Sean of the Living wrote:
I don’t think Atheists are animals, but how is believing a diety made the universe any more pathetic than any other explanation? You’ve given no reason, just said it is. It’s not an excuse, creation IS the explanation and it seems more sensible to me that some intelligent made the universe than nothing triggered the expansion of the first singularity.
Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, something which Itachi does not understand.
At first, religion was a good idea, but it was the people who ran it and followed it that fucked it up.
How can you prove that creation is the answer? The story is extremely far fetched. Darwin’s evolution theory is alot more reasonable and contains physical proof.
I think creation is a more resonable explanation to the beginning of the universe, the laws of physics et cetera, not necessarily to do with the beginning of life or how it evolved into it’s modern state. I believe evolution happens, it’s been shown that it happens in drug resistant bacteria and fossils. It’s just that what I was speaking about wasn’t to do with evolution.
I find creation to be very inaccurate mainly because it cannot be proven, either way, creation (of the universe) or not, there are still lots of questions.
NON-CREATION
How was the universe made?
CREATION
Who made God? Everything has a beginning.
An Eternal cannot have a beginning and is not subject to the laws of causation(sp?). If it did it wouldn’t be Eternal. I’ve explained this so many times. Watch this video; I know it’s by VenomFangX but it helps clear up the concept of Eternal anyway:
I find that very hard to believe that “God Has been around forever” Nothing can be around forever. Even if he did live forever, why did he make all of this? Why did he make us? I find creation theories to be a lazy way of answering complex questions.
Something that created time is not going to need to bow to these laws of time, especially if it were before these laws.
How could something create time without time being before it? It does not make sense.
Well it might not have been “before” in a sense if there was no rigid rules to do with time like we have now.
Btw this isn’t a debate thread.
If there is no time, how could God think or do anything? And you are right, this is not.
Im a catholic christian, i am non-creationist like most british christians, and i find the version of faith we share seems most logical. I am inclusivist, so i believe that all religions share in a faith. I do not mind atheists as long as they dont act like twats or spread false rumours about religion
no offence but
ITS NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND
God is beyond time, he is Omnipotent, all powerful. God is not reliant on time to do things in, as people are. to us
we<time. We have to obey time.
but God>everything inc. time
he creatd time for this universe.
An omnipotent being cannot be created, as that would imply both a greater force than it and that time would affect it.
strong wrote:
no offence but
ITS NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND
God is beyond time, he is Omnipotent, all powerful. God is not reliant on time to do things in, as people are. to us
we<time. We have to obey time.
but God>everything inc. time
he creatd time for this universe.
An omnipotent being cannot be created, as that would imply both a greater force than it and that time would affect it.
I believe in the infnity you don’t have to go to church or anything we don’t even have a church you kind of just except that your life just might be pointless.
damit my compuer put .com. Christians believe that God is all powerful, and that he created everything. if he is all powerful he is not constained by time, and as it is beneath him he must have created it
strong wrote:
Dont assume all christians are creationist. Almost all British Christians believe in science too.com
So are you saying that you believe god started the big bang?
Yes. Most of the bible can be viewed as metaphor, the book of job, and noahs ark for example seen in this way, genesis tells us that god made everything innately good. Genesis used to be a poem, but it was lost in translation. Genesis was a way of telling ancient people about god in a way they could understand
strong wrote:
Dont assume all christians are creationist. Almost all British Christians believe in science too.com
So are you saying that you believe god started the big bang?
Yes. Most of the bible can be viewed as metaphor, the book of job, and noahs ark for example seen in this way, genesis tells us that god made everything innately good. Genesis used to be a poem, but it was lost in translation. Genesis was a way of telling ancient people about god in a way they could understand
I m a Pure Buddhism...The word i add pure i added cuz...there r many kinds of Buddhism like Taoists, Ma ha yana Buddhism...n some other forms...! Our type can call Htay ya wara Buddhisms...!(i m not telling those others Buddhism r not pure...!)
We believe in non-self disciplines.. which means...make less of being self n greeds...! N our beliefs...are based on Buddha which we consider not as a God...but the greatest philosopher!! We believe in reincarnation n karma(which we did good thing or bad thing will come back in some time or in some lives...).....!
strong wrote:
Dont assume all christians are creationist. Almost all British Christians believe in science too.com
So are you saying that you believe god started the big bang?
Yes. Most of the bible can be viewed as metaphor, the book of job, and noahs ark for example seen in this way, genesis tells us that god made everything innately good. Genesis used to be a poem, but it was lost in translation. Genesis was a way of telling ancient people about god in a way they could understand
