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ramunematt wrote:

Itachi Uchiha wrote:

ramunematt wrote:

Itachi Uchiha wrote: Ar Rahman(5)
Ar Rahman(19)(20)(21) Terusan Suez dan Panama (research this)
Ar Rahman(33)
Al Qamar(1) (ask nasa about this)


enjoy...


GLOBAL WARMING....???? Qur’an has mention that LONG TIME AGO...



Again... why is it that Muslims make a big deal out of interpretations that they say are scientific yet are so far behind in scientific advancements? We’ve known long before the Quran that global warming existed. When the Quran says how to actually SOLVE global warming then I’ll listen.



Hablum minallah = Relation with Allah
Hablum minanaas = Relation with human
and the third is Relation with the universe, nature and everything...



and this proves what exactly?



that we should act nicely to men and the world...


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papamidnite420 wrote: and i know all about ss powers and they r like the greek gods but the gold saints only have that gold armor which is givin by zeus...


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Itachi Uchiha wrote:

1indainfinite wrote: How do you refute?



refute me... if you can...


...I refute you?

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haha... you funny little guy...


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papamidnite420 wrote: and i know all about ss powers and they r like the greek gods but the gold saints only have that gold armor which is givin by zeus...

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What does refute mean, if it means pointlessly talking for no gain then you have to an art form.

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I want gplex, matt and pet refute that...


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papamidnite420 wrote: and i know all about ss powers and they r like the greek gods but the gold saints only have that gold armor which is givin by zeus...

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Itachi Uchiha wrote:

ramunematt wrote:

Itachi Uchiha wrote:

petrofsky wrote: Same here. lol

Since the beginning of science (long before the Qur’an was made) we knew the earth had cycles, like the ice age, normal age (not sure what its called), and global warming. This is not the first time we have been through global warming.



since when other religion mention about global warming...???

proof please...



They didn’t, science did. It’s been recorded for awhile before the Quran mentioned it. It should be obvious to you that all the Quran did was restate what we already knew.



proof that Qur’an following others book...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW learn in greek...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW have teacher except Allah SWT and Gabriel...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW learn about jews and christian...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW doing scientific method...

if you have one... Then PROVE IT...!!!

and proof it what sciences said about global warming before the age of Islam... please dont say that mice from clothes...



I already refuted this... have you forgotten already..
check out this webpage its quite long, but it points out all the flaws that the quran had about human embro development, and how it was a copy of the greeks, who got it wrong by the way..
http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Science/embryo.html


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proof that Qur’an following others book...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW learn in greek...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW have teacher except Allah SWT and Gabriel...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW learn about jews and christian...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW doing scientific method...

if you have one... Then PROVE IT...!!!

and proof it what sciences said about global warming before the age of Islam... please dont say that mice from clothes...

PROVE IT THAT PROPHET MUHAMMAD SAW LEARN FROM GREEK... PROVE IT THAT HE READ BOOK FROM GREEK... PROVE IT THAT HE HAVE TEACHER FROM GREEK...



That was embryo... Prophet Muhammad SAW NEVER GO TO GREEK and HE CANT READ AND WRITE...

WTF... Hey Atheist... if you want to refute then prove it then...


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papamidnite420 wrote: and i know all about ss powers and they r like the greek gods but the gold saints only have that gold armor which is givin by zeus...

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Itachi Uchiha wrote: proof that Qur�an following others book...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW learn in greek...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW have teacher except Allah SWT and Gabriel...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW learn about jews and christian...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW doing scientific method...

if you have one... Then PROVE IT...!!!

and proof it what sciences said about global warming before the age of Islam... please dont say that mice from clothes...

PROVE IT THAT PROPHET MUHAMMAD SAW LEARN FROM GREEK... PROVE IT THAT HE READ BOOK FROM GREEK... PROVE IT THAT HE HAVE TEACHER FROM GREEK...



That was embryo... Prophet Muhammad SAW NEVER GO TO GREEK and HE CANT READ AND WRITE...

WTF... Hey Atheist... if you want to refute then prove it then...



Why don’t you prove your points then?


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Itachi Uchiha wrote:

ramunematt wrote:

Itachi Uchiha wrote:

petrofsky wrote: Same here. lol

Since the beginning of science (long before the Qur’an was made) we knew the earth had cycles, like the ice age, normal age (not sure what its called), and global warming. This is not the first time we have been through global warming.



since when other religion mention about global warming...???

proof please...



They didn’t, science did. It’s been recorded for awhile before the Quran mentioned it. It should be obvious to you that all the Quran did was restate what we already knew.



proof that Qur’an following others book...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW learn in greek...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW have teacher except Allah SWT and Gabriel...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW learn about jews and christian...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW doing scientific method...

if you have one... Then PROVE IT...!!!

and proof it what sciences said about global warming before the age of Islam... please dont say that mice from clothes...



Here are a few very plausible, very easy explanations:

1. Mohammed was a liar

2. Mohammed never existed

3. The author of the Qur’an was a liar

4. The author of the Qur’an obtained knowledge through people from other countries

See how easy that was? And it didn’t have to invoke any supernatural forces. Every wonder why the “sciences” in the Qur’an were never known in the hundreds of years it was written until very recently? Think about that.


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ramunematt wrote:

Itachi Uchiha wrote:

ramunematt wrote:

Itachi Uchiha wrote:

petrofsky wrote: Same here. lol

Since the beginning of science (long before the Qur’an was made) we knew the earth had cycles, like the ice age, normal age (not sure what its called), and global warming. This is not the first time we have been through global warming.



since when other religion mention about global warming...???

proof please...



They didn’t, science did. It’s been recorded for awhile before the Quran mentioned it. It should be obvious to you that all the Quran did was restate what we already knew.



proof that Qur’an following others book...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW learn in greek...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW have teacher except Allah SWT and Gabriel...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW learn about jews and christian...
proof that Prophet Muhammad SAW doing scientific method...

if you have one... Then PROVE IT...!!!

and proof it what sciences said about global warming before the age of Islam... please dont say that mice from clothes...



Here are a few very plausible, very easy explanations:

1. Mohammed was a liar

2. Mohammed never existed

3. The author of the Qur’an was a liar

4. The author of the Qur’an obtained knowledge through people from other countries

See how easy that was? And it didn’t have to invoke any supernatural forces. Every wonder why the “sciences” in the Qur’an were never known in the hundreds of years it was written until very recently? Think about that.



1. He exist and you may go to see His letter for king herakles of rome

2. Here we go again

3. Unlike Bible who have King James Version or what ever... Qur’an were written down and never changed since the age of first Islam

4. Proof please... it was known that they were isolated...

haha...


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papamidnite420 wrote: and i know all about ss powers and they r like the greek gods but the gold saints only have that gold armor which is givin by zeus...

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Al Qamar(1) (ask NASA about this)
The Hour came near and the moon was split.


Here is the pic from NASA...



and this one...




The moon was splited as proof that Qur’an is right...

You can go on matt and plex...


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papamidnite420 wrote: and i know all about ss powers and they r like the greek gods but the gold saints only have that gold armor which is givin by zeus...

Edited 05 Jun 2008 08:00 am by Itachi Uchiha
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and oh this is the proof where The Prophet Muhammad SAW send message to King Heracles of Rome...



still saying he doesnt exist...???


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papamidnite420 wrote: and i know all about ss powers and they r like the greek gods but the gold saints only have that gold armor which is givin by zeus...

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http://images.google.co.id/imgres?imgurl=http://www.atlastours.net/jordan/prophet_letter.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bluefame.com/lofiversion/index.php/t92325.html&h=448&w=613&sz=27&hl=id&start=3&um=1&tbnid=IT4hEOqFHgj1oM:&tbnh=99&tbnw=136&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsurat%2Bmuhammad%26um%3D1%26hl%3Did%26sa%3DG

here... you may go the proof of Islam...


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papamidnite420 wrote: and i know all about ss powers and they r like the greek gods but the gold saints only have that gold armor which is givin by zeus...

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Ath Thuur(6)
and the sea where under the land are fire (volcano under the sea)

Ath Thuur(10)

Adz Dzariyaat(7)

Al Baqarah(27)

Al Baqarah(28)

Al Baqarah(60)

Al Baqarah(62)

Al Baqarah(74)

Al Baqarah(118)



Al Balad(1-20)


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papamidnite420 wrote: and i know all about ss powers and they r like the greek gods but the gold saints only have that gold armor which is givin by zeus...

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hey gplex and matt... this one for you...




enjoy... hehehe...


tounge


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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Al Qamar(1) (ask NASA about this)
The Hour came near and the moon was split.


Here is the pic from NASA...



and this one...




The moon was splited as proof that Qur’an is right...

You can go on matt and plex...



I hope you know the moon just as well as every moon have cracks in them


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Itachi Uchiha wrote: and oh this is the proof where The Prophet Muhammad SAW send message to King Heracles of Rome...



still saying he doesnt exist...???



Once again, prove Muhammad existed. If he did, prove that he could not read. I could say right now I dont know how to read but God granted me the ability to write.


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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Al Qamar(1) (ask NASA about this)
The Hour came near and the moon was split.


Here is the pic from NASA...



and this one...




The moon was splited as proof that Qur’an is right...

You can go on matt and plex...



This proves absolutely nothing. “Split” could mean anything. A half moon, eclipse, it’s position in the universe, maybe the moon is a metaphor, maybe the split is a metaphor, maybe the verse itself is a metaphor, etc.

Everything you say that is “scientific” in the Quran is nothing but wishful interpretation. You pick and choose how to interpret verses. Some you’lle interpret literally and some you’lle interpret metaphorically based on what YOU want it to say, not what it actually says.


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Edited 05 Jun 2008 03:01 pm by ramunematt
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Itachi Uchiha wrote: and oh this is the proof where The Prophet Muhammad SAW send message to King Heracles of Rome...



still saying he doesnt exist...???



Did it ever cross your mind that this could easily be somebody else claiming to be Muhammed?


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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Ath Thuur(6)
and the sea where under the land are fire (volcano under the sea)

Ath Thuur(10)

Adz Dzariyaat(7)

Al Baqarah(27)

Al Baqarah(28)

Al Baqarah(60)

Al Baqarah(62)

Al Baqarah(74)

Al Baqarah(118)



Al Balad(1-20)



Itachi... there is no fire underwater. This should be common sense.


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