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23 Aug 2009 05:07 pm
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Ok so, I’m getting a little annoyed from people in real life that try to convert me to their religion by saying something like this (this is an actual argument that’s been used against me):

I prayed that our church would make a lot of money from the benefit he had. My church made a lot of money, that proves prayer works

I’m sure some of you have come across people who like to use prayer arguments. At the time I didn’t know what to say to that person because I was baffled at his ignorance. But just to help you guys out who this may happen to in the future, here is the “regression fallacy”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_fallacy

remember kids, logic is your friend


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ramunematt wrote: I prayed that our church would make a lot of money from the benefit he had. My church made a lot of money, that proves prayer works


I don’t use that argument because it could very easily backfire if God decides I’m being stupid.


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Red_Calibur9 wrote:

ramunematt wrote: I prayed that our church would make a lot of money from the benefit he had. My church made a lot of money, that proves prayer works


I don’t use that argument because it could very easily backfire if God decides I’m being stupid.


Or the milk bottle might get angery at you.


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23 Aug 2009 08:14 pm
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ramunematt wrote: Ok so, I’m getting a little annoyed from people in real life that try to convert me to their religion by saying something like this (this is an actual argument that’s been used against me):

I prayed that our church would make a lot of money from the benefit he had. My church made a lot of money, that proves prayer works

I’m sure some of you have come across people who like to use prayer arguments. At the time I didn’t know what to say to that person because I was baffled at his ignorance. But just to help you guys out who this may happen to in the future, here is the “regression fallacy”.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_fallacy[/url]

remember kids, logic is your friend




How the hell are people allways trying to convert you. I have never ran into people who try and convert me. Unless your talking about the people that walk around handing out pamplets. Just dont respond to them.

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Gplex wrote:

Red_Calibur9 wrote:

ramunematt wrote: I prayed that our church would make a lot of money from the benefit he had. My church made a lot of money, that proves prayer works


I don’t use that argument because it could very easily backfire if God decides I’m being stupid.


Or the milk bottle might get angery at you.



I just wasted 9 minutes of my life. Curse you!


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pola wrote: How the hell are people allways trying to convert you. I have never ran into people who try and convert me. Unless your talking about the people that walk around handing out pamplets.


Not everyone has the same life experiences you do.

pola wrote: Just dont respond to them.


I debate and discuss things with them. You’ll never know if what they say is worth your time if you don’t listen and consider it think before you believe what other people tell you when your money or freedom is possibly at risk.

Hell, I sat in the Catholic church yesterday during a service just because I wanted to see what it would be like. I didn’t argue with anyone in there, that would have been rude, but I enjoyed the singin, but I felt a bit embarrased when everyone said prayers and hymns and I had no idea what to say, though. The sermons were really boring. And I was expecting to be given actual bread and wine, not just some cheap ass wafer wih a plus symbol on it.


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Antisocial wrote:

Gplex wrote:

Red_Calibur9 wrote:

ramunematt wrote: I prayed that our church would make a lot of money from the benefit he had. My church made a lot of money, that proves prayer works


I don’t use that argument because it could very easily backfire if God decides I’m being stupid.


Or the milk bottle might get angery at you.


I just wasted 9 minutes of my life. Curse you!


Guess you didnt watch the video..


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dont listen to them then, damn.

is it that hard?


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Modena wrote: dont listen to them then, damn.

is it that hard?


Like a catholic priest erection!


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The MASK wrote:

Modena wrote: dont listen to them then, damn.

is it that hard?


Like a catholic priest erection!


why?
why not just wave them off like “watever”?


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Modena wrote:

The MASK wrote:

Modena wrote: dont listen to them then, damn.

is it that hard?


Like a catholic priest erection!


why?
why not just wave them off like “watever”?


They influence society.


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Shaun of the Living wrote:

Modena wrote:

The MASK wrote:

Modena wrote: dont listen to them then, damn.

is it that hard?


Like a catholic priest erection!


why?
why not just wave them off like “watever”?


They influence society.


Oh well
So what?
tough Titty.

suck it up and move on.
If your an Atheist move on and don’t listen or even talk to “fools” or the ignorant. as long you are right. right?


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Modena wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

Modena wrote:

The MASK wrote:

Modena wrote: dont listen to them then, damn.

is it that hard?


Like a catholic priest erection!


why?
why not just wave them off like “watever”?


They influence society.


Oh well
So what?
tough Titty.

suck it up and move on.
If your an Atheist move on and don’t listen or even talk to “fools” or the ignorant. as long you are right. right?


You obviously have not been shunned at school for being a non-believer. But... That makes Christianity seem more like a cult.


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Beelzeboss wrote:

Modena wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

Modena wrote:

The MASK wrote:

Modena wrote: dont listen to them then, damn.

is it that hard?


Like a catholic priest erection!


why?
why not just wave them off like “watever”?


They influence society.


Oh well
So what?
tough Titty.

suck it up and move on.
If your an Atheist move on and don’t listen or even talk to “fools” or the ignorant. as long you are right. right?


You obviously have not been shunned at school for being a non-believer. But... That makes Christianity seem more like a cult.


your being shunned by fools, ignorance, ans generalization.
sound like high school to me

dont be a pussy


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Modena wrote:

The MASK wrote:

Modena wrote: dont listen to them then, damn.

is it that hard?


Like a catholic priest erection!


why?
why not just wave them off like “watever”?


LMMFAO!!! Right over the head!!!


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Modena wrote:

Beelzeboss wrote:

Modena wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

Modena wrote:

The MASK wrote:

Modena wrote: dont listen to them then, damn.

is it that hard?


Like a catholic priest erection!


why?
why not just wave them off like “watever”?


They influence society.


Oh well
So what?
tough Titty.

suck it up and move on.
If your an Atheist move on and don’t listen or even talk to “fools” or the ignorant. as long you are right. right?


You obviously have not been shunned at school for being a non-believer. But... That makes Christianity seem more like a cult.


your being shunned by fools, ignorance, ans generalization.
sound like high school to me

dont be a pussy


Ummmm... K.


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riptorn311 wrote:

Modena wrote:

The MASK wrote:

Modena wrote: dont listen to them then, damn.

is it that hard?


Like a catholic priest erection!


why?
why not just wave them off like “watever”?


LMMFAO!!! Right over the head!!!


???


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I’m laughing at mask’s joke that clearly went over your head by your response...


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Modena wrote:

Shaun of the Living wrote:

Modena wrote:

The MASK wrote:

Modena wrote: dont listen to them then, damn.

is it that hard?


Like a catholic priest erection!


why?
why not just wave them off like “watever”?


They influence society.


Oh well
So what?
tough Titty.

suck it up and move on.
If your an Atheist move on and don’t listen or even talk to “fools” or the ignorant. as long you are right. right?



I’m not forcing anyone to give up there beliefs here, I’m offering my opinion on their opinion. And if someone tries to tell me something that’s bullshit I’ll point out that it’s bullshit.

It’s ironic you use the word “fool” as if every Atheist thinks Christians are stupid, because the Bible says “The fool hath said in his heart there is no God”...

When the Bible does it, I don’t hear anyone complaining.


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Shaun of the Living wrote:

pola wrote: How the hell are people allways trying to convert you. I have never ran into people who try and convert me. Unless your talking about the people that walk around handing out pamplets.


Not everyone has the same life experiences you do.

pola wrote: Just dont respond to them.


I debate and discuss things with them. You’ll never know if what they say is worth your time if you don’t listen and consider it think before you believe what other people tell you when your money or freedom is possibly at risk.

Hell, I sat in the Catholic church yesterday during a service just because I wanted to see what it would be like. I didn’t argue with anyone in there, that would have been rude, but I enjoyed the singin, but I felt a bit embarrased when everyone said prayers and hymns and I had no idea what to say, though. The sermons were really boring. And I was expecting to be given actual bread and wine, not just some cheap ass wafer wih a plus symbol on it.


the catholics are the most tolerable amongst christians in my opinion...at least they don’t preach hate

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