Question for theist about atheists

What do you think is an atheist’s best weapon again theism?

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ramunematt wrote: What do you think is an atheist’s best weapon again theism?

Stubbornness.

Stubbornness? Explain.

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ramunematt wrote: Stubbornness? Explain.

Is someone is stubborn enough, you can’t convince them of anything, no matter how much proof/evidence you throw at them.

Yea no matter how much I tell those religious nuts, you know the fundamentalists, they always are stubborn to the truth. Definetly a good tactic.

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ramunematt wrote: Stubbornness? Explain.

Is someone is stubborn enough, you can’t convince them of anything, no matter how much proof/evidence you throw at them.

I have looked at the evidence for god or any of the Bible’s stories, and none of them are legit. They either don’t make any sense or contradict science, that’s why you can’t convince me of them. As a “scientist” I am open to new ideas, but I need evidence.

Fundamentalists on the other hand...

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As ive said before, there is no way to prove or disprove gods existence. Just throwing that out there.

Most of us already know that.

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weapon against theist? u mean convince them that God doesnt exist?
*thinks*
i dont know. if i did i probably wouldnt be a theist right now.

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POW wrote: weapon against theist? u mean convince them that God doesnt exist?
*thinks*
i dont know. if i did i probably wouldnt be a theist right now.

No, I mean against your religion.

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fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote: As ive said before, there is no way to prove or disprove gods existence. Just throwing that out there.

What I’ve always wonder people always use that as a reasoning. But if there’s nothing to prove or disprove the existence of a god then where did the concept of a god come if there is no way you can even justify some kinda feature that would represent this creature. Wouldn’t that mean that some kinda human interaction have to occure to create this idea of a god as there is nothing else to support it anywhere in the world to give anyone that knowledge.

Matt you should like that. maybe create a topic on that haha.

Zucas wrote:

fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote: As ive said before, there is no way to prove or disprove gods existence. Just throwing that out there.

What I’ve always wonder people always use that as a reasoning. But if there’s nothing to prove or disprove the existence of a god then where did the concept of a god come if there is no way you can even justify some kinda feature that would represent this creature. Wouldn’t that mean that some kinda human interaction have to occure to create this idea of a god as there is nothing else to support it anywhere in the world to give anyone that knowledge.

Matt you should like that. maybe create a topic on that haha.

Humans used deities as a way of explaining things.

This was true for all groups.

One thing atheists use that work on me is constantly trying to get me to question what I believe by pretentiously presenting science and whatnot to “disprove” my beliefs. Its as if they’re trying to get me to not believe. Then there are atheists that are apathetic to it all and could care less what I believe. They are the ones I like.

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Zucas wrote:

fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote: As ive said before, there is no way to prove or disprove gods existence. Just throwing that out there.

What I’ve always wonder people always use that as a reasoning. But if there’s nothing to prove or disprove the existence of a god then where did the concept of a god come if there is no way you can even justify some kinda feature that would represent this creature. Wouldn’t that mean that some kinda human interaction have to occure to create this idea of a god as there is nothing else to support it anywhere in the world to give anyone that knowledge.

Matt you should like that. maybe create a topic on that haha.

Humans used deities as a way of explaining things.

This was true for all groups.

One thing atheists use that work on me is constantly trying to get me to question what I believe by pretentiously presenting science and whatnot to “disprove” my beliefs. Its as if they’re trying to get me to not believe. Then there are atheists that are apathetic to it all and could care less what I believe. They are the ones I like.

Exactly you prove my point. If a diety is a manmade idea then there is no way as it can be possible right. As one most organized religions teach that the idea of a god was passed on through the god. And secondly if the explanation came from man then it is more than certainly a myth that is false cause as yall stated there is nothing to prove belief in a god as fact but as I jsut presented there is quite a bit of proof to say there isn’t one. I mean if there is nothing to prove or disprove something doesn’t that mean wouldn’t have existed until something thought of it.

ramunematt wrote:

POW wrote: weapon against theist? u mean convince them that God doesnt exist?
*thinks*
i dont know. if i did i probably wouldnt be a theist right now.

No, I mean against your religion.

sorry cant help there, i dont have religion.

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Zucas wrote:

RageOverdose wrote:

Zucas wrote:

fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote: As ive said before, there is no way to prove or disprove gods existence. Just throwing that out there.

What I’ve always wonder people always use that as a reasoning. But if there’s nothing to prove or disprove the existence of a god then where did the concept of a god come if there is no way you can even justify some kinda feature that would represent this creature. Wouldn’t that mean that some kinda human interaction have to occure to create this idea of a god as there is nothing else to support it anywhere in the world to give anyone that knowledge.

Matt you should like that. maybe create a topic on that haha.

Humans used deities as a way of explaining things.

This was true for all groups.

One thing atheists use that work on me is constantly trying to get me to question what I believe by pretentiously presenting science and whatnot to “disprove” my beliefs. Its as if they’re trying to get me to not believe. Then there are atheists that are apathetic to it all and could care less what I believe. They are the ones I like.

Exactly you prove my point. If a diety is a manmade idea then there is no way as it can be possible right. As one most organized religions teach that the idea of a god was passed on through the god. And secondly if the explanation came from man then it is more than certainly a myth that is false cause as yall stated there is nothing to prove belief in a god as fact but as I jsut presented there is quite a bit of proof to say there isn’t one. I mean if there is nothing to prove or disprove something doesn’t that mean wouldn’t have existed until something thought of it.

Same thing could be said about math. Despite having practical use in mechanics and counting (which was why it was created), it has imperfections, pi being one of them. We made math, it did not exist until we made it.

God works for me as math works for anybody. Its faith. Shoot, things could pop up that throw modern mathematics, trigonometry, physics, etc. out the window. Not that I would know what, or that it has a good chance of happening.

Perhaps Moses heard God and wrote what God commanded him to write. Perhaps he didn’t. I have faith in the former.

I don’t like these “prove/disprove” arguments because they won’t do anything but test how stubborn each participant is. Let us have faith, we’ll let you continue being scientists, even though you can have both. You can’t disprove God to those that wish to have faith and you can’t prove God to those that don’t wish to believe. At least, those who stand strong to their convictions.

BTW, the point I made about the deities was from a more neutral POV.

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I have nothing against people who stand by a convictions strongly whehter it be faith or science. Only thing I won’t stand for are people who stand by these faiths or sciences, knowing that there is facts or truths out there that can disprove them. Why people up until the 1700’s still believed everything Aristotle wrote was the truth to give one for science. Or to people who still think the world is 12,000 years old.

That is not faith in any of the sides. That is stupidity. And blindly following something all under the prentenses of brainwashing, manipulation, and ignorance.

i read something in school today. Something Albert Enstein said.

“Without Religion Science would be dull. Without Science Religion would be wrong”

or something like that...i forgot.

Zucas wrote: I have nothing against people who stand by a convictions strongly whehter it be faith or science. Only thing I won’t stand for are people who stand by these faiths or sciences, knowing that there is facts or truths out there that can disprove them. Why people up until the 1700’s still believed everything Aristotle wrote was the truth to give one for science. Or to people who still think the world is 12,000 years old.

That is not faith in any of the sides. That is stupidity. And blindly following something all under the prentenses of brainwashing, manipulation, and ignorance.

I don’t believe the earth is billions/millions of years old. But I think it LOOKS that way.

PM me for an explanation if ya like.

Demon Slayer wrote: i read something in school today. Something Albert Enstein said.

“Without Religion Science would be dull. Without Science Religion would be wrong”

or something like that...i forgot.

Hey that’s one of the quotes I keep in my userpage. Awesome.

ChaosSpartan wrote:

Zucas wrote: I have nothing against people who stand by a convictions strongly whehter it be faith or science. Only thing I won’t stand for are people who stand by these faiths or sciences, knowing that there is facts or truths out there that can disprove them. Why people up until the 1700’s still believed everything Aristotle wrote was the truth to give one for science. Or to people who still think the world is 12,000 years old.

That is not faith in any of the sides. That is stupidity. And blindly following something all under the prentenses of brainwashing, manipulation, and ignorance.

I don’t believe the earth is billions/millions of years old. But I think it LOOKS that way.

PM me for an explanation if ya like.

I’d actually like you to explain that here and now, because the scientific method clearly states that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old.

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