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[Quote] #81
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ramunematt wrote:

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ramunematt wrote: Explain it to me now. I am so eager to hear why you think Muhammad is more credible than NASA.



This one bastard...



Nibiru... the 10th planet of our solar system...









First of all, we can see cracks on the moon with the naked eye. Even if you can’t see the cracks, it’s common sense that something as big as the moon that looked like a rock would have cracks on it just like on Earth. It’s no miracle, it’s observation. I’m tired of telling you this. Also, what makes you so sure the verse is literal?

“and it was by the hour, the moon had split” or “and the moon split, and the hour drew closer” (forgot which one)

Either verse it sounds more like a metaphorical reference to a half moon to me. One of the phases of the moon that everyone sees, it’s not that amazing.

BTW, the Sun is not a planet. It is a star. Same with the moon. It is a star, not a planet. And Pluto is no longer considered a planet. That makes eight planets. I don’t know if Nibiru is actually a planet or part of the solar system, but even if it is that makes only nine planets, falling short of the Qur’ans prediction of 11 planets.



Does size matter...???

Are you considering pulsar isnt a star...???


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22 Jun 2008 03:03 am
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http://www.gavinrymill.com/dinosaurs/new-solar-sytstem/trans-neptunian-pluto-quaoar-sedna.gif

Ehem... Ehem... Ohok...

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Itachi Uchiha Banned wrote: http://www.gavinrymill.com/dinosaurs/new-solar-sytstem/trans-neptunian-pluto-quaoar-sedna.gif

Ehem... Ehem... Ohok...



Says that the image was not found...


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[Quote] #84
22 Jun 2008 03:47 am
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I can found it afterall...

http://www.gavinrymill.com/dinosaurs/new-solar-sytstem/trans-neptunian-pluto-quaoar-sedna.gif

after .gif... delete the space first then you will be able to see it...

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Oh, I see it now.

Why did you post it?


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[Quote] #86
22 Jun 2008 04:08 am
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For ramunematt...

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Itachi Uchiha Banned wrote: For ramunematt...



Oh. To prove what to him? (I am just curious)


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Itachi Uchiha wrote:

ramunematt wrote:

Itachi Uchiha wrote:

ramunematt wrote: Explain it to me now. I am so eager to hear why you think Muhammad is more credible than NASA.



This one bastard...



Nibiru... the 10th planet of our solar system...









First of all, we can see cracks on the moon with the naked eye. Even if you can’t see the cracks, it’s common sense that something as big as the moon that looked like a rock would have cracks on it just like on Earth. It’s no miracle, it’s observation. I’m tired of telling you this. Also, what makes you so sure the verse is literal?

“and it was by the hour, the moon had split” or “and the moon split, and the hour drew closer” (forgot which one)

Either verse it sounds more like a metaphorical reference to a half moon to me. One of the phases of the moon that everyone sees, it’s not that amazing.

BTW, the Sun is not a planet. It is a star. Same with the moon. It is a star, not a planet. And Pluto is no longer considered a planet. That makes eight planets. I don’t know if Nibiru is actually a planet or part of the solar system, but even if it is that makes only nine planets, falling short of the Qur’ans prediction of 11 planets.



Does size matter...???

Are you considering pulsar isnt a star...???



Yes, size does matter to be a planet

yes, pulsars are neutron stars

Just admit it, the Quran is wrong about the number of planets. It was written by a psycho who wanted everyone who didn’t share his beliefs to suffer/die/convert. It’s not that surprising.


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Do you know how big pulsar and neutron star is...??? only a small as the moon... bastard...


Qur’an not wrong and that was josef prophecy about something...


dumbass...


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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Do you know how big pulsar and neutron star is...??? only a small as the moon... bastard...


Qur’an not wrong and that was josef prophecy about something...


dumbass...



It doesn’t matter you dumbass, it’s still a star not a planet. The Qur’an said there are 11 planets, there aren’t.

It’s wrong so you get NOTHING. You LOSE, good DAY sir!


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and



Mercury and Pluto...


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Those lines says that Yusuf brothers will kill him if Yusuf that dreams to all his brothers...


a prophecy if you want to say it...


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[Quote] #93
03 Jul 2008 10:59 pm
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I’d just like to remind you people that there are 2 kinds of people on Earth.
1. GOOD PEOPLE
2. BAD PEOPLE
People who are good will obviously have good coming to them in every aspects of life
And people who are bad, will always have bad things happening to them too.
AND IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE THIS BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF HUMAN ACHIEVMENT THEN WHATS THE POINT DEBATING & TALKING.
e.g, Ahmad had to go to the Mosque which is 3 miles far, so how would Ahmad go there?
1. Will he take 1 big jump
2. Or will he actually walk
Its just like becoming a Soldier. You can’t just become one, you’ve gotta train first.
in other words... THERES A LOT MORE THINGS HAPPENING IN THIS WORLD THAT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW.
So the best thing to do is be a good Muslim and pray to Allah for me too.

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03 Jul 2008 11:01 pm
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I’d just like to remind you people that there are 2 kinds of people on Earth.
1. GOOD PEOPLE
2. BAD PEOPLE
People who are good will obviously have good coming to them in every aspects of life
And people who are bad, will always have bad things happening to them too.
AND IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE THIS BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF HUMAN ACHIEVMENT THEN WHATS THE POINT DEBATING & TALKING.
e.g, Ahmad had to go to the Mosque which is 3 miles far, so how would Ahmad go there?
1. Will he take 1 big jump
2. Or will he actually walk
Its just like becoming a Soldier. You can’t just become one, you’ve gotta train first.
in other words... THERES A LOT MORE THINGS HAPPENING IN THIS WORLD THAT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW.
So the best thing to do is be a good Muslim and pray to Allah for me too.

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Abubakar wrote: I’d just like to remind you people that there are 2 kinds of people on Earth.
1. GOOD PEOPLE
2. BAD PEOPLE
People who are good will obviously have good coming to them in every aspects of life
And people who are bad, will always have bad things happening to them too.
AND IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE THIS BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF HUMAN ACHIEVMENT THEN WHATS THE POINT DEBATING & TALKING.
e.g, Ahmad had to go to the Mosque which is 3 miles far, so how would Ahmad go there?
1. Will he take 1 big jump
2. Or will he actually walk
Its just like becoming a Soldier. You can’t just become one, you’ve gotta train first.
in other words... THERES A LOT MORE THINGS HAPPENING IN THIS WORLD THAT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW.
So the best thing to do is be a good Muslim and pray to Allah for me too.



You fail to realize though that Good People can commit bad things and Bad people can commit good things.


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03 Jul 2008 11:07 pm
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Our teacher used to say a hadeeth of the Prophet Muhammad [s.a.w but i’ll tell you that which i remember...'small things are big in the sight of Allah'

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ramunematt wrote:

Itachi Uchiha wrote: Do you know how big pulsar and neutron star is...??? only a small as the moon... bastard...


Qur’an not wrong and that was josef prophecy about something...


dumbass...



It doesn’t matter you dumbass, it’s still a star not a planet. The Qur’an said there are 11 planets, there aren’t.

It’s wrong so you get NOTHING. You LOSE, good DAY sir!



Why do you take everything in the Quran literal when it is obviously a metaphor?

LOOK AT THE OTHER VERSES BEFORE AND AFTER IT TO JUDGE IT IN CONTEXT.

[12.4] When Joseph said to his father, 'Father, I saw eleven planets, and the sun
and the moon; I saw them prostrating themselves before me.'
[12.5] He said, 'O my son, say nothing of this vision to your brothers lest they
should cunningly plot against you indeed, satan is the clear enemy of the human,
[12.6] so your Lord will choose you and teach you the interpretation of visions,
and perfect His Favor upon you and upon the House of Jacob, as He perfected it
on your fathers Abraham and Isaac before you. Your Lord is Knowing, Wise.

The eleven planets are a metaphor for Joseph’s eleven brothers, the sun is his father and the moon is his mother. If it was literal planets, why would his brothers be envious and want to plot against him?

Read the Quran and actually know your shit before you just type in “problems with islam” on google and copy and paste the arguments you get on the webpages that come up.


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[Quote] #98
03 Jul 2008 11:48 pm
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Bismillah Hirrahmanirraheem.
In the name of Allah the Most Gracious, The most merciful.
QUESTION: WHO LOVES YOU MORE THAN YOUR PARENTS DO?
ANSWER: ALLAH
Actually you didn’t understand what i was trying to point out.
People are not Angels are they.
But we are not allowed to do bad things and thats that isn’t it Petrofsky?
YOU MIGHT HAVE FAILED TO REALIZE THAT A SIN IS ONLY WRITTEN WHEN ITS DONE INTENTIONALLY.
who cares about anything else?
So if you ask me, then i would say that the person who is good is a person who we might not get to see in our lifetime.

So if i be good then i am sure that Allah will guide me to the right path.

I HAVE A QUESTION.
IF SOMEBODY WAS SWEARING AT OUR PROPHET MUHAMMAD peace & blessings be upon him, WHAT WOULD THE CALIPHS ABUBAKR, UMR, USMAAN & ALI DO?

PLEASE REPLY

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04 Jul 2008 12:04 am
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Look just listen up, i was told once by a very clever man, “Son... give respect to everything”
and i asked “why”

1. If you don’t respect Muslims & Islam, then how would they respect you or even listen to you!

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Sean of the Living wrote:

ramunematt wrote:

Itachi Uchiha wrote: Do you know how big pulsar and neutron star is...??? only a small as the moon... bastard...


Qur’an not wrong and that was josef prophecy about something...


dumbass...



It doesn’t matter you dumbass, it’s still a star not a planet. The Qur’an said there are 11 planets, there aren’t.

It’s wrong so you get NOTHING. You LOSE, good DAY sir!



Why do you take everything in the Quran literal when it is obviously a metaphor?

LOOK AT THE OTHER VERSES BEFORE AND AFTER IT TO JUDGE IT IN CONTEXT.

[12.4] When Joseph said to his father, 'Father, I saw eleven planets, and the sun
and the moon; I saw them prostrating themselves before me.'
[12.5] He said, 'O my son, say nothing of this vision to your brothers lest they
should cunningly plot against you indeed, satan is the clear enemy of the human,
[12.6] so your Lord will choose you and teach you the interpretation of visions,
and perfect His Favor upon you and upon the House of Jacob, as He perfected it
on your fathers Abraham and Isaac before you. Your Lord is Knowing, Wise.

The eleven planets are a metaphor for Joseph’s eleven brothers, the sun is his father and the moon is his mother. If it was literal planets, why would his brothers be envious and want to plot against him?

Read the Quran and actually know your shit before you just type in “problems with islam” on google and copy and paste the arguments you get on the webpages that come up.



Then again why would someone write it with all metaphors when you don’t believe everything it says you are gonna go to hell? It only makes sense if they express it as clearly as possibly.


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