No the kid said “communists” specifically. Atheism has NOTHING to do with communism. AT ALL.
But the removal of the GOD part of our pledge was from a tight ass athiest father that was literally “scared” his daughter would believe in God if she sang it.
No the kid said “communists” specifically. Atheism has NOTHING to do with communism. AT ALL.
But the removal of the GOD part of our pledge was from a tight ass athiest father that was literally “scared” his daughter would believe in God if she sang it.
Indalecio wrote:
goes on a small rant today, he is a big time christian. We went over this worksheet about the Cold War and one of the true false questions was something about America putting Under God in the Pledge of Allegiance because of the whole atheistic Soviet Union thing.
Anyway, he says, “You know there are some groups of people who try and take that out of the pledge and our money?" and he was really serious as he said it, “They already took prayer out of schools." and he continues about how he would get fired if he would try to do that. So then he asks the class “Who do you think wants to get rid of God in the pledge?" and this kid answered “Communists” in which my history teacher said “Yeah, communists.", At this point I just gave a face palm at all this ridiculousness. I was tempted to call out “People who support the constitution!“ But I was lazy, and I didn’t feel like saying anything at 8 in the morning.
No, the paranoid athiest guy who found a way to say that the pledge weve had for many many generations was unconstitutional so it was changed but no one gave a shit and we still sing it the same way.
Indalecio wrote:
goes on a small rant today, he is a big time christian. We went over this worksheet about the Cold War and one of the true false questions was something about America putting Under God in the Pledge of Allegiance because of the whole atheistic Soviet Union thing.
Anyway, he says, “You know there are some groups of people who try and take that out of the pledge and our money?" and he was really serious as he said it, “They already took prayer out of schools." and he continues about how he would get fired if he would try to do that. So then he asks the class “Who do you think wants to get rid of God in the pledge?" and this kid answered “Communists” in which my history teacher said “Yeah, communists.", At this point I just gave a face palm at all this ridiculousness. I was tempted to call out “People who support the constitution!“ But I was lazy, and I didn’t feel like saying anything at 8 in the morning.
No, the paranoid athiest guy who found a way to say that the pledge weve had for many many generations was unconstitutional so it was changed but no one gave a shit and we still sing it the same way.
The Under God part has only been around since the Cold War....Which was after WW2...You act like we’ve had it since the start of the country.
Indalecio wrote:
goes on a small rant today, he is a big time christian. We went over this worksheet about the Cold War and one of the true false questions was something about America putting Under God in the Pledge of Allegiance because of the whole atheistic Soviet Union thing.
Anyway, he says, “You know there are some groups of people who try and take that out of the pledge and our money?" and he was really serious as he said it, “They already took prayer out of schools." and he continues about how he would get fired if he would try to do that. So then he asks the class “Who do you think wants to get rid of God in the pledge?" and this kid answered “Communists” in which my history teacher said “Yeah, communists.", At this point I just gave a face palm at all this ridiculousness. I was tempted to call out “People who support the constitution!“ But I was lazy, and I didn’t feel like saying anything at 8 in the morning.
No, the paranoid athiest guy who found a way to say that the pledge weve had for many many generations was unconstitutional so it was changed but no one gave a shit and we still sing it the same way.
The Under God part has only been around since the Cold War....Which was after WW2...You act like we’ve had it since the start of the country.
Its been there since it was made. And we still have it in there, no one gives a shit about the “official” song, just the real one.
Indalecio wrote:
goes on a small rant today, he is a big time christian. We went over this worksheet about the Cold War and one of the true false questions was something about America putting Under God in the Pledge of Allegiance because of the whole atheistic Soviet Union thing.
Anyway, he says, “You know there are some groups of people who try and take that out of the pledge and our money?" and he was really serious as he said it, “They already took prayer out of schools." and he continues about how he would get fired if he would try to do that. So then he asks the class “Who do you think wants to get rid of God in the pledge?" and this kid answered “Communists” in which my history teacher said “Yeah, communists.", At this point I just gave a face palm at all this ridiculousness. I was tempted to call out “People who support the constitution!“ But I was lazy, and I didn’t feel like saying anything at 8 in the morning.
No, the paranoid athiest guy who found a way to say that the pledge weve had for many many generations was unconstitutional so it was changed but no one gave a shit and we still sing it the same way.
The Under God part has only been around since the Cold War....Which was after WW2...You act like we’ve had it since the start of the country.
Its been there since it was made. And we still have it in there, no one gives a shit about the “official” song, just the real one.
Indalecio wrote:
goes on a small rant today, he is a big time christian. We went over this worksheet about the Cold War and one of the true false questions was something about America putting Under God in the Pledge of Allegiance because of the whole atheistic Soviet Union thing.
Anyway, he says, “You know there are some groups of people who try and take that out of the pledge and our money?" and he was really serious as he said it, “They already took prayer out of schools." and he continues about how he would get fired if he would try to do that. So then he asks the class “Who do you think wants to get rid of God in the pledge?" and this kid answered “Communists” in which my history teacher said “Yeah, communists.", At this point I just gave a face palm at all this ridiculousness. I was tempted to call out “People who support the constitution!“ But I was lazy, and I didn’t feel like saying anything at 8 in the morning.
No, the paranoid athiest guy who found a way to say that the pledge weve had for many many generations was unconstitutional so it was changed but no one gave a shit and we still sing it the same way.
The Under God part has only been around since the Cold War....Which was after WW2...You act like we’ve had it since the start of the country.
Its been there since it was made. And we still have it in there, no one gives a shit about the “official” song, just the real one.
It’s not a “song”. It’s The Pledge of Allegiance:
Addition of the words “under God”
The Knights of Columbus, the world’s largest Catholic fraternal service organization, in New York City felt that the pledge was incomplete without any reference to a deity.[4] Appealing to the authority of Abraham Lincoln, the Knights felt that the words “under God” which were from Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address were most appropriate to add to the Pledge.[citation needed] In New York City on April 30, 1951, the Board of Directors of the Knights of Columbus adopted a resolution to amend their recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance at the opening of each of the meetings of the 800 Fourth Degree Assemblies of the Knights of Columbus by addition of the words “under God” after the words “one nation." In the following two years, the idea spread throughout Knights of Columbus organizations nationwide. On August 21, 1952, the Supreme Council of the Knights of Columbus at its annual meeting adopted a resolution urging that the change be made universal and copies of this resolution were sent to the President, the Vice President (as Presiding Officer of the Senate) and the Speaker of the House of Representatives. The National Fraternal Congress meeting in Boston on September 24, 1952, adopted a similar resolution upon the recommendation of its President, Supreme Knight Luke E. Hart. Several State Fraternal Congresses acted likewise almost immediately thereafter. This campaign led to several official attempts to prompt Congress to adopt the Knights of Columbus’ policy for the entire nation. These attempts failed.
In 1952, Holger Christian Langmack wrote a letter to President Truman suggesting the inclusion of “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance. Mr. Langmack was a Danish Philosopher and Educator who came to America in 1911. He was one of the originators of the Prayer Breakfast, and a religious leader in Washington DC. President Truman responded to Mr.Langmack, and agreed to meet him along with several others to discuss the inclusion of “under God” and also “love” just before “Liberty and Justice”. This meeting took place in 1952, and the seed was planted for the inclusion of “under God”.[citation needed]
The Knights of Columbus tried repeatedly, but they were unsuccessful in their attempts to persuade the United States government to amend the pledge. Bills were introduced as early as 1953, when Representative Louis C. Rabaut of Michigan sponsored a resolution at the suggestion of a correspondent. It was a Presbyterian minister who made the difference in 1954 by preaching a sermon about Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address. The minister was George MacPherson Docherty, a native of Scotland who was called to succeed Peter Marshall as pastor of the New York Avenue Presbyterian Church near the White House, where, in 1863, the same year as the address, Lincoln attended and even rented a pew. After Lincoln’s death, the pew that he rented became something of a national monument. It became customary for later United States presidents to attend services at the church and sit in the Lincoln pew on the Sunday closest to Lincoln’s birthday (February 12) each year.
As Lincoln Sunday (February 7, 1954) approached, Rev. Docherty knew not only that President Dwight Eisenhower was to be in attendance, but that it was more than just an annual ritual for him. While raised a Jehovah’s Witness, Eisenhower had been baptized a Presbyterian just a year earlier. Docherty’s sermon focused on the Gettysburg Address, drawing its title from the address, “A New Birth of Freedom."
Docherty’s message began with a comparison of the United States to ancient Sparta. Docherty noted that a traveler to ancient Sparta was amazed by the fact that the Spartans’ national might was not to be found in their walls, their shields, or their weapons, but in their spirit. Likewise, said Docherty, the might of the United States should not be thought of as emanating from their newly developed atomic weapons, but in their spirit, the “American way of life”. In the remainder of the sermon Docherty sought to define as succinctly as possible the essence of the American spirit and way of life. To do so, Docherty appealed to those two words in Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address. According to Docherty, what has made the United States both unique and strong was her sense of being the nation that Lincoln described: a nation “under God." Docherty took the opportunity to tell a story of a conversation with his children about the Pledge of Allegiance. Docherty was troubled by the fact that it did not include any reference to the deity. Without such reference, Docherty insisted that the Pledge could apply to just about any nation. He felt that the pledge should reflect the American spirit and way of life as defined by Lincoln.
After the service concluded, Docherty had opportunity to converse with Eisenhower about the substance of the sermon. The President expressed his enthusiastic concurrence with Docherty’s view, and the very next day, Eisenhower had the wheels turning in Congress to incorporate Docherty’s suggestion into law. On February 8, 1954, Rep. Charles Oakman (R-Mich.), introduced a bill to that effect. On Lincoln’s birthday, four days later, Oakman made the following speech on the floor of the House:
Rev. Dr. George MacPherson Docherty (left) and President Eisenhower (second from left) on the morning of February 7, 1954 at the New York Avenue Presbyterian Church; the morning Eisenhower was convinced that the pledge needed to be amendedLast Sunday, the President of the United States and his family occupied the pew where Abraham Lincoln worshipped. The pastor, the Reverend George M. Docherty, suggested the change in our Pledge of Allegiance that I have offered [as a bill]. Dr. Docherty delivered a wise sermon. He said that as a native of Scotland come to these shores he could appreciate the pledge as something more than a hollow verse taught to children for memory. I would like to quote from his words. He said, 'there was something missing in the pledge, and that which was missing was the characteristic and definitive factor in the American way of life.' Mr. Speaker, I think Mr. Docherty hit the nail square on the head.
Senator Homer Ferguson, in his report to the Congress on March 10, 1954, said, “The introduction of this joint resolution was suggested to me by a sermon given recently by the Rev. George M. Docherty, of Washington, D.C., who is pastor of the church at which Lincoln worshipped." This time Congress concurred with the Oakman-Ferguson resolution, and Eisenhower opted to sign the bill into law on Flag Day (June 14, 1954). The fact that Eisenhower clearly had Docherty’s rationale in mind as he initiated and consummated this measure is apparent in a letter he wrote in August, 1954. Paraphrasing Docherty’s sermon, Eisenhower said
These words [“under God”] will remind Americans that despite our great physical strength we must remain humble. They will help us to keep constantly in our minds and hearts the spiritual and moral principles which alone give dignity to man, and upon which our way of life is founded.
Docherty’s sermon was published by Harper & Bros. in New York in 1958 and President Eisenhower took the opportunity to write to Dr. Docherty with gratitude for the opportunity to once again read the sermon.
Zucas wrote:
Oh I would have a field day with that haha.
I almost did but I was too lazy
lol Confused? How can you “have a field day” with something out of history? Have you had a “field day” with histroy’s tale of Ben Franklin and his kite? Or Kennedy’s famous inaugaration speech?
Zucas wrote:
Oh I would have a field day with that haha.
I almost did but I was too lazy
lol Confused? How can you “have a field day” with something out of history? Have you had a “field day” with histroy’s tale of Ben Franklin and his kite? Or Kennedy’s famous inaugaration speech?
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