wrote:
asdhjd doesn’t seem to know what he/she is talking about.
And why is that. B/c he posted a full 3 paragraphs to a guy who basicly said he didnt know the stroy so ask someone with more knolege on the subject. I dont know how you debate but i however dont type 3 paragraphs with some bashing to prove someone wrong who basicly openly said they dont know.